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Is resetting adaptives the same as relearning?

4.2K views 10 replies 4 participants last post by  pikapp504  
#1 ·
I have an 05 Magnum R/T and the shifts seem to be a bit...well, meh. I have a Predator and I have the shift firmness increased, but it still isn't very firm. I'm not expecting 2nd or 3rd gear rips when it shifts, but I do expect a little firmness when at WOT. My question is: if I reset the adaptives using my Predator, do I need to do the whole relearn procedure or just drive it normally? Basically, I am unsure if resetting the adaptives via the Predator is a volatile or non-volatile reset. Just trying to get things a little firmer/crisper. I've had the car for a little over a year now, still love it to death (just under 79K miles) and just want to make sure I'm not going to have to do the whole relearn procedure (not many roads around here long enough and/or isolated enough (i.e. no traffic) to perform the entire relearn process in ~10 minutes). Thanks in advance!
 
#3 ·
So resetting the trans adaptives just resets the volatile memory and I won't have to go through the relearn procedure? Once reset, about how long does it take for the TCM to "adapt" to calm things down again?
 
#5 ·
I've read it and I'm still a bit confused. Is the "Reset Transmission Adaptives" that's available in the Predator the same thing that the StarScan does? And if not, is it safe to clear the adaptives using the Predator to get a more aggressive shift schedule? Basically, I don't want to have to do the "relearn" procedure that calls for driving slowly up to 5th gear, downshift to 4th, back up to 5th, etc etc, and I wanted to make sure that I won't have to do that if I reset the adaptives via the Predator.
 
#6 ·
The major learning adaptives applies to major trans work, rebuilt unit/new converter/etc.

A Predator reset just erases the short term shift and throttle adaptations. You may notice an immediate "kick" but tbh, the adaptive function is always "adapting", so the it only lasts so long.

Just do it, you'll be fine.
 
#7 ·
Sounds good! I'm going to the drag strip on Saturday (only an 1/8th...booooooo), but I want to make sure it's set to the firmest setting. Thanks again!
 
#8 · (Edited)
On RT's the programming is biased towards quickly adapting to best fuel mileage and driver / passenger comfort. This equates to amongst other things short shifting and long-duration shift events. Reseting the adaptives using the Predator simply places the drivability adaptives at midpoints of their ranges. If the vehicle is driven conservatively, the adaptives quickly change to augment this. If you drive it very aggressively, those same adaptives will respond by raising shift points in the rpm range and decreasing the shift event...but not as quickly as moving towards more pedestrian drivability values. Data is stored every 10min, so the TCM learns and adapts relatively quickly in either case.

The SRT algorythmns are less biased towards conservative drivability habits - the MOPAR TCM even less so.