[hemi_57]

Charger... 4 door grocery getter or cop car.

Me... I opt'd for the Charger R/T Scat Pack for a nunber of reasons. Basically it has everything I want from the factory.

 

[landoawd]

Has the Asians ever made any thing that is not a "AMERICAN KNOCKOFF"?

Literally everything for thousands of years before we stole this country for ourselves, but besides that...yeah, still plenty.

Would rather push my Chrysler, Ford or GM than buy Asian! BOO-YA!

All three, particularly the blue oval, offer that as an option.

 

[ForceFed4g63]

Has the Asians ever made any thing that is not a "AMERICAN KNOCKOFF"? They cannot innovate any thing and never have they just steal others peoples ideas and of course technology rather it be for Civilian use or Military. I never seen any thing made Better in "China" Than American. Would rather push my Chrysler, Ford or GM than buy Asian! BOO-YA!

Apparently "Asia" now means China.

 

[Vanquished]

Literally everything for thousands of years before we stole this country for ourselves, but besides that...yeah, still plenty.

Oh brother... :roll:

 

[hemi_57]

Apparently "Asia" now means China.

Honda turned the motorcycle industry on it ear. Not only that the F1 cars run a lot of Honda engines. Toyota kicks some US biut in NASCAR. Kia/Hyundai pushed the US auto industry in longer warranties.

Besides the US copies a lot Euro stuff.

Yup push your US cars made in Canada or Mexico. LMAO

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[IES99]

I really disagree. The challenger hellcat and demon got tons of press but the Charger (which is extremely unique because it's a sedan that does 200+ mph or in SRT format a sedan with 485hp for <$40,000) seems to have gotten no attention from the motoring shows or bloggers.

Because you are a relative "newby" (no disrespect meant). There was plenty of press about Charger in 2004, 2005, 2006. It was the new kid on the block (along with Magnum and 300c) .

Whippersnapper:Na_Na_Na_Na:

 

[Vanquished]

I guess. I was a fan of the Charger since it's return.

I think Dodge still gets a bad wrap. The interiors of the Charger before 2011 and Challenger all the way till 2015 we're nothing to write home about (like most American cars). Another thing I find interesting is that a read an auto blog say that interior space is cramped in the charger. I don't know about that, not many sedans I know of that I can stand up bent over with straight legs in the back seat. lol. Same goes for the Challenger.

 

[hemi_57]

I guess. I was a fan of the Charger since it's return.

I think Dodge still gets a bad wrap. The interiors of the Charger before 2011 and Challenger all the way till 2015 we're nothing to write home about (like most American cars). Another thing I find interesting is that a read an auto blog say that interior space is cramped in the charger. I don't know about that, not many sedans I know of that I can stand up bent over with straight legs in the back seat. lol. Same goes for the Challenger.

Compared to my Cadillac ATS I had the Charger is "roomy" and has a trunk that is usable. My Scat has features that I would have to be in the Premium level of the ATS line and some features would be in the ATS-V and costs about $30,000 less. For that kinda of money I will put up with a not so stellar dealership or parent company.

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[IES99]

I guess. I was a fan of the Charger since it's return.

I think Dodge still gets a bad wrap. The interiors of the Charger before 2011 and Challenger all the way till 2015 we're nothing to write home about (like most American cars). Another thing I find interesting is that a read an auto blog say that interior space is cramped in the charger. I don't know about that, not many sedans I know of that I can stand up bent over with straight legs in the back seat. lol. Same goes for the Challenger.

Roomy for sure. When my friends get the the back of the 300 (essentially same dimensions as a Charger) they say they feel like they are getting into a limo.

The writers who call a Charger cramped must drive a Suburban most of the time.

 

[Vanquished]

The writers who call a Charger cramped must drive a Suburban most of the time.

Minivan for sure.

 

[Scatram]

Well Now! They have manufactured cheap knock offs of American innovation for a few years we been around, after we TOOK the land we have. We never stole it,we right out took it! No one stopped us leaving or coming! Before us for thousands years the Asian have Stole innovation from Europe for thousands of years and fought their own by far more than most countries in the World! Their Cheap Knock offs from others innovations ,but not contributing to any thing to advance or prosper the world. They have been around longer than any civilization here to do so little to show for it! I would never say they produce any thing with more Quality than America.

Literally everything for thousands of years before we stole this country for ourselves, but besides that

All three, particularly the blue oval, offer that as an option.

 

[punisher69]

Gunpowder? Forging Techniques? Ramen?

They've contributed PLENTY!

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[03MopaRamman]

I did not think an LX can do 200 mph, stock (hellcat probably??) as the stinger on our adds up North say 270 kph which is right there with an SRT. The driveshaft and tire valves need to be engineered to be able to turn that fast along with tires it comes with. Interesting conversation Guys, my curiosity is how long it holds its MSRP value after the first years, not many cars out there do. Danny

 

[Vanquished]

The hellcat charger does 204mph, the Challenger does 199 and the srt charger does 186. The stinger does 168, which is probably right at where a charger RT would be if it were delimited, maybe a few mph slower.

 

[agoristmike]

Well Now! They have manufactured cheap knock offs of American innovation for a few years we been around, after we TOOK the land we have. We never stole it,we right out took it! No one stopped us leaving or coming! Before us for thousands years the Asian have Stole innovation from Europe for thousands of years and fought their own by far more than most countries in the World! Their Cheap Knock offs from others innovations ,but not contributing to any thing to advance or prosper the world. They have been around longer than any civilization here to do so little to show for it! I would never say they produce any thing with more Quality than America.

No one 'stopped us' because europeans intentionally spread smallpox and other horrifying diseases across the inhabitants, and killed anyone who resisted. But yeah, nobody 'stopped' us, cause you know, we killed them all.

Regarding contributions from asian countries to the rest of the world, you are kidding, right?

Let me help you out. This is JUST CHINA.

List of Chinese inventions - Wikipedia

Ever hear of silk?
Gunpowder? Alcohol? Rice? Chickens were first domesticated in southeastern asia....Literally thousands inventions and schools of thought and science and religion which underpin our societies that we all take for granted now.

 

[agoristmike]

Whoops, scrolled down a little further and saw that Cast Iron also appears to be on the list. What's your block made out of again? American flags? (or probably canadian, since most of our cars seem to come from up there).

 

[agoristmike]

Now that we've laid the side-discussion to rest.

I agree that the kia stinger seems to be overpriced/underpowered. I don't think there's a good chance of one ever appearing in front of my house (or any other import 'performance' vehicle for that matter), but I'd be down to test drive it.

As far as interior goes, I ripped all mine out anyways, so I guess it sucks? All I know is it weighs a lot. :modding:

 

[Scatram]

And what Car did they make out of cast iron?

Whoops, scrolled down a little further and saw that Cast Iron also appears to be on the list. What's your block made out of again? American flags? (or probably canadian, since most of our cars seem to come from up there).

 

[Scatram]

They are a Pirate and have been for thousands of years! Innovation is not Invention! (what Inventions they made were never Innovated.) Rice,Silk and cast iron is all still the same thousands of years latter until some one came along to innovate Cast Iron Etc. Most certainly not China. Since most all countries in Asia Originates from China the only innovation was the countries who Fled China.In the last 100 years Years China has not invented or innovated much of any thing. They most certainly have innovated in reverse which they do better than any!

No one 'stopped us' because europeans intentionally spread smallpox and other horrifying diseases across the inhabitants, and killed anyone who resisted. But yeah, nobody 'stopped' us, cause you know, we killed them all.

Regarding contributions from asian countries to the rest of the world, you are kidding, right?

Let me help you out. This is JUST CHINA.

List of Chinese inventions - Wikipedia

Ever hear of silk?
Gunpowder? Alcohol? Rice? Chickens were first domesticated in southeastern asia....Literally thousands inventions and schools of thought and science and religion which underpin our societies that we all take for granted now.

 

[landoawd]

Well Now! They have manufactured cheap knock offs of American innovation for a few years we been around, after we TOOK the land we have. We never stole it,we right out took it! No one stopped us leaving or coming! Before us for thousands years the Asian have Stole innovation from Europe for thousands of years and fought their own by far more than most countries in the World! Their Cheap Knock offs from others innovations ,but not contributing to any thing to advance or prosper the world. They have been around longer than any civilization here to do so little to show for it! I would never say they produce any thing with more Quality than America.

This is both sad AND funny. Aren't people of your vintage the same ones that complain that "we don't teach dat der good history no mo?"

The ignorance and blind-patriotism you display would have been astounding a few years ago; not so much any more.

Oh brother... :roll:

Feel free to elaborate on this well delivered point. Or; don't.