[getuclu]

Has anyone added the above intake? Looks like the filter becomes unaccessable unless you remove the tube. Is it too low and in danger of getting wet or what is under the pictures. I have emailed the folks at GSM and no response. I like the look, but don't want extra hassles.. Your thoughts and experiences please..

P.S. yes I have read the ongoing issues with the s/c so maybe they are too busy right now..

 

[GSM]

Try e mailing....

[email protected]

you will get a response right away

Scott

 

[Jaak]

I'm confused...

You could have answered his question here, which would have answered it for a number of other people that may have been wondering the same thing.

He said "I have emailed the folks at GSM and no response." and the fix for that is to email you at GSM?

Wow, I'm missing something here, right?

 

[Hemi31]

I'm confused...

You could have answered his question here, which would have answered it for a number of other people that may have been wondering the same thing.

He said "I have emailed the folks at GSM and no response." and the fix for that is to email you at GSM?

Wow, I'm missing something here, right?

Nah,I think we all get it Jaak!:roll:

 

[Nightshade]

P.S. yes I have read the ongoing issues with the s/c so maybe they are too busy right now..

Pretty sure that isn't the case. They have known about the issues with the S/C for a year. They haven't even admited there is a problem yet, what makes you think they will work on a solution to a problem they are pretending doesn't exist?

I suppose we can hope.. but I wouldn't hold your breath. Is funny that they will respond to this message on the forum but ignore other threads where their input is required even more.

 

[getuclu]

Emailed and awaiting resonse

Try e mailing....

[email protected]

you will get a response right away

Scott

Thanks Scott! I have emailed Ryan and look forward to a response and will share it with my fellow forum members..

 

[nonliteral]

Has anyone added the above intake? Looks like the filter becomes unaccessable unless you remove the tube. Is it too low and in danger of getting wet or what is under the pictures. I have emailed the folks at GSM and no response. I like the look, but don't want extra hassles.. Your thoughts and experiences please..

P.S. yes I have read the ongoing issues with the s/c so maybe they are too busy right now..

I installed it last week. The intake pipe runs to a fitting that goes through the stock air-intake hole that you find when you remove your stock airbox, and a (large) K&N filter attaches to the underneath side of this fitting, inside the bumper cover.

On my 300C, the stock air silencer was still in place, so I had to remove it first (something not mentioned in the description or instructions, and which did make the install quite a bit longer than the 45 minutes it's supposed to take).

Installing the filter (or servicing it) requires removing the left front wheel and tire, removing the inner fender liner fasteners (re-usable fasteners were included with the kit to replace the "one-time" stock fasteners), and peeling back the fender liner. It's a pain in the butt, but probably not more than a 10 or 15 minute job to service the thing once it's in.

Non-official, non-dyno results -- it looks nice (I got the chrome version of the pipe), sounds great, and seems to have a noticable effect on throttle response (that I know probably would never show up on a dyno).

Downsides -- the filter location makes installation and service a moderate pain in the ass. I'm also concerned about sucking in water, although I seldom if ever drive the car in the rain.

There was a thread over on 3CF regarding a little donut-shaped device AER sells to place on CAI tubes as a failsafe for the water issue -- if the filter ever sucks up water, the increased vacuum pressure causes a failsafe opening in the donut to open, sucking in (dry) air through a foam filter. This would seem like a great idea for use with a CAI like this, except they only make them for up to 3" intake pipes, and this one is (I believe) 3.5". I'd love to find something similar for use with the GSM CAI.

I should probably also note that this is my first GSM purchase; I ordered it during the group buy a few weeks ago. I received a tracking number within 24 hours, and the part a few days later. Everything was included, and instructions (with pictures) were good, with the exception of not accounting for having a stock air silencer in place.

- Chuck

 

[getuclu]

Downsides -- the filter location makes installation and service a moderate pain in the ass. I'm also concerned about sucking in water, although I seldom if ever drive the car in the rain.

There was a thread over on 3CF regarding a little donut-shaped device AER sells to place on CAI tubes as a failsafe for the water issue -- if the filter ever sucks up water, the increased vacuum pressure causes a failsafe opening in the donut to open, sucking in (dry) air through a foam filter. This would seem like a great idea for use with a CAI like this, except they only make them for up to 3" intake pipes, and this one is (I believe) 3.5". I'd love to find something similar for use with the GSM CAI.

I should probably also note that this is my first GSM purchase; I ordered it during the group buy a few weeks ago. I received a tracking number within 24 hours, and the part a few days later. Everything was included, and instructions (with pictures) were good, with the exception of not accounting for having a stock air silencer in place.

- Chuck

I live in Ohio so the rain could be a problem. I did see a sock that fits over the filter to prevent it from taking in water on the k&n site (I think). Anyone know about the effectiveness of this? Also, did you notice any unusual noises that some have reported using other cai's - where they put the air silencer back on?

 

[MattRobertson]

Can't you get at the filter by jacking the car up (or putting it on a lift), removing the lower plastic shroud and getting at the area thataway? Haven't looked directly at that spot.

We have a GSM intake on the way for testing at MFO5.

 

[Cam]

Can't you get at the filter by jacking the car up (or putting it on a lift), removing the lower plastic shroud and getting at the area thataway? quote]

Thats how I removed my silencer, I never had had the wheel well liner off.

 

[getuclu]

Response from GSM

Guys here is the response..Not bad turnaround but I would have liked to see the diagram or pics, so I will rely on you guys to let me and others know of any complications or issues.. Thanks Nonliteral for your feedback!

HI Brent.

The filter is located in front of the driver's side wheel right behind the fog light. It can be easily accessed. We have had no complaints about it's adaptation to water. As far as a clicking noise, I have heard nothing. Nor have any of my direct customers or any of the employees on their own cars. Silver vs chrome is up to the eye of the beholder. The one on the site is Silver. On the 5.7, you'll need to remove the black plastic air piece located behind the fog light in order to allow room for the filter. It's no longer used and is replaced by our unit.

Let me know if I can do anything else to help you. Thanks.

Ryan

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: intake for 5.7 charger r/t

Ryan,

Scott told me to email you so here goes.. I like the look of your intake, but have a few questions. Where does the filter go and how accessable is it? Is it susceptable to water if it is where I think it is. There are a number of complaints with unwanted clicking or some noise other than the proper growl with other intakes and people putting the air silencer back on? Also the silver versus the chrome. Do the pictures on your website reflect the silver? Could you email me the directions and any pictures of the filter area and what needs to be removed/refitted or whatever..Thank you!

Brent Gilmore (getuclu)

 

[MattRobertson]

Thats how I removed my silencer, I never had had the wheel well liner off.

Cool. Thats what I wanted to hear . Its been awhile since I crawled around down there.

 

[MattRobertson]

Brent,

I have to say also that I have never heard of any clicking on an aftermarket intake, nor have I ever heard of people putting their silencers back on once taken off. In fact the 2006 models come without them from the factory.

Could the clicking be coming from the tube rattling against the silencer hole walls? I'd think there would be some sort of liner to prevent that. I'll know when our test unit arrives from GSM. Either way that would be a simple thing to fix with a little vacuum line (slit the line lengthwise and line the edge of the hole with it).

Also I would not worry so much about water. Remember you have the undershroud down there which essentially seals the filter of from direct contact with water. To get water inside you'd have to drive thru some deep water... 2 feet before contact with the filter? Possible though unlikely.

 

[nonliteral]

I live in Ohio so the rain could be a problem. I did see a sock that fits over the filter to prevent it from taking in water on the k&n site (I think). Anyone know about the effectiveness of this? Also, did you notice any unusual noises that some have reported using other cai's - where they put the air silencer back on?

The sock sounds like a good idea, particularly if another protection measure doesn't show up.

I haven't noticed any unusual noises, just the growl -- at least so far. I'll pay a little extra attention and see if I hear anything...

- Chuck

 

[nonliteral]

Can't you get at the filter by jacking the car up (or putting it on a lift), removing the lower plastic shroud and getting at the area thataway? Haven't looked directly at that spot.

We have a GSM intake on the way for testing at MFO5.

Matt, that might be possible; I don't have a lift, so it's easier for me to do the wheel removal trick. The filter mounts immediately below the hole where the stock air intake goes, which is quite a ways up in there, and you also have to tighten a clamp at the top of the filter, so you'd have to be able to reach clear up in to get the job done from below; I'm not sure how easy it would be.

I'm looking forward to seeing the MFO5 results...

 

[nonliteral]

Brent,

I have to say also that I have never heard of any clicking on an aftermarket intake, nor have I ever heard of people putting their silencers back on once taken off. In fact the 2006 models come without them from the factory.

For whatever it's worth, I've got an '06 300C which did have the silencer on it, so they apparently weren't terribly consistent about which ones got it or not...

- Chuck

 

[MattRobertson]

Sorry guys... The 'sock' is actually called a "drycharger" and is not meant to keep water out. Is a pre-filter to keep out extra-fine dust. It would probably have some effect on a few droplets of water but if you drive into a flooded street nothing will save you. I have had one of those on (I think they should be required for all K&N's)
when I was using a Typhoon and it did a great job, but wasn't meant for water.

 

[MattRobertson]

For whatever it's worth, I've got an '06 300C which did have the silencer on it, so they apparently weren't terribly consistent about which ones got it or not...

As I understand it, the Chryslers kept the silencer and the Dodges didn't. Probably says something about the target markets for both marques.

 

[trsmagnum]

i have about 3,000 miles since install of gsm intake,looks great, no noises, it is my daily driver and have driven it during some very heavy rain and had no problems.

 

[getuclu]

Dry Charger - Water repelling

I knew I saw it someplace... The Drycharger on the K&N Typhoon has a drycharger that, "Drychargers are included in all Cold-Air intake systems. Provides added protection by repelling water from entering the intake tract."

You get to reading too much and it all blends together.. 2 feet of water would not be good, but a torrential downpour might be cause to have one of these things especially with "the plastic airpiece removed from behind the fog light" per GSM's email..