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I've been looking at trying to get a set of BR9 spec brakes for my 07RT while it's parked for the fall/ winter. If anyone has done this to their magnum Id greatly appreciate a parts list needed to get this done.
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#3 ·
It can get mixed up on the BR9 thing so I'll help a little.
When you search for parts use a 2015 Pursuit w/BR9 category . 2014 had a mixed run for the rears and it can bite you on parts.
Other than rotors, pads, and calipers you will need BR9 front dust shields and brake lines. Rear shields and lines can carry over.
On some year model front knuckles the caliper mount bolt hole needs to be enlarged. Its not a big machining process, just one step up, more like a cleaning out of a bore and can be done on car with a hand drill. I forgot the size because I didn't need to on mine. Read through this thread for details. Worth the read. Just scroll through skipping the redundant comments.

For the best results get PFC Rotors and Pads. For worst results use any Ceramic pad and Chinese rotors

Very much worth the trouble if you are keeping the car.
 
#4 ·
If this is the police package....

All that's needed are set rear rotors and the caliper brackets. The rear brake calipers mount to the bigger/slightly longer caliper brackets. (Pulls the caliper further away from the wheel center line).

Beware if your running 17" wheels/drag pak type setup, this will not clear the wheels. You'll need 18"+ wheels to clear these slightly bigger brakes. (Ask me how I know...lol).
 
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If this is the police package....

All that's needed are set rear rotors and the caliper brackets. The rear brake calipers mount to the bigger/slightly longer caliper brackets. (Pulls the caliper further away from the wheel center line).

Beware if your running 17" wheels/drag pak type setup, this will not clear the wheels. You'll need 18"+ wheels to clear these slightly bigger brakes. (Ask me how I know...lol).

BR9 is jut not the rear brakes. It's is front and rear brakes and many different components involved. 2007 most def did not have anything shared with BR9 setup. Even Pursuits. Those would have been BR8 at best with 13.5 front rotors. Not the BR9 14.5 Front rotors.
 
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Caliper bracket needed to clear the srt spec rear rotors. Your caliper remains. (Basically what this setup does is apply a bit more leverage on the rotors. Braking/clamping is the same.

Good luck finding them new ....looks to be discontinued.

I had this kit on my car for a while and it helped a little bit. You'll get more out of it if you swap the fronts to the brembo...or do a full brembo swap, is the ultimate way to go.

If your interested, I'd sell you the br9 brackets. I'm planning on going full brembo by next spring.

I'll even clean them up, and repaint them so they look like new in vht epoxy chassis black.

Let me know.
 
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I did leave out I had to go from 17" wheels to 20".

All that's needed are set rear rotors and the caliper brackets.
I have no idea what hes talking about here. I have not done an SRT car so maybe neither do I. But the BR9 has the same swept area the Brembo 4 piston setups do and is a significant upgrade from the BR5.
 
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I did leave out I had to go from 17" wheels to 20".


I have no idea what hes talking about here. I have not done an SRT car so maybe neither do I. But the BR9 has the same swept area the Brembo 4 piston setups do and is a significant upgrade from the BR5.
I put srt spec rear rotors on my 2005 rt car with the police package rear caliper brackets, and reused my original caliper. It all bolted up and worked like it should.
 
#10 ·
I did the BR9 swap on my '05 Magnum RT - details and parts are in the thread https://www.lxforums.com/threads/05...s/05-sxt-v6-rwd-time-for-brakes-anything-better-bolt-on.424512/?post_id=5230113

Search is a wonderful thing. :)

The Magnum brakes are the same as any similar year Charger, Challenger, or 300 with the same brake package (BR9, BR7, etc.).

If you have 20 inch wheels, the Brembos will be even better, especially if you step up to the 6 piston front brembo calipers. They are amazing, but definately not for the faint of wallet. Mopar is asking like $1200 for each of the front two-piece rotors for the 6 piston calipers. Worth it if you can afford it, but ouch. I'm not looking forward to the bill for the first brake job on my '23 Charger with the 6 piston Brembos...
 
#13 ·
Anyone who converts to 6 pistons on a daily driver has more money than brains. They are overkill on a street car. The testing shows a 2' difference in stopping from 60-0. That's not taking weight and rubber compounds into account either.

On a dedicated road race car, I'm sure there's a difference in how they handle the consistent heat. Absolute overkill on a daily driver or a Drag car.
 
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Anyone who converts to 6 pistons on a daily driver has more money than brains. They are overkill on a street car. The testing shows a 2' difference in stopping from 60-0. That's not taking weight and rubber compounds into account either.

On a dedicated road race car, I'm sure there's a difference in how they handle the consistent heat. Absolute overkill on a daily driver or a Drag car.
100% agreed in terms of the performance difference between the 4 and 6 piston Brembos - they are designed for a track driven car, not street driven and especially not for a car used mostly for drag racing. They are capable of braking performance beyond what you'll ever reasonably use on the street, unless you are driving in ways most of us should (hopefully!) agree you should not be doing on the street. 60-0 in a claimed 107 feet for my portly ~4300lb (or ~4500lb with me in it) Charger is pretty impressive.

Sure, 2' in a panic stop can be the difference between an expensive repair and just a pucker moment, but the price jump is quite steep on top of the 4 piston Brembo setup for a comparatively small improvement in braking distance for a case that for most folks will never matter. If you have the money for it, they look and work great. If your cashflow is on the tighter side, it's not worth spending your precious pennies on it.

In my case, they came stock on my Charger and I didn't even realize it until after I saw the car in person. They look amazing, and I'm not swapping down to the 4 pistons even if the cost of every brake job I do over the life of the car is going to hurt my wallet more than the brake job on my wife's Grand Cherokee. Like many other things about our cars, we pay money to get stuff on/in our cars because we like it that way, not because we strictly need it. Many people would say the 485hp 6.4L in my Charger is absolute overkill for a daily driver, and I'd have to agree with them despite the fact I'm not getting rid of it and that I want to drive it (or one of my other toys) every chance I get. :)

I've seen a few sources for aftermarket/non-Mopar 6 piston rotors (mostly they are one piece rotors but there are a few two piece rotors), but I have no idea how good they are, and if history is any guide, they will be inferior to the OEM rotors. I'm hoping the OEM rotors on my Charger will last for 2 or maybe even 3 pad changes before I need to change them out. This may be wishful thinking, only time and miles will tell.


That chart is nice but he has the BR9 rear caliper as a dual piston. I would like a full size copy of that.
For all of the info in that chart, one mistake isn't bad especially if AI was used to compile it. Any AI summaries should be "assumed wrong in some way until proven otherwise", at least so far. I still see way to many "confidently wrong" errors to trust it blindly yet, but it is handy for pulling together summaries and giving you links to read through.

Copy paste that into Word or whatever you use and you can format it as much as you want.
 
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@Mike Rowand I've got 4 pots on the Beast and 6's on the SRT 'Rango and I like the feel of the 4's over the 6's. The 6's don't feel nearly as bitey as the 4's to me.

I know, someone is going to say "the 'Rango weighs more than the Charger" they're not taking into account the weight i have added to the Charger. While there's still a decent weight difference, it's not enough to make the 6's feel spongy compared to the 4's. Lord help me when the boat is hooked up lol

To my foot (and my backside), for the cost of replacement parts, the 6's should stop it a LOT better than they do. I've already ordered Powerstop pads to see if they help. I'm not a fan at all of the stock set up.
 
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Interesting. I don't have a set of the 4 piston Brembos on anything in my stable to do a back to back comparison, just the RT brakes on my Challenger and BR9 brakes on the Magnum vs the 6 piston Brembos, and in that comparison, the 6 piston Brembos win by a mile on all counts.

I've been planning to swap the Magnum to Brembos at some point, since I already have a set of rear Brembo spindles and black calipers sitting in a box in the shed and I'm going to go to 20 inch wheels at some point in the never ending project stack. I was toying with 6 pistons on the front just for the looks. Now I need to drive a 4 piston equipped Charger and see how it feels vs mine... :)
 
#28 ·
I've been trying to sell a complete BR9 conversion, minus rotors and pads.
The police calipers are physically bigger than civilian - to put pads outside thicker rotors.
I've got the brackets, rebuilt and powder coated calipers, front dust plates new, lines.
Mopar was selling this kit, minus powder coated, for ~$700 years ago.
I want $600 picked up in Winsted CT 06098
Shipping cost would be ridiculous.

Good luck 👍
 
#32 ·
I've been trying to sell a complete BR9 conversion, minus rotors and pads.
The police calipers are physically bigger than civilian - to put pads outside thicker rotors.
I've got the brackets, rebuilt and powder coated calipers, front dust plates new, lines.
Mopar was selling this kit, minus powder coated, for ~$700 years ago.
I want $600 picked up in Winsted CT 06098
Shipping cost would be ridiculous.
Good luck 👍
Yes that was the Big Brake Kit, and for that money it cost $700.00 with Rotors. Parts for for BR9 were hard to find then. They seem to be more available now.
I had the pleasure knowing Chip Hudson formerly of Raybestos then Performance Friction Co. He was in on the ground floor developing the BR9 system.

Not only do they perform better than the BR5 or 8, if you run PFC pads and rotors you can rotate 3 sets of pads across one set of rotors, and a set of pads run a good number of mileage.
PFC Rotors are Hi Nickle / Mid Molly. The pads are their own design, nothing rebranded like most of the market material being from Akebono. There are some BR9 pad providers using Honda pads.
PFC rotors and pads are made in the USA and PFC also provides national race teams with brakes.

PFC Pads & Rotors
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MOPAR Big Brake Kit
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#34 ·
Copy That, I had a hard time finding that kit. I found the rears elswhere and it wasn't easy. That was in 2019. If interested, the BR9 thread on the other forum you would see the frustration in some of the posts at the time on scoring Calipers.
I just looked on Rockauto under 2015 Charger 5.7L and there are several front and rear calipers available compared to 2019 none, and when they hit they were only a couple at a time. The rears were the slowest to pop up.
Any BR9 you find now are just remans coated and rebranded. No matter though. Great brakes.

In the air for the swap, pre-supercharger.

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#35 ·
Nice 👌
I got my setup from a forum member that was scouting junkyard for wrecked police cars...getting everything at once as core to rebuild and coat. From a single car, I was confident things would assemble properly..
I never trusted Rockauto for optional calipers.
Mustang track pack option has Brembos, and I see them reman online - and just can't believe they scored all those calipers to rebuild. It's gotta be Chinese castings with cheap guts, I'd imagine 😳
Your car looks great 👍