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· LX Newbie
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I too have started the bitch process with Continental. At this point they have offered new Continentals for $46 plus install. The dealer has said it is not their responsibility to warranty the tires as it is Conti's problem. I phoned Chrysler customer assistance, received the $50 credit-thank you-and heard the same b.s. ..... Now the fun begins. Saskatchewan, like most places, has a consumer protection act, which overides the dealership and Chrysler script. The applicable points are:

48 Where a consumer product is sold by a retail seller, the following warranties
are deemed to be given by the retail seller to the consumer:
(d) that the product supplied under the contract is of acceptable quality,
except that this warranty is deemed not to be given:
(i) respecting defects specifically drawn to the consumer's attention
before the contract is made; or
(ii) where the consumer examines the product before the contract is
made, respecting defects that examination ought to have revealed;

(iii) that the product is free from any defect that renders it not of
acceptable quality and that would not be apparent on reasonable
examination of the sample;
(g) that the product and all its components are to be durable for a reasonable
period, having regard to all the relevant circumstances of the sale, including:
(i) the description and nature of the product;
(ii) the purchase price;
(iii) the express warranties of the retail seller or manufacturer; and
(iv) the necessary maintenance the product normally requires and the
manner in which it has been used;
(h) where the product normally requires repairs, that spare parts and repair
facilities will be reasonably available for a reasonable period after the date of
sale of the product.
1996, c.C-30.1, s.48.

In this instance, the retailer ( dealer) is responsible. The dealership certainly has the right to chase Conti, but not my problem. The product and all it's components must be durable for a reasonable period, I've got significant wear at 18,000 kms. I purchased my '05 Magnum R/T in May 2006. I believe the dealership and Chrysler were aware by this date that they had a problem with the tires. Also, under the act they had a responsibility to bring the issue to my attention if they were aware of the problem. The Conti rep stated that they have known about the early tread wear for a long time. I think it is safe to assume Chrysler did too. I've since spoken with the dealership and let them know that I want them to cover the difference between Conti's offer and my expense. I then informed them that if they won't do this, I will pursue them for the entire cost, as it is their responsibility. We'll see what happens.

What I may need, and I don't know if the info is out their, but is there any factual info of the number of us that have had early treadware problems.

The other thing I may need, and this is a significant request, but would any of the members be prepared to send an affidavit, particularly the Canadian members, stating their problems with these tires. Any help would be appreciated, and this may help others down the road if I am successfull.

Cheers
 

· I'm not speeding......I'm qualifying
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I must be one lucky S.O.B. I have 20K miles on my stock Contis and have had no problems. My AWD came equipped with the "4X4 Contact" tires and they've been fine. Wearing evenly on all four. PSI is 35 and rotate every 6K miles. Still probably about a year left on them!!! I think I'm the only happy Continental owner on the forum.
 

· Absent From Malaise
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I liked my continentals but I only owned them for 3 weeks. :)
 

· LX Padiwan
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I have rotated mine every 3K miles and they are down to the wearbars at a little less than 18K miles. This is completely unacceptable IMHO. The 4x4 Contacts on the AWD's are probably rated for an SUV and those people may be having better wear due to this.

I will have to replace them before fall/winter and I will be replacing them with the Khumo STX rated for SUV/SportTruck's in the 255/55-18 size. I am guessing the factory Contis were too small and not durable enough for this application.
 

· First AWD LX in the 12's N/A
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Guess I'm 50/50 in the Conti. camp

The original 4X4 Contacts that were on my AWD I had issues with, but Conti replaced them at 13,000km and the new set, which bear the same name but look like a completely different tire have worn great.
 

· Retired Xeroid
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My AWD RT has just over 17k (miles) on the Conti Contact (self sealing). About 30-40% of tread remaining. I'm not sure what I did RIGHT other than rotate every 6k and balance every 12k...maybe not spinning them?
 

· Go Virginia Tech Hokies!
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I think I got the most mileage from the regular Conti's - 26,000 mi. They were down to the bars though. If it had been very rainy, I would not have trusted them. Running Goodyears now.

In past discussions, the AWD folks with the 4X4 tires have gotten much better life than those of us with the regular Contis.

Hokie
 

· Longhair/XMarine
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Changed mine out at aprox 12k and couldn't believe the difference in feel. The Conti's were looking bad already, so I marked where they came from and baged emm up in the shop for possible action later.

Good luck
BillyD..
 

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Have 26k miles on the original Contis (unless they put new rubber on before we bought at 14.k miles - but I don't think so). And we have about 10k miles on the Heritage Edition now... both showing no premature wear as far as I can tell.

Based on the forum information, I won't replace them with Continental tires, rather opting for the Goodyears or something from Michelin if they every come out with something. But... I have no significant complaint with the ride or wear performance we've observed.
 

· Mr. White Chocolate P. Rock
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My AWD had the 4x4 contis on and they where worn out at 20,000 km. CAlled Conti and they offered free replacements, I said thanks but not for me and asked for a set of RETAIL winter tyres the TS790V. The guy said ok but I will have to pay C$50 ea for them, I said ok...

The retail contis are a much better tire than the OEM junk they sold to DCX.

Great idea about the consumer protection law, let us know how it goes...
 

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I leased an 2005 300C back in October of 2004. At around 16K miles I noticed that the front Conti's were cupping. I still had a decent amount of tread left on them it's just that every outside tread was wearing at an angle. I had rotated them 2X since I got it. The dealer said to rotate them and the cupping would go away. All it did was cup the rear tires I put on the front. I now had 4 cupping tires. After a lot of headaches, the dealer agreed to by two of the four Goodyears to replace the Conti's. Wow what a difference. The Goodyears were great, better grip, great in snow, an all around better tire.

I was shocked to find out when I was looking for my new 2006 300C that DCX is still using the Conti's. I have the self-sealing Conti's on the 06, have these tires had the same wear problems. From what I have learned since this first happened, you need to rotate the tires every 3K or so to keep the cupping from taking hold.

Also get into the dealer before 12K to take advantage of the warranty. I know I will be taking it in at 11K to see if there is even a trace of abnormal wear and if so have them replaced.

I would be happy to help out in any way in your case Jeepers.
 

· Retired Xeroid
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I just took the effort to actually measure mine with a tire depth gage.

At 17,500 miles I have 40% remaining. If the wear is linear I should get 29,000 to bald or about 27,000 to the wear bars. However I will probably replace them much sooner due to the fact that 90% of tire failures occur in the last 10% of life. I am expecting 25k unless the winter is rotten, then about 21,000!
 

· t walgamuth
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i have an o5 awd sxt 3.5. i just bought it about a month ago. new. i have about 2500 miles on it. i drive pretty easy generally but have run two autocrosses with it.

today i noticed that the front tires are sawtoothing. i have had this happen twice before. first time on my 72 bmw motorcycle, back in 76. front tire which had only braking on it. i also had it on my michelin mxvs which i used on my saab in the eighties on the rear tires. if i rotated them side to side every fifteen hundred and front to back every three thousand they would wear evenly.

so when i get a chance i will swap them side to side. on the front. the rear tires are fine. the problem is tread blocks that are too short front to back. although the awd pulls thru the fronts, the front brakes are so powerful that they distort the tread blocks when braking.

so when they wear out i will get something that has longer blocks front to back. preferably michelin.

tom w
 

· AK RT C-LEG DAVAF
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I must be one lucky S.O.B. I have 20K miles on my stock Contis and have had no problems. My AWD came equipped with the "4X4 Contact" tires and they've been fine. Wearing evenly on all four. PSI is 35 and rotate every 6K miles. Still probably about a year left on them!!! I think I'm the only happy Continental owner on the forum.
A salesman at the company I work at has +40,000 miles on his Conti's, but he will need new ones before winter. Lot's of highway miles and he has a 06 300C.
 

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Well spring has sprung, winter tires are off, and I got around to dealing with the Continental warranty claim. Continental credited me with the all but $46 per tire and Chrysler, through labourious bitching, picked up the rest. As an aside, I bought Hankook IceBears last winter from 1010tires, and both were great.
 
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