[Alcharger]

Spent yesterday afternoon with the RT on a dyno to test GAINS

from a new M M Ported Throttle Body.

We made two base line pulls with a best of 354 HP and 377 Torque. Down some from the last pull in November 363/384. My tires are about 1" larger in diameter and that's about all that has changed?

We installed the new Modern Muscle Throttle Body and made three more pulls with a best of 354/375.

Throttle response "seems" to be better. This is hard to measure driving around on the streets. MDS "seems" to stay engaged longer, again no way to measure. I will be taking an 800 mile trip in a couple of weeks and see if MPG is any better.

Will this improve 1/4 mile by 0.3 of a seconds, I'll be surprised. If I get 0.1 second faster then it's worth the mod and again I'll be surprised. Track test and tune will be in February. I'll report back.

At this time, if I had it to do over I would have saved my money and put it towards a stall converter.

Here are some links of the data and short clip of one of the runs.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/tkirwin/Dyno Proted TB and Motero Pics/KentAll.jpg

http://s255.photobucket.com/albums/...Motero Pics/?action=view&current=MVI_1351.flv

 

[1FST4DR]

Remember on thing bud.Dynos are for tuning.I have personally seen that T/B make decent power for the money.I have been to many of dynos and have seen the power very from dyno to dyno.Take
it to the track I think you will feel better..Good luck w/ it..

 

[Gucci300C]

what he said^^^^^^^^^

 

[Alcharger]

Remember on thing bud.Dynos are for tuning.I have personally seen that T/B make decent power for the money.I have been to many of dynos and have seen the power very from dyno to dyno.Take
it to the track I think you will feel better..Good luck w/ it..

I have seen good gains posted with the 6.1 but very few have posted on gains with the 5.7 modded with econo heads/sidewinder....

Since it we made (2) base line pulls, then put on the TB and made (3) more pulls I would have thought we may have seen some gains? Also, this is the same dyno we used in November? I agree dyno's are for tuning and this is not exact science, I would have thought making base line pulls, then adding the TB we may have seen some gains?

You are right, to the track we go!!!!

 

[1FST4DR]

Let me ask you this,Did you allow time for a cool down??

 

[HemiPowered5700]

I really don't put much faith in dyno numbers...its trrack times that I wanna see. You can put a car on a dyno for 20 straight days and get 20 different sets of numbers.

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[JBs_300c]

looks like you leaned out a little up top on some of the runs. some things i noticed in my testing. how clean is your air filter? if your not get much air through it the ported TB isnt relaly gonna help ya out any. could also be why your base numbers are down. alabama is a dirty place i live near decatur/huntsville. i had one for a while and sold it because i thought the same thing but after i took it off and mailed it i noticed what i was missing. i guess the car adjusted to it over time and i just didnt notice the big gain all at once like your guys that can use the predator to adjust fuel . anyway bro holla at me i plan on comin down to steel and running sometime in feb. if you still dont like it i'll buy it from you :racing:


EDIT* i just noticed your two baslines where the ones with the leaning out on the end. looks like you gained about 5-10 hp on the top end of your pulls @6k rpm.

 

[Alcharger]

Let me ask you this,Did you allow time for a cool down??

Yes we had the fan mod going and a blower on the front of the car. We took our time, 20 minuets or more between run. The car was on the dyno for 3 hours. Blake Walker, Walker Dyno worked Sunday just to dyno with no pressure to rush the process.

Both Blake Walker and Doug Stutter, BamaChips, were not surprised with the results.

I've wondered if I somehow messed up the install, but there seems to be nothing to it, remove CAI, (4) bolts and an electrical connector. The TB only goes on one way.

 

[1FST4DR]

I will say this.You have to admit the throttle response is nice,,

 

[1FST4DR]

Yes we had the fan mod going and a blower on the front of the car. We took our time, 20 minuets or more between run. The car was on the dyno for 3 hours. Blake Walker, Walker Dyno worked Sunday just to dyno with no pressure to rush the process.

Both Blake Walker and Doug Stutter, BamaChips, were not surprised with the results.

I've wondered if I somehow messed up the install, but there seems to be nothing to it, remove CAI, (4) bolts and an electrical connector. The TB only goes on one way.

Nahh Im sure you installed it correctly.Its a no brainer

 

[JBs_300c]

Nahh Im sure you installed it correctly.Its a no brainer

well now i feel bad, i over tightened a screw on mine :banghead: still doesnt leak though

 

[1FST4DR]

well now i feel bad, i over tightened a screw on mine :banghead: still doesnt leak though

lol Dont feel bad.there was a member here that broke a bolt off his 6.1 manifold the other day installing a ported T/b And hes a good wrench too..lol

 

[JBs_300c]

lol Dont feel bad.there was a member here that broke a bolt off his 6.1 manifold the other day installing a ported T/b And hes a good wrench too..lol

haha. yea i went and bought a tq wrench that works after that one. no more torque it till you think its gonna break around here :blam:

 

[Alcharger]

Thanks for studying the pulls AND noticing the gain at the end where the base pulls were leaning out! Yes my air filter could be cleaner, ANOTHER good sugestion.

So I guess I need to change the post title to NO GAINS until Forum studied the curves!!!

 

[InferAl]

Thanks for studying the pulls AND noticing the gain at the end where the base pulls were leaning out! Yes my air filter could be cleaner, ANOTHER good sugestion.

So I guess I need to change the post title to NO GAINS until Forum studied the curves!!!

Looks like they are getting fat not lean

 

[Narc300C]

I have that T/B, and yes, I thought I would get more HP out of it, but the throttle response is worth every penny. You can feel it!

 

[InferAl]

Don't think it mattered though your HP peaked way before that anyway

 

[Alcharger]

I've got to learn the difference between fat and lean.

Another Neebie question, if I'm shifting at 6200 RPM and it is making more power and torque at the end of the curve, will that improve ET?

Yes I like the throttle response. My goal was an easy bolt on mod knock .1 to .2 seconds off.

Next, a clean air filter and off to the track. This is as good of excuse to go to the track I've had since the heads and cam mods!

 

[JBs_300c]

looking at your graph you might be better off shifting at like 5700 or so. i dunno where that will put you in the next gear but you have a nice TQ curve and thats what really matters on these heavy beasts anyway

 

[Tyrant]

Thanks for the post, i recently did this install on just a boltons R/T .. throttle response is better and my 0-60 dropped by .15 seconds but i havent dynoed my car so i cant comment on the numbers..

Keep us posted on track times