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    Upgrading fuel system

    Return or no return system Is return really needed?

    looking for 800 or more to wheels when done

    300S has a small fuel line

    4XX stroker current eng is coming out

    Getting ID 1050X injectors

    Will get a Whipple Gen 5 3.0 when released

    Looking at water/meth inj.

    Will not run E85

    Which kit? They are spendy.
    13 Chrysler 300S, new build. 4XX stroker, cam motion 232/246 619/619 118 +4
    Whipple Gen 5 3.0 (when released)May/June? FORE dual pump return fuel system, Meth injection, ID 1050X inj. MMX 95mm TB SRT front

    AIT 18% OD pulley, 1 7/8 kooks long tubes w/hi-flow cats, 3" Magnaflow Cat-back, FTI 2800 stall, Trans by Hellraiser, Dings Racing valve body and tune, Getrag 3.73 aluminum rad. SRT fans. Brembo upgrade. Stage one MOPAR springs, XIX X39 22x9 +15 - 22x10.5 +22 with NITTO NT420V 265/35R22 - 295/30R22



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    HOLLEY DUAL 525 LPH PUMP MODULE SYSTEM-1050 LPH TOTAL

    says it'll handle 1200hp

    Holley 12-176 Holley Dual 525 LPH Pump Module System-1050 LPH Total

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    Not to dis Holley, but there's a lot of people running Fore systems, myself included. Dual hat return system, 3/8 lines, fore rails and FC3 controller.

    They work without question. I am well below the ceiling on my system, for now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by punisher69 View Post
    Not to dis Holley, but there's a lot of people running Fore systems, myself included. Dual hat return system, 3/8 lines, fore rails and FC3 controller.

    They work without question. I am well below the ceiling on my system, for now lol
    Just through the HOLLY out there, seem reasonably priced

    Factory fuel lines are pretty small on the 300.

    Was looking at the FORE system Little above my budget right now and not sure I'll need that much.

    TAPPED has a system using FORE parts also, less expensive, but still up there.

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    Fore return style is the safe/smart way to go .I have a Fore 2 pump system on my Scat . @800 wheel a deadhead will not suffice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coanan View Post
    Just through the HOLLY out there, seem reasonably priced

    Factory fuel lines are pretty small on the 300.

    Was looking at the FORE system Little above my budget right now and not sure I'll need that much.

    TAPPED has a system using FORE parts also, less expensive, but still up there.
    Had I actually slept and NOT gotten up at 3am, I had planned to ride up to Tapped today and talk to him about my tune. I may still, depends on how I feel later on today lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MXS67454 View Post
    Fore return style is the safe/smart way to go .I have a Fore 2 pump system on my Scat . @800 wheel a deadhead will not suffice.
    Lots of add on stuff to bring price up.

    What did you end up with and what would you change?

    List if possible. Thanks

    Just picked up new ID1050X inj and a new MMX 95mm throttle body(not a real 95mm).

    Price? Lets just say I saved 600.00 on the two.

    Some ones project that didn't go through to finish.

    New cam arrives Sat. 232/246 618/618 118 +4

    Rotating assy. end of month.

    Might be able to get the Gen 5 3.0 Whipple ordered middle to end of next month.
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    I can't figure out how to post pics of my invoice for the fuel system. if you're willing, PM your cell # to me and I will send the breakdown with part #'s

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    Quote Originally Posted by MXS67454 View Post
    I can't figure out how to post pics of my invoice for the fuel system. if you're willing, PM your cell # to me and I will send the breakdown with part #'s
    Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by MXS67454 View Post
    I can't figure out how to post pics of my invoice for the fuel system. if you're willing, PM your cell # to me and I will send the breakdown with part #'s

    I know it's a good system, but $2500.00 is a tough pill to swallow.

    Has to be a less expensive option to get similar results.

    Aren't Hellcats pushing 1000hp or more with their system with just pump upgrades? Can this system be adopted to non Hellcats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coanan View Post
    I know it's a good system, but $2500.00 is a tough pill to swallow.

    Has to be a less expensive option to get similar results.

    Aren't Hellcats pushing 1000hp or more with their system with just pump upgrades? Can this system be adopted to non Hellcats?
    Think of it as insurance against leaning out and money you don't have to spend later on when you want more power. I'm a huge fan of do it once, do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coanan View Post
    I know it's a good system, but $2500.00 is a tough pill to swallow.

    Has to be a less expensive option to get similar results.

    Aren't Hellcats pushing 1000hp or more with their system with just pump upgrades? Can this system be adopted to non Hellcats?
    Hellcats have larger diameter fuel lines/rails etc..thats why they can make 900+ on E85 with just a BAP and injectors.. i tried to buy the fuel system from the cat my short block came from but was told by Barth Tuning (big HC,RE,Demon shop ) it wouldn't work..not sure why..
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    $2500 for a 1000hp fuel set up?
    Damn that’s crazy. Run a Return and build your own system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DBL.DWN View Post
    $2500 for a 1000hp fuel set up?
    Damn that’s crazy. Run a Return and build your own system.


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    Was looking at that option and came up with about 1800.00 for return system.

    Using the dual 525 kit Holley sells. A pump on both sides of tank feeding.

    Aeromotive Extreme Flow EFI Fuel Pressure Regulator.

    Piecing the all the hoses and fittings together. Pretty easy

    Looks like Whipple has the rails included to make it work.

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