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#1 · (Edited)
I have been here since the start of this club so lets make sure all of you know that! This club started with a group of people that put alot out to make sure that it would be something great! From the start I made it clear that we had to have organization or the club would not make it. Before every meeting I would talk to mike so I would not cause problems. Mike made it clear this was his club but I force the issue that we needed to have leadership! I even suggested that the charter have him as the owner and pres. so that there would be no issue as to him ever losing control! And now after our last meeting a couple of months ago where there was alot of talked about things but nothing has moved ahead! I say this only because there are alot of strong guys in this club and I would hate to see it fail!!! But it has!!! So I say this as I said from the start if there is no leadership there is no way the club can move forward. As many of you know I have a national car show for LX's coming this year with a major Magazine! I did not take it to this club because of the lack of leadership! So with that said I will hang on here no matter how many people get mad as I feel that this club is something to fight for! But its on a clear road of death with the current leadership! FYI I emailed, texted and left a voice mail to mike who did not respond before making this post!!

I am here until it fails or dies why? Because I believe in the group of guys, you are all great people and this club could last until the end of time with leadership!!!
 
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#3 · (Edited)
I understand that it is winter time and everybody (including myself) have other things going on, but we should have a weekly posting from the members to stay updated and in touch. I know that both Claude and I have tried getting a post started and after a couple days it dies off. This post needs to be started and kept going by a monitor ( whom ever that may be) It is almost February and the weather will be getting nice soon, so lets get the ball rolling.
 
#6 ·
You know that I am in several clubs in the area all of which are LX's clubs. I am in the because all offer different things. By far what this club has is better the people are great! And also I can tell you that even though its cold they are meeting up once a month both of them and one does something every 2 weeks! Now I feel that the problem is leadership after our last meeting I left feeling that things were moving in a great direction! But as always it has fallen to the side. I work 60 hrs a week, have a 2 year old and so side work on the weekends. And my family comes first and me the wife always say to each other whats up with this club? My wife likes it far better then the other 2 because of the wifes and children. I will say it again I will stay with it until it fails. But I really wish that Mike would give some control to others for the better of the club so that it does not end. Because it would be a real shame if it does.
 
#4 ·
Growing pains..... Every club will go through it. Good Luck guys!
 
#5 ·
Gay
 
#11 ·
I agree but its not a matter of demanding more from people the people are there that want to do and give. It about a lack of leadership and us not wanting to force our own will because of friendships that we all have with each other. We are all friends and don't want to fight about a club! Its about mike understanding that he may not have the time to do what needs to be done for the club.
 
#16 ·
I am here until it fails or dies why? Because I believe in the group of guys, you are all great people and this club could last until the end of time with leadership!!![/quote]

:popcorn: Yeah, What he said..........
 
#18 ·
I haven't been around in awhile due to the fact that people get their balls busted for not making an event (support the troops). First of all , a club is a group of people with a common interest getting together to talk, enjoy , discuss our common interest and meet new people and hopefully gain new friendships. A club is not a JOB. We do this because we want to. Bitching about a leader or lack of a leader and direction and where this is going is annoying. Mike is a great guy and wants this club to have a good time. BUT he is not getting paid, this is not his JOB. WE have to keep this club going by interacting and creating things to do that we all want to get involved in. Now, I have met alot of GREAT people within this club. This club isn't a bunch of high school kids with nothing to do , no jobs , no wife and kids , no mortgages and bills, no CAR payments, ETC.. WE all have lives and have things alot more important then car clubs. That being said , we do enjoy doing things , getting together and all that comes with it BUT it doesn't happen as often as we like because we don't have a lot of FREE time.

Claude, I am not bitching about you, PLEASE understand that . You are a great guy and mean well. You want to have plenty of things for us to do and keep all of us involved and meet up and enjoy ourselves as often as possile. I commend you for your efforts. But complaining about our leader and where is everyone and why isn't anyone here and all that is not helping anyone enjoy this club. It pressures people to either do something and get involved or get out. Keyword , PRESSURE. A club is people getting together "on their own FREE will" , remember this is not a job. All we can do is keep finding things to do and try to make them on a date that most people can attend and keep trying to find more people with our common interest which will make events bigger and better because then we will have more people and more fun for all. In short, MORE people will create a better percentage of people with an availability to make an event (ex. 10 member and 50% show = 5 , 20 members and 50% show =10).

So in closing, Lets all try to get more involved freely and enjoy this club. We also need more members that will get involved and give us a better turn out at events and a more active board for us to enjoy. Lets create more positive threads and conversation which is enjoyable and will make us want to folow a thread/topic and visit the site more often which will create more involvement and activity. Hencetherefore, a bigger and stronger club.

Peace to all, :beerchug:

Joe
 
#20 ·
The Skinny

Joey, You are right in your statement sometimes typed words lack emotion and Claude has a lot of passion for the club so I know what he is trying to get across. I also know it because he and I and a few others are meeting monthly to keep a new group going called South East Pa Mopar. Its sad to see it but because of Claude's Passion for this Band of LX brothers he has been dismissed from this forum for Life! I hope you all can get to speak to him in person to get the true story around that situation.Its Un American to say the least if someone doesn't want to hear what someone else thinks about a vendor they have a delete button use it! Nuff said on that! Anyway hope we can all meet up soon this Sat we are going to make a big Hooters run over to Union NJ 40+ so there it is!Mark your calendar Wanna run with us we are meeting here http://www.srtv8.com/showthread.php?t=296 Hope some of you can attend !!
 
#21 ·
Its sad to see it but because of Claude's Passion for this Band of LX brothers he has been dismissed from this forum for Life! I hope you all can get to speak to him in person to get the true story around that situation.Its Un American to say the least if someone doesn't want to hear what someone else thinks about a vendor they have a delete button use it! Nuff said on that!
Complete garbage. He was dismissed from this forum, for a month, for creating not one, not two, but three accounts after threatening to do it, and having been warned not too. Claude went way over the line, plain and simple.

In the future, please get your facts straight before blasting away.
 
#22 ·
I have been here since the start of this club so lets make sure all of you know that! This club started with a group of people that put alot out to make sure that it would be something great! From the start I made it clear that we had to have organization or the club would not make it. Before every meeting I would talk to mike so I would not cause problems. Mike made it clear this was his club but I force the issue that we needed to have leadership! I even suggested that the charter have him as the owner and pres. so that there would be no issue as to him ever losing control! And now after our last meeting a couple of months ago where there was alot of talked about things but nothing has moved ahead! I say this only because there are alot of strong guys in this club and I would hate to see it fail!!! But it has!!! So I say this as I said from the start if there is no leadership there is no way the club can move forward. As many of you know I have a national car show for LX's coming this year with a major Magazine! I did not take it to this club because of the lack of leadership! So with that said I will hang on here no matter how many people get mad as I feel that this club is something to fight for! But its on a clear road of death with the current leadership! FYI I emailed, texted and left a voice mail to mike who did not respond before making this post!!

I am here until it fails or dies why? Because I believe in the group of guys, you are all great people and this club could last until the end of time with leadership!!!
Are we talking about Mike as in Me?
 
#24 · (Edited)
He was not talking about you Mike he did mean Bill you know all us white dudes look the same! He still calls me Chase now and again...
 
#26 ·
I feel the club meets my needs now. It is winter and I am sure we will get it going again come warmer weather. Actually I do not need more than the occational Meet where we can all get together and talk as friends, and to other fellow LX'rs. I get the feeling that some want more than that, I for one do not want to overcomplicate the experience. I do not want to feel obligated to make every event, or take on more that I feel comfortable with. The pressure I sometimes feel takes the fun out of it, and that is all I want out of this - FUN.

Looking forward to spring,.....
 
#29 ·
I HAVE to join this car club just for all the drama!!! I'm amused!!!
 
#33 ·
Is it just me, or can no one else understand a freakin' word he's spewing..? :doh:

Enough of this. What do ya say we just sit back, relax, and enjoy the rest of the month... :)
 
#34 ·
Is it just me, or can no one else understand a freakin' word he's spewing..? :doh:

Enough of this. What do ya say we just sit back, relax, and enjoy the rest of the month... :)
Gawd no doubt. If the guy is too friggin stupid to figure why he was banned, who did the banning and for how long the ban is, all the better for us. No more of those asinine rants. :blam:
 
#38 ·
Well, He *was* banned for a month... and then the instant the ban was lifted he went straight for his PM box and started in on two members of the staff.

When he started making threats, I ignored him the first time and banned him the second. This time it is for life.

 
#39 ·
Thx mr.laguna seca:rock:
 
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