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    Step by Step on How to replace the Navigation Joystick

    KB submission of this thread:

    https://www.lxforums.com/board/automotive-electronics-audio-and-video-/71415-step-step-step-step-guide-nav-joystick-replacement.html



    Ok.. first sorry the pictures are bad, all I had was my phone when I did this:

    order the Joystick here: http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....user_Wildcards

    Thank You Jaak for finding that...

    Tools needed:

    Desolder iron
    empty can of some kind..
    Solder iron
    Solder
    Jewelers Flat Blade Screw Driver
    Jewelers Phillips Head Screw Driver

    **basic soldering skills**

    Step 1.

    remove Nav unit from car. (if you struggle with this, then stops here DO NOT go further)

    Step 2.

    there are 4 screws on each side and 2 on the top and bottom of the face plate, remove these and pull off the Knobs (volume, tuning, Joystick)

    (thank you Jaak for providing these pictures)







    use small screw driver to top pop the tabs that hold the face plae on.




    Step 3.

    Remove the PCB board:
    4 screws hold it in place:



    remove the connector on the left side



    Step 4.

    place the unit on a mouse pad or some other type of anti-static pad.

    I personally use an empty tissue box, because I can set the unit on it with the knobs inside the opening to prevent damage to them.

    Step 5.

    Desolder the old joystick, make sure you EMPTY the desolder iron after each pass (empty into the can) or you could spit hot solder onto the pcb board and Bye Bye Navi Unit.

    this is a desoldering iron $25 at Radio Shack:







    Step 5A

    look at the difference in the 2 joysticks.. if the new one (shorter shaft) bugs you then you can do the following and swap out the shaft:


    A. dissemble the old joystick:

    use the flat blade screw driver to lift these four tabs:


    open joystick:


    remove the shaft:



    repeat the steps for the new joystick and swap the shafts.


    Step 6.

    Now resolder the new stick in place:




    If I recall there are 15 points to solder, the stick only goes in one way so you can't mess that up,, but BE CAREFUL not to bend the ends as you insert it, they break kinda easy.

    Step 7.

    finished:



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    YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.. DON'T BLAME ME IF YOU SCREW UP YOUR UNIT.
    Last edited by Mr. iNCREDIBLE; 01-21-2010 at 06:39 PM.
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    What happened to all the pictures? Would be nice to have them.

    Dave

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    sorry, i'll fix them, moved photobucket accounts awhile back

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    done

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    Joystick shown as obsolete??

    Mouser catalog now lists the part as obsolete. Any ideas on another source?

    Thanks!

    (edited) oops...found it on the beginning post....many available at present...

    (Edited again) see below: to order correct 8 way unit: I did a search for ALPS RKJXT1E12001 on but got RKJXT1F12001 as recommended factory replacement. Unfortunatelyl, that's the 4-way item.

    Here's the spec sheet and link for the correct (E) part #:

    http://www.mouser.com/catalog/636/1554.pdf (top item)

    More coming: http://www.onlinecomponents.com/buy/.../RKJXT1E12001/
    Last edited by Hemipower300; 01-17-2009 at 01:14 PM.

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    I have the replacment switch, but it is different, the original was an 8 step switch, the new one is only 4 step.
    I am working through the problem now. I have contacted ALPS that makes the switch to get some info.
    You can buy the new switch and take the parts out of the new one to fix it maybe.
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    I got mine off of ebay for $28 including shipping.

    There are a couple others that Mr. Incredible posted for ~$8 each but both had ~8 week lead time.

    Guys... These instructions worked great!!! I am so thrilled that I didn't have to scrap my navi just because the joystick died.

    I also installed the AG map with the in-motion hack. Don't have to hear my wife bitch when on a trip.

    Thanks all!!!

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    Facia remove.

    I have no problem building electronics. How ever how do you get the facia off the dash with out damaging anything. I can't see how to release the wires.
    Never mind. I found some threads that cover it.
    Last edited by carbonater55; 02-08-2009 at 08:18 PM. Reason: New info.

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    Is there any updates on replacement joysticks? Who's got the best price on these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daverdoo View Post
    I got mine off of ebay for $28 including shipping.

    There are a couple others that Mr. Incredible posted for ~$8 each but both had ~8 week lead time.

    Guys... These instructions worked great!!! I am so thrilled that I didn't have to scrap my navi just because the joystick died.

    I also installed the AG map with the in-motion hack. Don't have to hear my wife bitch when on a trip.

    Thanks all!!!
    Can you post the link of the one you got off ebay? I have tried looking for one but cant find it.

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    Looks like my joystick crapped the bed last week, any updates on which is the correct replacement to order? I need to get this fixed soon cause it is bugging the hell out of me!
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    Mine went yesterday, any updated info on this? I see this link Mr iNcredible gave is now an obsolete item.
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    This is a tough one... The orginal replacement I sourced from ALPS was identical except for the shaft length, but I believe one of the reasons the design has been obsoleted is due to the common failure point on these switches.

    But this gives me another idea... Hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaak View Post
    This is a tough one... The orginal replacement I sourced from ALPS was identical except for the shaft length, but I believe one of the reasons the design has been obsoleted is due to the common failure point on these switches.

    But this gives me another idea... Hmmm...
    You want one to play with? Mine died too.

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    We'll see Don... I have a query in and it depends on the answer I get...

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