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joelvan
05-18-2013, 09:40 PM
I am selling my power steering setup. pulley and relocation bracket setup. PM me and paypal $125. to [email protected]

Paid and Delivered

1st BATCH

1,CT-MSRT BL
2.reSRTrection OR
3.Meech no paint
4.cmn1
5.freefallin
6.Hemissary no paint
7.NextLevel BL
8.Curts300srt8 BL
9.MattRobertson BL
10.Northern Rider BL
11.Jontoad OR
12.Mike777
13.DSKREET
14.MAGFX



IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ONE PM ME.
I have em in stock and ready to ship!!!!


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Installation procedure ,

Remove Air filter Box and pipe.

Remove Fan Assembly


Remove the three pump mounting bolts


Remove stock pulley using proper tool. You can borrow the puller and install tool. @ Advanced auto parts or Autozone

Install the plate




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You will need to cutoff one of the original pump bolts.

Cut off bolt so it only protrudes 3/8" past the pump body.
Place it in the TOP LEFT bolt hole in the pump.


(Test fit the cut off bolt to make sure it doesn't bottom out )


((((Place all three pump mounting bolts through pump before installing the pulley.))))



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Install pulley about half the depth onto shaft . Tighten the three pump bolts Install new belt. Adjust the pulley depth to the correct alignment of the other pulleys.

Crank engine, Rev engine to redline several times. Inspect all pulleys to ensure the belt has not jumped out of any groves. ((( Readjust and repeat as necessary )))


Re install fans and air filter box

1FST4DR
05-18-2013, 09:43 PM
Any pics of what your speaking of?

darkstarsinner
05-18-2013, 09:43 PM
What exactly does this do? I'm assuming it'll allow you to relocate the ps but I'm nit exactly sure of the benefits.

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joelvan
05-18-2013, 09:47 PM
It is a relocation setup to where you can use a larger Pulley that will slow down the pump so not to overheat the system
I have been racing on this setup for almost 2 years with the stock cooler with no issues

darkstarsinner
05-18-2013, 10:02 PM
Hmmm interesting

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Ron380
05-18-2013, 10:05 PM
Shoot, if I still had the Charger I'd be interested. ;)

I had already replaced PS pump once!

Jontoad
05-19-2013, 01:45 AM
what kinda price are we talking? i would love to have it depending on price. i haven't had any issues since i put the aftermarket cooler on with my second PS pump, but if it is cheap insurance i might jump on it.

MAGFX
05-19-2013, 08:34 AM
I might be interested.

joelvan
05-19-2013, 09:26 AM
I would say around $125. For the bracket , bolts and the pulley .

funkpolice
05-19-2013, 01:22 PM
can you post a picture of the setup installed?

bill

Hemissary
05-19-2013, 01:50 PM
I'm interested and will take a system...

reSRTrection
05-19-2013, 01:53 PM
shoot, iam in. if its only 125 bucks hahaha. my cheap [email protected]@ is down.

mike777
05-19-2013, 02:11 PM
I'm intersted as well.

joelvan
05-19-2013, 03:59 PM
I will need to get enough orders to warrant buying a sheet of 3/8 steel. I figure around 10. The prototype is the one on my racecar is not very pretty. I made it out of a piece of rusty scrap I found laying around the shop.

max3099
05-19-2013, 06:33 PM
I'd be in for a set up. I am happy with the radiator I got from you awhile back.

joelvan
05-19-2013, 07:29 PM
Whoever wants em PM me your shipping address and Paypal $125. to [email protected] should start shipping them in about 2 weeks.

Meech
05-19-2013, 07:53 PM
I will need to get enough orders to warrant buying a sheet of 1/4 steel. I figure around 10. The prototype is the one on my racecar is not very pretty. I made it out of a piece of rusty scrap I found laying around the shop.

Well, Joel, You know from our numerous conversations, I'm hooked on road racing so I'll kick in a little extra and have mine engraved "Meech's Track Mistress" and powder coated Candy Tangerine, um no, Hemi Orange.

Meech

PS- Geez, if you keep making good ****, I won't have room in my sig for it!

joelvan
05-19-2013, 08:07 PM
Will throw in a Hemi Orange paint job. or black for you 5.7 guys

Ron380
05-19-2013, 08:30 PM
Meech, yours needs to be SubLime! ;)

Meech
05-19-2013, 11:18 PM
Meech, yours needs to be SubLime! ;)


Ron, under the hood she's a hemi, an y'all know that's orange!

Bump for more takers!! How many do we have so far Joel??

DSKREET
05-19-2013, 11:33 PM
Omg!!! Yes!!!!! :)

MAGFX
05-19-2013, 11:52 PM
What is the diameter of the pulley? Is it located differently than stock?

I ask, since I have a big boy fender pull intake, near my OEM pulley.

reSRTrection
05-20-2013, 12:10 AM
should make a listing of names in the first post with who is down. as well if your still makin the radiators id be down for one of those sometime in the near future as well. :) Cheers :beerchug:

joelvan
05-20-2013, 12:19 AM
I will list names as I get the paypal. I still sell the radiators $500 shipped to the lower 48

Hemissary
05-20-2013, 01:37 AM
x2...need pics of some sort with some specs would be nice...


What is the diameter of the pulley? Is it located differently than stock?

I ask, since I have a big boy fender pull intake, near my OEM pulley.

joelvan
05-20-2013, 07:16 AM
I don't have a photo. It is made from 3/8 plate and relocates the pump about 3/4" just enough to use a pulley that is about 15% larger. I use the largest pulley that can be modified to work with our application . I used a under drive dampener before. I found out the hard way three times that will cause crank failure with stroker motors. I went to a 17% over drive ATI and almost immediately blew the PS pump. I have been using this setup for 2 years 40 to 50 min sprint races. with no issues.

Meech
05-20-2013, 07:46 AM
I don't have a photo. It is made from 1/4 plate and relocates the pump about 1/2 in just enough to use a pulley that is about 15% larger. I use the largest pulley that can be modified to work with our application . I used a under drive dampener before. I found out the hard way three times that will cause crank failure with stroker motors. I went to a 17% over drive ATI and almost immediately blew the PS pump. I have been using this setup for 2 years 40 to 50 min sprint races. with no issues.

Joel
A few questions.
1) What is the pulley made of?
2) Do we need to change the belt size?

Meech

CT-MSRT
05-20-2013, 08:36 AM
I'm game for one.

joelvan
05-20-2013, 08:58 AM
The pulley is made of the same composite as the OEM pulley. You will need to change belt length. As soon as I start producing them. I will list the size needed. I did a AC compressor delete on mine. so one will have to be installed on another car to get the part #s

reSRTrection
05-20-2013, 02:09 PM
Money sent. thanks man!

Hemissary
05-20-2013, 07:26 PM
Trying not to be a pest Joel, is that a 15% increase in actual pulley diameter?

joelvan
05-20-2013, 08:06 PM
Dang it Simon,
I'm not an engineer. It is the biggest pulley that I could find that had the right offset that I could machine to work. It looks about 15% bigger. I will get you an exact diameter for you tomorrow and you can do the math .

Meech
05-21-2013, 07:19 AM
Dang it Simon,
I'm not an engineer. It is the biggest pulley that I could find that had the right offset that I could machine to work. It looks about 15% bigger. I will get you an exact diameter for you tomorrow and you can do the math .

Throws you a large micrometer!

Adanac Charger
05-21-2013, 08:15 AM
Subscribed

joelvan
05-21-2013, 05:23 PM
OK Simon, here ya go. the stock pulley is 4.3/4" dia. and the replacement is 6"dia. using my left handed Dutch counting should be around 21% reduction in RPM

cmn1
05-21-2013, 06:08 PM
So you will let us know what the new belt size is with a 17% overdrive pulley? I assume LX pumps are in the same location as WK pumps. My last track day I made it around twice before the pump took a crap.

joelvan
05-21-2013, 06:32 PM
I think it in the same location but it is a different part # than the LX so Im not for sure .
17% OD dampener will kill a pump really quick .Mine blew on the first hot lap at Charlotte on the NASCAR #3 turn @140 mph it oiled the rear tires and the windshield I damn near put it in the wall.

cmn1
05-21-2013, 06:38 PM
I think it in the same location but it is a different part # than the LX so Im not for sure .
17% OD dampener will kill a pump really quick .Mine blew on the first hot lap at Charlotte on the NASCAR #3 turn @140 mph it oiled the rear tires and the windshield I damn near put it in the wall.

I can take a picture of the WK one. I have a spare.

joelvan
05-21-2013, 06:49 PM
If it bolts on the driver side head with 3 bolts I am sure the bracket will work. As long as the pulley offset and shaft size are the same. it should all work I may need you to get the shaft dia. measured go ahead and send me a photo to [email protected]

cmn1
05-21-2013, 07:03 PM
If it bolts on the driver side head with 3 bolts I am sure the bracket will work. As long as the pulley offset and shaft size are the same. it should all work I may need you to get the shaft dia. measured go ahead and send me a photo to [email protected]

Sent you a few pics.

joelvan
05-21-2013, 07:44 PM
It uses the same OEM pulley so It should work fine.

Northern Rider
05-21-2013, 08:16 PM
Subscribed . . .

freefallin
05-21-2013, 09:19 PM
by using this chart: ATI Super Dampers for Chrysler, Dodge and Mopar Engines - including the new HEMI! (http://www.atiracing.com/products/dampers/charts/damchrysler.htm) and joel's measurements (4.75" oem to 6." new) and this pulley size calculator: RPM and Pulley Calculator (http://www.temecularodrun.com/ref/rpm_calc.asp) you can figure out how fast your pulleys will be turning at what rpm's,

joelvan
05-22-2013, 08:54 AM
OK guys were halfway there at 5 .

joelvan
05-22-2013, 09:44 PM
6 down 4 more to go.

joelvan
05-24-2013, 08:51 AM
going to pickup the last 6 pulleys. Go to the metal shop and get the plates. Then off to the machine shop and done for the day.

joelvan
05-24-2013, 05:34 PM
All parts are at the machine shop . They should be ready to ship Thursday. I still need 4 more buyers

funkpolice
05-25-2013, 12:41 AM
do you think it would make daily driving a problem? I blew up a pump once before, so I like this idea, but I need to be able to maneuver in parking lots.

bill

reSRTrection
05-25-2013, 02:46 AM
highly doubt it^ prolly wont notice much of a difference. correct me if iam wrong but i dont see it being an issue

NextLevel
05-25-2013, 09:19 AM
Count me in! Just saving my spot, I'll PayPal in a few minutes. What is the braket made of? If it's raw steel will it be coated to prevent rust?

White Ops R/T
05-25-2013, 09:39 AM
Unless he was joking, I thought he said PC'd Hemi orange or black.

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joelvan
05-25-2013, 10:41 AM
They will be painted not powder coated .

NextLevel
05-25-2013, 11:55 AM
Just sent payment and PM. I would like mine Black please!

Hemissary
05-25-2013, 01:30 PM
Leave mine raw (no paint) please...

joelvan
05-25-2013, 02:00 PM
I can idle and turn around in the race paddock with 305 slicks with no issues.

do you think it would make daily driving a problem? I blew up a pump once before, so I like this idea, but I need to be able to maneuver in parking lots.

bill

joelvan
05-25-2013, 05:03 PM
Still need 3 more takers to sell out this order.

White Ops R/T
05-26-2013, 11:14 PM
Would this work on the Gen II's as well?

Meech
05-26-2013, 11:34 PM
Still need 3 more takers to sell out this order.

BUmp for three more!

reSRTrection
05-27-2013, 12:01 AM
Would this work on the Gen II's as well?

Bud you dont have a PS pump. your electronic assist steering. so no.

White Ops R/T
05-27-2013, 12:05 AM
Well, there you go - just saved me $125 :p

Curts300srt8
05-28-2013, 02:54 PM
I am in... Payment to come shortly and I would like mine black please.

joelvan
05-28-2013, 05:34 PM
8 down 2 more to go.

MattRobertson
05-28-2013, 05:57 PM
Holy crap just saw this thread. Joel with my cooler in place I have never lost a pump. With that said, if you agree that with my setup I am improving the longevity of the pump and/or its safety margin under stress then I am in.

joelvan
05-28-2013, 06:03 PM
It will slow down your pump 21% . I never blew a pump until I used an 17% over drive dampener then it blew almost immediately. I know that the coolers help . IMO anyone that does trackdays need to lower the RPM of the pump as well.

MattRobertson
05-28-2013, 06:13 PM
OK I'm in. Paypal on the way

joelvan
05-28-2013, 06:27 PM
Ok who's gonna Get the last one. Just kidding. I got enough plates cut out to make a few more if needed.

Northern Rider
05-28-2013, 07:19 PM
I'll take one, Joel - black. Money sent. :)

joelvan
05-28-2013, 07:40 PM
That takes care of the first 10. I can order more Pulleys to make up 5 more sets .It will be next week before the last 5 can be machined .

JL-KA
05-28-2013, 08:05 PM
Is there any increase in steering effort? Wouldn't mind if there was, actually it would be a welcomed change.

Jontoad
05-28-2013, 09:03 PM
i am for sure in for it. there is no way i can't get this. lol. let me see if i can set aside some cash.

only thing holding me back for the moment is my mod money is kinda tied up this week. i'm trying to buy a 6.1L manifold for the Chicago guys so we can powder coat it, change it, and pass our uncoated one on to the next guy so we don't have down time on our cars.

joelvan
05-30-2013, 10:48 AM
Finally here is a photo of a test fit to give you an idea of what it will look like .


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Jontoad
05-30-2013, 11:14 AM
Payment sent for the kit for Jonathan Horyn. orange painted for me please.

Joel because i have a county address sometimes they give you some flack when you try to ship to me. just tell them to send it and it is the right address. stuff always gets here but for some reason their computers don't like the address.

joelvan
05-30-2013, 05:33 PM
Ok guys, I will be painting the plates tomorrow. If you haven't specified black or orange I need to know.

reSRTrection
05-31-2013, 05:41 AM
Pretty sure I mentioned orange in the PayPal. But just in case. I'll take it in orange. Thanks!!

MattRobertson
05-31-2013, 11:46 AM
Black for me, please!

CT-MSRT
05-31-2013, 12:34 PM
black please.

I even ate a pump running a huge PS cooler. High rpm's combined with some opposite lock when messing around at Monticello claimed one. I had PS fluid running up my windshield from the pump spray (small cap issue at the time, but pump was still bleeding out the seal). It may not have been the best way to go fast, but a full drift with slicks and an open dif at the time left a wondrous smoke show on a couple corners at the end of the day.

joelvan
05-31-2013, 03:31 PM
At this point if you haven't specified you get Black.I am putting them in the mail today.

reSRTrection
05-31-2013, 03:37 PM
saaaawwwweeeeeeeetttttttt :modding:

joelvan
05-31-2013, 05:47 PM
I didn't make it to the Post office in time. Missed it by 10 min. I'll get em in the mail in the AM.

joelvan
05-31-2013, 06:59 PM
Installation procedure ,

Remove Air filter Box and pipe.

Remove Fan Assembly


Remove the three pump mounting bolts


Remove stock pulley using proper tool. You can borrow the puller and install tool. @ Advanced auto parts or Autozone

Install the plate




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You will need to cutoff one of the original pump bolts.

Cut off bolt so it only protrudes 3/8" past the pump body.
Place it in the TOP LEFT bolt hole in the pump.


(Test fit the cut off bolt to make sure it doesn't bottom out )


((((Place all three pump mounting bolts through pump before installing the pulley.))))



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Install pulley about half the depth onto shaft . Tighten the three pump bolts Install new belt. Adjust the pulley depth to the correct alignment of the other pulleys.

Crank engine, Rev engine to redline several times. Inspect all pulleys to ensure the belt has not jumped out of any groves. ((( Readjust and repeat as necessary )))


Re install fans and air filter box

joelvan
06-01-2013, 09:02 AM
I mailed all but one this morning. Simon i'll get yours out as soon as I find another UPS store. The one in my town has gone out of business.

Curts300srt8
06-01-2013, 10:43 AM
Did you ever say what size belt is going to be needed to run the larger pulley?

joelvan
06-01-2013, 11:00 AM
I do not have any belt sizes. On my racecar I have deleted my AC compressor which totally changes the length. I would start with one about 2 to 3 inches longer than the current one you are using. go from there. whoever is the first one to get a belt that fits correctly post the length difference of their stock belt. The difference in length will be same for everyone.

Curts300srt8
06-01-2013, 11:03 AM
Ok thanks. That's what I thought anways but figured I'd ask just in case. Do you have tracking numbers for the units you shipped?

joelvan
06-01-2013, 11:08 AM
They are being shipped US postal service. I didn't get any tracking #s

Curts300srt8
06-01-2013, 11:11 AM
Got it. Thanks bro

reSRTrection
06-01-2013, 11:34 AM
if i was home i would get a string or a length of rope and check it out on the lenght so no one has to guess. just an idea for people so they dont have to keep buying belts to fine the right one :)

Hemissary
06-01-2013, 12:17 PM
I mailed all but one this morning. Simon i'll get yours out as soon as I find another UPS store. The one in my town has gone out of business.
Just use USPS! UPS will charge a premium on my end for the privilege!! No tracking required, in fact put the value at $20.00 :^)

Curts300srt8
06-01-2013, 12:21 PM
if i was home i would get a string or a length of rope and check it out on the lenght so no one has to guess. just an idea for people so they dont have to keep buying belts to fine the right one :)

Face palm... Good idea Bryce

joelvan
06-02-2013, 11:00 AM
I still have 3 kits left. Boxed up and ready to ship.

cmn1
06-03-2013, 04:42 PM
Mine arrived today. Going to be awhile till mine goes on, my Jeep is at Stage 6. If anyone is running a 17% od crank and figures out the belt size could you please post in here. Thanks.

ghostRT
06-03-2013, 07:33 PM
will we be able to get these at a later date .... i need this but mod money is tied up on my getrag swap

joelvan
06-03-2013, 07:43 PM
I have 3 left . Im not planning on making any more because I get charged a 1 hr minimum at the machine shop and at the metal shop so need to do at least 10 at a time. to come out to the good. If you pay pal me $25 I will put your name on one and hold it for 30 days.

freefallin
06-03-2013, 08:22 PM
thanks got mine today

joelvan
06-03-2013, 08:26 PM
thanks got mine today


Your Radiator should have shipped today.

NextLevel
06-03-2013, 11:26 PM
Got mine today as well. Great quality part! I was expecting some homemade looking piece, this looks very professional and factory looking. This probably doesn't matter to everyone, but I figured there are probably at least couple others that care about the little details. Thanks Joelvan!

mike777
06-04-2013, 07:39 AM
PMed and sent full $125 via Paypal this morning!

joelvan
06-04-2013, 08:46 AM
Mike,I got ya down.

ONLY 2 LEFT GET EM WHILE THERE HOT!!!!!



PMed and sent full $125 via Paypal this morning!

mike777
06-04-2013, 09:11 AM
Thanks!


Mike,I got ya down.

ONLY 2 LEFT GET EM WHILE THERE HOT!!!!!

DSKREET
06-04-2013, 03:33 PM
PM'd and payment sent

reSRTrection
06-04-2013, 03:49 PM
bout time!!! would think after all you've been threw you'd a been first in line!!! ok well i blew one of em... but still!!!!

DSKREET
06-04-2013, 04:02 PM
bout time!!! would think after all you've been threw you'd a been first in line!!! ok well i blew one of em... but still!!!!
LMFAO!!!! I've blown one, You've blown........ In the same Car:P

joelvan
06-04-2013, 05:34 PM
Thanks guys, I'm down to the last one. buy it. Or you can wait until I get up a list of 10 more buyers to make more. Who knows how long that might take.

Meech
06-04-2013, 07:10 PM
I got mine on Monday, thanks Joel!!


Meech

MattRobertson
06-05-2013, 01:02 PM
Got mine yesterday. Nicely done piece. Thanks Joel! Anyone figure out the belt length?

joelvan
06-05-2013, 06:17 PM
MAGFX gets the last one.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ONE PM ME.
WHEN I GET 10 PEOPLE WANTING A SET. I WILL HAVE ANOTHER BATCH MADE.....

joelvan
06-06-2013, 06:28 PM
MAGFX yours went into the mail today.

Northern Rider
06-13-2013, 05:09 PM
Got mine yesterday. Nicely done piece. Thanks Joel! Anyone figure out the belt length?

X2! Anyone have a belt spec yet?

Jontoad
06-14-2013, 02:33 AM
X2! Anyone have a belt spec yet?

well doing the math...

factory 6.1L belt is 81.5

factory 5.7L belt is 82.5

4.75 x 3.14 = 14.915 /2 = 7.4575

6 x 3.14 = 18.84 /2 = 9.42

9.42 - 7.4575 = 1.9625 or so more belt wrapping around the 6 inch pulley than the 4.5. ballpark the new belts would somewhat near a

83.4625 for 6.1L and 84.4625 for 5.7L

if no one else gets theirs on to confirm by the next time i have a day off to do it i will probably just pick up an 83.5in belt to try and install it on my 6.1L.

funkpolice
06-14-2013, 06:55 AM
the belt doesn't wrap 180 degrees around the PS pulley, also the center line of the pulley is moved, so I don't know if those calculations are going to work, but you have to start somewhere. I would guess the 83.5 is going to be a winner.

bill

joelvan
06-14-2013, 08:32 AM
chukraboy, I put you on the list for the 2nd batch.

Guys to help out the ones that didn't get in on the first go round. Spread the word of this mod to people who might need this. Where the wait wont be too long. I need 10 people to make get up enough for a build order.

Jontoad
06-14-2013, 08:41 AM
the belt doesn't wrap 180 degrees around the PS pulley, also the center line of the pulley is moved, so I don't know if those calculations are going to work, but you have to start somewhere. I would guess the 83.5 is going to be a winner.

bill

Notice the phrase "somewhat near" lol.

MAGFX
06-14-2013, 05:53 PM
I just did a little CAD analysis and I got a measurement of ~1 1/16" longer than what you are running now.

I measured the position of the adjacent accessory pulleys and their diameters, increased the PS pulley from 4.75 to 6", and moved the pump position .700" on a 45 line down and toward the driver's side. I'm sure my measurements aren't perfect, as I didn't have really good access, so a test fit is definitely warranted.

bmeyer40
06-15-2013, 09:39 AM
Do you see any issues running one with a slp udp?

ONE LOVE
06-15-2013, 06:27 PM
Hmmmmm. Keep me posted on the next batch..... I have a kennybell blower up top and Im spinning the **** outta my pump!!!

Hemissary
06-15-2013, 06:33 PM
Do you see any issues running one with a slp udp?

It'll be fine...

joelvan
06-15-2013, 08:29 PM
Do you want me to put you on the list for one of the next 10. I wont hit you up for the money til I got enough to put in the work order for then to be built.

Hmmmmm. Keep me posted on the next batch..... I have a kennybell blower up top and Im spinning the **** outta my pump!!!

bmeyer40
06-15-2013, 11:30 PM
Do you want me to put you on the list for one of the next 10. I wont hit you up for the money til I got enough to put in the work order for then to be built.

Put me down please.

Jontoad
06-16-2013, 04:09 PM
hummm.... the flange on the factory pulley decided to break off in the pulley puller. currently using a hack saw and a dremmel on the factory pulley in my bench vise to get it off... nothing ever goes as planned eh? lol.

Jontoad
06-16-2013, 05:24 PM
ok guys. i was correct with my estimation pulley math. lol. the 83.5 was perfect for the SRT guys. same belt tension as the stock one had too. so r/t guys with the stock dampener should be about an inch bigger than that. cutting the top bolt down was no biggie, just used my dremmel cutoff wheel and beveled the edges a bit with a bench sander.

i did run into one issue (besides having to hack saw off the old pulley after the flange broke off like i mentioned earlier. FML that was a bitch. haha.). if i tried to bolt the low pressure hose on the pump it was hitting the pulley now that it was bigger. so i just cocked it to the side and added a washer to the bolt to keep it in. see picture below... it is holding it as good as it was before so function is fine but it does look kinda ghetto. good thing my airaid hides it completely as ghetto looking stuff bothers me to no end. happily as Joel said, the steering is not effected at low RPM's. hopefully between this and my Derale frankencooler blown pumps are a thing of the past.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2z7liq0.jpg

joelvan
06-16-2013, 05:36 PM
That's odd, I didn't have any issues like that. I got almost 1/4in. on mine.




http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5350/8905767289_5534ffb2e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8905767289/) Photo050. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8905767289/) by joelvandiver (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on Flickr

Jontoad
06-16-2013, 06:11 PM
well, yours is for sure a different angle on the bracket. look how much sharper it is on mine, its close to a 45 deg angle from the hose. yours is almost straight. i dunno why it's different. the fitting is cast or welded on and would not spin when i tried that. mine is the factory 6.1 hose so it's not like i changed anything on it. either way, it's not a big deal. it's not a pressure hose and it has plenty of clamping force still. i am going to fab a bracket for it anyways, just not today. all that hack sawing has me beat. where is my gatoraid...

joelvan
06-16-2013, 06:24 PM
You might try putting a piece of pipe or a ratchet handle in the end of it . and put a little twist in it.

Jontoad
06-16-2013, 06:30 PM
i don't like to force stuff when i don't have a backup plan. i put quite a bit of force on it as it was and it wouldn't do what i wanted it to. i might see if i can order another one that i can F with on the side, then swap em out. either way it would be fine if i just left it as it is honestly. it's in there fine and held tight. if we can find out if there are different part numbers for different years or something i could just order the straighter one.

MattRobertson
06-17-2013, 12:40 PM
Looks like I have the same issue as jontoad does. From an old pic in a Frankentake III thread:

http://lelandwest.com/auto-tech/magnum/f3_mount_1.jpg

That was a 2005 5.7L motor in the car at the time, but oddly enough my 2006 6.1L-based motor uses the exact-same pump and hoses. We re-used them on the build. Joel what year/model are your hoses?

joelvan
06-17-2013, 01:45 PM
It's a 2008 Challenger 6.1 . It's a couple over a years ago when I put mine on. I have been trying to remember if I had to tweak mine to make it work.I don't think so tho.

MattRobertson
06-17-2013, 02:25 PM
This link with diagram may or may not work:

2008 DODGE CHALLENGER Parts - MoparPartz.com (http://www.trademotion.com/parts/2008/DODGE/CHALLENGER/SRT8/?siteid=213975&vehicleid=1442293&diagram=UP08250)

Note the parts are listed as fitting "2008-2010". But then again the Challenger didn't exist before 2008 and the 6.1L stopped in 2010. Right? So looking instead at a 2008 Charger:

2008 DODGE CHARGER Parts - MoparPartz.com (http://www.trademotion.com/parts/2008/DODGE/CHARGER/SRT8/?siteid=213975&vehicleid=1442089&diagram=PB06330)

Looks the same. Now a 2006 Charger:

2006 DODGE CHARGER Parts - MoparPartz.com (http://www.trademotion.com/parts/2006/DODGE/CHARGER/SRT8/?siteid=213975&vehicleid=1431866&diagram=PB06330)

:-|

Well thats illuminating. One thing: The diagram zoomed in seems to suggest the elbow is a part of the pump itself. Yikes. That *is* the one part whose price has changed on the site.

We need a layer of snooping beyond squinting at cheapo internet drawings and price lists to figure this out.


edit: Sho' 'nuff: That parts diagram shows the elbow is a part of the PS pump and the hose terminates on bare rubber with one of those squeezer fastener whatsits. So I am thinking the 2008-2010 Chally pump is the answer for us with older units?

MAGFX
06-17-2013, 02:33 PM
Looks like I have the same issue as jontoad does. From an old pic in a Frankentake III thread:

http://lelandwest.com/auto-tech/magnum/f3_mount_1.jpg

That was a 2005 5.7L motor in the car at the time, but oddly enough my 2006 6.1L-based motor uses the exact-same pump and hoses. We re-used them on the build. Joel what year/model are your hoses?

My '06 MSRT is like yours and Jontoad's. When I do mine, I will probably do the cut and weld. Although, I may look into adding heat and twisting.

Adanac Charger
06-17-2013, 02:54 PM
Late '06 RT... same as above

joelvan
06-17-2013, 03:38 PM
I have a spare pump and pulley. I will go to the shop Tomorrow I see if I can come up with a quick and easy solution. for this Issue.

MattRobertson
06-17-2013, 05:32 PM
Seeing as I am on the same PS pump as I started with in January of 2005, the world won't end if I spend $200 on a new pump. But thanks for lookin' into it. I'll stand by and see what you come up with.

I would do what MagFX is doing but oh thats right I forgot I am a danger to myself and others with a soldering iron; never mind a welder. :-)

joelvan
06-17-2013, 05:37 PM
I am pretty sure I will be able to slide something into the end of the tube and bend upward so that it clears . It wont take much.

Jontoad
06-17-2013, 09:43 PM
found something on a random image search of low pressure hoses...

look at page 10 of the procharger install instructions. they make a bracket for their kits for the same reason. 3rd pic down shows the new bracket they stack over the stock bracket while the hose is cocked at the same angle that i have it. it uses a longer bolt. looks simple to fab, it's basically a more legit version of my ghetto washer clamp. lol. i might pick up some metal from home depot and tackle it tomorrow since i have the day off.

https://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-1864-Challenger_08-10_HO_Procharger.pdf

here are the pictures from the procharger instructions on the right. on the left in red is an example of what i think the bracket shape is that i made in photoshop.

http://i41.tinypic.com/96didd.jpg

bmeyer40
06-17-2013, 10:38 PM
found something on a random image search of low pressure hoses...

look at page 10 of the procharger install instructions. they make a bracket for their kits for the same reason. 3rd pic down shows the new bracket they stack over the stock bracket with the hose cocked at the angle i have it and a longer bolt. looks simple to fab, it's basically a more legit version of my ghetto washer clamp. lol. i might pick up some metal from home depot and tackle it tomorrow since i have the day off.

https://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-1864-Challenger_08-10_HO_Procharger.pdf

here are the pictures from the procharger instructions on the right. on the left in red is an example of what i think the bracket shape is that i made in photoshop.

http://i41.tinypic.com/96didd.jpg

Nice find

joelvan
06-18-2013, 02:14 PM
Ok, here is the deal. I went to the shop and got out my spare pump. I installed the bigger pulley. I had to tweak the return to get clearance to fully installl the bigger pulley. The metal is soft so It will bend fairly easy. I used the handle of a 3/8 ratchett and slid it into the end of the pipe . use steady force upward and to the side. mine started lifting the pipe out of the pump as I quit tweaking it. I just tapped it lightly back into place with a hammer



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MAGFX
06-18-2013, 02:49 PM
Good one.

bmeyer40
06-18-2013, 03:47 PM
Ok, here is the deal. I went to the shop and got out my spare pump. I installed the bigger pulley. I had to tweak the return to get clearance to fully installl the bigger pulley. The metal is soft so It will bend fairly easy. I used the handle of a 3/8 ratchett and slid it into the end of the pipe . use steady force upward and to the side. mine started lifting the pipe out of the pump as I quit tweaking it. I just tapped it lightly back into place with a hammer



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/9078946908_775bac9e9c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9078946908/) Photo055A (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9078946908/) by joelvandiver (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on
Flickr


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Did you heat?

joelvan
06-18-2013, 03:51 PM
No heat necessary,

Hemissary
06-18-2013, 03:55 PM
Agreed, work-hardening is minimal for that amount of movement. Out of curiosity, how is the attachment flange secured to the tubing? if the tubing is a press-fit / expansive sort of deal - it might be able to be clocked slightly. Another simple solution would be to create a slot out the side of the mounting hole in the flange, then rotate no more than the original bolt can safely secure...

cmn1
06-21-2013, 01:19 PM
Does anyone have the belt size for a 17% od pulley with the new PS pulley. My Jeep is still out of my hands and would like to order a belt for when I get it back.

Jontoad
06-21-2013, 09:54 PM
Does anyone have the belt size for a 17% od pulley with the new PS pulley. My Jeep is still out of my hands and would like to order a belt for when I get it back.

seems to be whatever your using + 2 inches works. i used a 83.5 when my factory belt was 81.5

Hemissary
06-24-2013, 09:59 PM
Nice touch to add instructions for R&R'ing the pulley for those who need them. It's here, thanks Joel :^)

DSKREET
06-30-2013, 02:42 AM
Just did mine tonight. AWESOME kit. Went in smooth
50293
The belt size I found best to work, keep in mind this is with a 25%UP, 81- 5/8th.
50294
Alittle bending of the return nozzle had to be done but not much, maybe 16th of a inch for clearance.
50295
Great kit, Thank you Joelvan :)

bmeyer40
06-30-2013, 09:16 AM
Just did mine tonight. AWESOME kit. Went in smooth
50293
The belt size I found best to work, keep in mind this is with a 25%UP, 81- 5/8th.
50294
Alittle bending of the return nozzle had to be done but not much, maybe 16th of a inch for clearance.
50295
Great kit, Thank you Joelvan :)

Thanks for belt size.

How is the power steering operation with the crank UDP and PS UDP?

DSKREET
06-30-2013, 03:14 PM
^^^ Works just fine. I haven't noticed any change.

bmeyer40
06-30-2013, 04:25 PM
^^^ Works just fine. I haven't noticed any change.

Thanks for the feedback. Now we need another 8 so I can get one..........

joelvan
06-30-2013, 06:40 PM
Everyone spread the word !!!

foxe
06-30-2013, 09:19 PM
I am in the process of having an ATI 13% underdriven damper installed on my 6.1. I am anticipating taking my car to some road course outings in the future and want to be prepared. Will the 13% be good enough for the stock p/s system, or do I need to also install the bigger p/s pulley to really slow down the pump?

joelvan
07-01-2013, 09:19 AM
The underdrive will help . The larger PS pulley set wont hurt either

chukarboy
07-07-2013, 08:10 AM
Ok, here is the deal. I went to the shop and got out my spare pump. I installed the bigger pulley. I had to tweak the return to get clearance to fully installl the bigger pulley. The metal is soft so It will bend fairly easy. I used the handle of a 3/8 ratchett and slid it into the end of the pipe . use steady force upward and to the side. mine started lifting the pipe out of the pump as I quit tweaking it. I just tapped it lightly back into place with a hammer



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/9078946908_775bac9e9c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9078946908/) Photo055A (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9078946908/) by joelvandiver (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/), on
Flickr


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Flickr

I just bent mine up with no problem and I don't even have the kit yet.
I'm ready for it now!!!

Jontoad
07-07-2013, 08:10 PM
finally had a autocross track day since putting this kit on. i am used to hearing the pump whine after a few runs even with the aftermarket power steering cooler. now it was whisper quiet all day.

Meech
07-12-2013, 09:32 PM
I'm next, seems like it's 83.5 for me, anyone (Jon, Mike CT or Chris Freefallin) have a Part number on the 83.5 belt? Thanks

Meech

Jontoad
07-12-2013, 10:56 PM
for the 83.5 i used gatorback belt part number GTR-4060835

Meech
07-13-2013, 12:52 AM
for the 83.5 i used gatorback belt part number GTR-4060835



Thanks Jon!!

MattRobertson
07-15-2013, 08:10 AM
what he said :-)

joelvan
07-15-2013, 08:56 AM
I guess I am going to break down and build 10 more in next few weeks. Im doing it for the guys that didn't get in on the first round. I just hope I don't get stuck with em.

CT-MSRT
07-15-2013, 09:56 AM
I'm next, seems like it's 83.5 for me, anyone (Jon, Mike CT or Chris Freefallin) have a Part number on the 83.5 belt? Thanks

Meech

i literally walked into the parts store and told them the length and rib number and they found one in minutes. Still have yet to put it on though. been busy as of late.

Meech
07-15-2013, 09:03 PM
i literally walked into the parts store and told them the length and rib number and they found one in minutes. Still have yet to put it on though. been busy as of late.

Yeah Mike, I hear you --Ive been hammering the hours with three offices, I hope to get it all done before the next month comes.
Hope all is well
Meech

MattRobertson
07-16-2013, 11:36 AM
I'm doing it shortly as well.

Still have to unload the car from the track day :-). Then I have to change the brakes back to street pads. Need an oil change. then I can get to this. Hopefully in a couple weeks.

Meech
07-18-2013, 10:54 AM
If anyone wants the NAPA number, I cross-referenced it from the 4060835 number you guys submitted. NAPA 060837 closest to I can find to 83.5, looks like this may be 83.7 but it should not matter.

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/Meech355/HPDE_Belt-2_zpsc2345b62.jpg (http://s426.photobucket.com/user/Meech355/media/HPDE_Belt-2_zpsc2345b62.jpg.html)

Northern Rider
07-25-2013, 04:56 PM
Thanks for the cross -reference, Meech. I tracked down a belt and got the install done. Thanks Joel, for a great mod.

First impressions - steering is a little heavier at low speeds (I'm running 275/30/20 PSS tires all round). I like the feel. More like a "German" car, if you know what I mean. Better for those tiny corrections we all make on the track.

I will be racing a week from today and can give you a better report when we carve some wicked corners at high speed.

joelvan
07-25-2013, 05:44 PM
Ive started the build process for round 2 anyone that wants the fix for the pump failure issue
Paypal
$125. to [email protected]

joelvan
08-23-2013, 05:37 PM
I have 5 setups ready to ship!!!!



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Northern Rider
08-23-2013, 07:56 PM
Thanks for the cross -reference, Meech. I tracked down a belt and got the install done. Thanks Joel, for a great mod.

First impressions - steering is a little heavier at low speeds (I'm running 275/30/20 PSS tires all round). I like the feel. More like a "German" car, if you know what I mean. Better for those tiny corrections we all make on the track.

I will be racing a week from today and can give you a better report when we carve some wicked corners at high speed.

This is a great mod! Runs great at the track. Definitely reduces the pump rpm (thus the pressure and heat) at high revs.

joelvan
08-26-2013, 05:45 PM
Thanks Brian , Your kit mailed out today.

MattRobertson
10-30-2013, 10:17 PM
I finally got mine installed and it works fantastic! Gatorback belt part number GTR-4060835 worked a treat to replace the serpentine. This is a must-have for LX gofast people. Think of how many poor, innocent pumps could have been saved if only this mod had come out sooner.

joelvan
10-31-2013, 08:24 AM
I got em in stock.

bmeyer40
10-31-2013, 11:56 AM
Anyone have part number for belt with a 25% udp?

joelvan
10-31-2013, 07:05 PM
Just buy a belt 2 inches longer than the one you were using. several said that is what worked for them.

bobsmyuncle
11-13-2013, 10:55 PM
Just want to confirm they are still in stock before shooting you money. Thanks!

joelvan
11-14-2013, 05:02 PM
I got em ready to ship!

bobsmyuncle
11-14-2013, 05:18 PM
Money sent, PM on the way.

370 Dart
11-22-2013, 02:43 PM
What diameter is that larger pulley? Not trying to step on anybody's toes just curious. I am going to use a GM T type pump off my old engine combo since it worked great with the steering box in my Dart. A 2005 Dodge truck pulley pressed right on this pump and is pretty close to the same diameter as the old one. I think the rack and pinion on you're LX's uses more pressure than my Borgeson box wants.

joelvan
11-22-2013, 05:58 PM
6" getting the right offset is what is hard to find

bobsmyuncle
11-28-2013, 07:02 PM
Got mine a couple days ago. Thanks. iTrader feedback on the way.

370 Dart
11-28-2013, 08:04 PM
Here's what i'm dealing with Joel. Measured pulley and its 5.5" so that's no good but i'll make my own mount out of 1/2" and will still need to slide pulley away from pump some for alignment. I bought my engine without any accessories and found an alternator yesterday to use along with the old water pump to finally mock this up. I'm relieved its going to work and will probably just get the pulley only from you if possible. http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt347/bdhmbre/IMAG0054_zps3b40fb52.jpg (http://s626.photobucket.com/user/bdhmbre/media/IMAG0054_zps3b40fb52.jpg.html)

Ivanzoz
12-11-2013, 10:48 AM
Do you still have these in stock?

joelvan
12-11-2013, 12:17 PM
there in stock !

joelvan
04-07-2014, 04:13 PM
Spring bump for power steering kits I fixing to build 10 more next week.

MAGFX
04-07-2014, 04:44 PM
Mine is working perfectly.

MattRobertson
04-07-2014, 04:47 PM
ditto.

Northern Rider
04-07-2014, 06:37 PM
Double ditto . . .

MAGFX
04-07-2014, 06:59 PM
...a double what? Oh, OK.

04-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Belts that fit 1996 Chevrolet Camaro 6 Cylinders K 3.8L SFI OHV W/O A/C will fit the upgraded pulley with this kit.

832K6
25060832
832K6
833K6
5060833

rell6103
11-24-2014, 02:57 PM
Joel, do you have these kits in stock?

Northern Rider, I think I've read the 2011 PS pumps are fine stock? How is yours fairing? I have the 2011 SRT Challenger

joelvan
11-24-2014, 08:24 PM
I got a kit ready to ship.

decepticon
02-19-2015, 09:01 PM
I am selling my power steering setup. pulley and relocation bracket setup. PM me and paypal $125. to [email protected]

Paid and Delivered

1st BATCH

1,CT-MSRT BL
2.reSRTrection OR
3.Meech no paint
4.cmn1
5.freefallin
6.Hemissary no paint
7.NextLevel BL
8.Curts300srt8 BL
9.MattRobertson BL
10.Northern Rider BL
11.Jontoad OR
12.Mike777
13.DSKREET
14.MAGFX



IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ONE PM ME.
I have em in stock and ready to ship!!!!


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Installation procedure ,

Remove Air filter Box and pipe.

Remove Fan Assembly


Remove the three pump mounting bolts


Remove stock pulley using proper tool. You can borrow the puller and install tool. @ Advanced auto parts or Autozone

Install the plate




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You will need to cutoff one of the original pump bolts.

Cut off bolt so it only protrudes 3/8" past the pump body.
Place it in the TOP LEFT bolt hole in the pump.


(Test fit the cut off bolt to make sure it doesn't bottom out )


((((Place all three pump mounting bolts through pump before installing the pulley.))))



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Install pulley about half the depth onto shaft . Tighten the three pump bolts Install new belt. Adjust the pulley depth to the correct alignment of the other pulleys.

Crank engine, Rev engine to redline several times. Inspect all pulleys to ensure the belt has not jumped out of any groves. ((( Readjust and repeat as necessary )))


Re install fans and air filter box





Areally you taking orders ?

TheFrankenberry
02-20-2015, 05:15 AM
If you're asking if the OP is still selling the pulley and bracket, just PM him. I picked mine up from him just last month.

Sick Brick
09-14-2015, 12:59 PM
Hmm, I was just informed about this mod and I'm wondering if it will help me? I am having major issues shredding, breaking or snapping belts on my new build. I have had 2 power steering pump pulleys crack, so I ordered an HHP aluminum pulley for mine. I run a stroked 6.1 to 392 w Thitek heads and a Vortech V2 Ti blower with a 17% ATI balancer in my 2008 Jeep. We have been through everything, laser alignment, Thump RRR tensioner, GT500 tensioner, all sorts of different belts you name it and nothing is working. It would last when I had the 32 tooth pulley on the blower and only saw 8lbs, but who wants 8 lbs on a built motor? I wanted 15! lol Anyway I put on the 28 tooth and saw about 12lbs and it eaten belts constantly since it cracked my power steering pump pulley. They had trouble sourcing another power steering pump (they insisted we order a whole new pump) but got me a reman one and it seems a little stiff. Could it be the wrong pump? Is there a difference with the 6.1 vs the 5.7? Also will this bracket kit you offer provide more belt wrap for me? Please help my Jeep has been down over 6 weeks straight in summer in Alberta Canada so my window to drive it is almost closed. I'd definitely like a bracket if it will help me. Also will it work with the HHP aluminum pulley I ordered last week?

Sick Brick
09-15-2015, 03:49 PM
Maybe I should have asked if this was the "kit" that adds more belt wrap to the power steering pulley, that hopefully prevents belt shred/break etc?
Someone told me to find the "kit" that moves the power steering pump out another 1/2 inch or so that they use on the Kenne Bell blowers.

MattRobertson
09-15-2015, 05:56 PM
Well this kit does move the power steering pump out a little. And you need a slightly longer belt for that. But it wasn't designed to solve any belt issues. It was designed to reduce the rpm's that the power steering pump runs at to help keep the fluid temperature down, which in turn blows up the pump/hoses when it gets too hot as a result of sustained high rpm's that go along with running laps around a race track. It moves the pulley out a bit because the pulley itself is larger and need more room to clear.

Sick Brick
09-16-2015, 01:10 PM
Well this kit does move the power steering pump out a little. And you need a slightly longer belt for that. But it wasn't designed to solve any belt issues. It was designed to reduce the rpm's that the power steering pump runs at to help keep the fluid temperature down, which in turn blows up the pump/hoses when it gets too hot as a result of sustained high rpm's that go along with running laps around a race track. It moves the pulley out a bit because the pulley itself is larger and need more room to clear.

Okay that's what I thought. Just trying to figure out if this is the same kit that Modified Mopar Performance recommended to me to help with extra belt wrap. They said they use it on their KB kits to help. Looks like the same kit. Would be nice not to blow up a power steering pump with my 17% od too.

bullettrain
01-05-2016, 12:48 AM
Is this kit still available ? Looking to do this with an 8 rib pulley if possible. How is the depth of pulley on shaft adjusted?

MattRobertson
01-05-2016, 12:40 PM
You don't adjust the pulley shaft. You just install it and it aligns just fine. If there is any deflection over the stock setup it doesn't result in any wear or reliability issues over the long term. These things have been out for quite some time and if there was a problem we'd have seen it by now.

Northern Rider
01-05-2016, 03:49 PM
Yep. No more blown ps pumps on my 300C SRT8 race car. We've now done 3 seasons of flat out racing where the engine is at max RPM's.


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