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NYC_SRT8
02-19-2011, 10:24 PM
I wanted to take deliver before posting on the forum but being atleast 3 weeks away from it shipping and on top it's burning me to say something...:)


Here are the stats....

Custom made, 18x10 +15, 20lbs each and in matte black! http://www.forgestar.com/v1/f14.php
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/f14blackhighres.jpg


Here's the story...


Last year I was running 18x9 Mustang Saleen replicas. After comparing them side by side with a fellow lx'ers 18x9.5 wheel with the same size slicks mounted I seen I was giving up A LOT of contact patch. From that point I was on the search for a inexpensive wheel plus what is the maximum width I can run on all four corners. My search brought me to the mustang saleen 18x10 +22 offset. Perfect, well not exactly. The +22 offset had the wheel touching the knuckle in the front(confirmed in person). To confortably clear the knuckle I'll need a 0.43x inch spacer. With a spacer that thick the wheel won't sit on the hub and the studs would be supporting the stress of the wheel. That would be ok if I was using the wheel for street driving. However, not something I want when cornering over 1g on a track though. My search went on till it dawned on me about my friend who has a wheel shop. I called him up, told him what I wanted, he told me a price(little over a grand) and I threw my credit card number. The rest...well you know that goes...:)


The wheels are stout! All the wheels they make are strength tested by a independent company. Here is a link to there test data... http://www.forgestar.com/v1/testdata.php

The wheels are not casted nor forged. It's like a hybrid of both. It's called Flow Formed. It gives up a pound or two to a forged wheel but just at strong. Here is a link to the technique used to make the wheel... http://www.forgestar.com/v1/tech.php


When they arrive I'll post more pics. I can't f'ing wait:rock:


UPDATE- A few people asked who I got the wheels from. If anyone else is interested I got them through www.d2autosport.com (http://www.d2autosport.com) . When you call ask to speak to Stefan and tell him you know Will with the Red 300c srt8.

NYC_SRT8
02-19-2011, 10:26 PM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4156.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4153.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4155.jpg



Looking at the pic you'll see the least clearance between the tire and the knuckle is closes to the rim.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1702.jpg



flush with the wheel-well
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1699.jpg

The money shot...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1698.jpg

CTRaider
02-19-2011, 10:28 PM
Looks like you hit the bullseye Will. Great looking wheel. Hope to see it in person this spring.

FlyByU
02-19-2011, 10:41 PM
Who is Will?

bklynmag
02-19-2011, 11:22 PM
Nice wheels.. . . . . BTW. . .welcome to the forum:wink:

mjr5150
02-19-2011, 11:35 PM
Wow . Highly functional and pretty damn good looking wheels . Looking forward to the results man .

NYC_SRT8
02-19-2011, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Hopefully I can become a part of the family soon...:duh:

Bailman
02-20-2011, 08:42 AM
I dunno. Are they gonna go with that interior Blue Neon lighting?

NYC_SRT8
02-20-2011, 10:54 AM
I dunno. Are they gonna go with that interior Blue Neon lighting?


Wrong person buddy. I have Red LED interior lights fool...lol

lmhoward
02-20-2011, 11:18 AM
I have Forgestar's ordered too. (for another car) Be sure to tell them to send the metal centering rings. I'm told they sometimes ship with the plastic ones and that wouldn't be good since you want to use them on the track. (Like me) I look forward to seeing your pictures when they arrive. I'll post mine too.

Les

JimIsland-SRT8
02-20-2011, 11:25 AM
You did good bud....those look great!!

Illinois Chaos
02-20-2011, 01:05 PM
18x10 +16 offset is what I'm seeing on the site. Close, but will it clear?

Bailman
02-20-2011, 02:34 PM
Wrong person buddy. I have Red LED interior lights fool...lol


Really? :Na_Na_Na_Na:

yeah they look real nice...need to see them in person though.
Are you gonna be going to ETown this year or is it all beneath you now, Racer extraordinaire?

NYC_SRT8
02-20-2011, 02:34 PM
I have Forgestar's ordered too. (for another car) Be sure to tell them to send the metal centering rings. I'm told they sometimes ship with the plastic ones and that wouldn't be good since you want to use them on the track. (Like me) I look forward to seeing your pictures when they arrive. I'll post mine too.

Les

Thanks for the heads up. I'll tell my friend who is a distributor for them to confirm the center caps are metal.


You did good bud....those look great!!

Thanks!


18x10 +16 offset is what I'm seeing on the site. Close, but will it clear?

It's been test fitted...it will work!

NYC_SRT8
02-20-2011, 02:39 PM
Really? :Na_Na_Na_Na:

yeah they look real nice...need to see them in person though.
Are you gonna be going to ETown this year or is it all beneath you now, Racer extraordinaire?


I'll be at e-town to watch. But those wheels are only for the road course so they won't be with me at e-town.

WitchyWndy
02-20-2011, 02:47 PM
Very cool, Will!!! :thumbs_u:

SRT8UUP
02-20-2011, 09:42 PM
The L.I.E doesnt qualify as a Road Course ?

02-21-2011, 12:44 AM
Are they available in any bolt pattern? 5x117 would be nice!!

gooeytek
02-21-2011, 12:57 AM
so what are you doing with your set of 18x9's?

NYC_SRT8
02-21-2011, 07:47 AM
Very cool, Will!!! :thumbs_u:

Thanks Wendy!


The L.I.E doesnt qualify as a Road Course ?

I agree...:mrgreen:


Are they available in any bolt pattern? 5x117 would be nice!!

These are custom wheels built to order. They can make any bottle pattern but they don't come in 17inch. I'm pretty sure you want to mount drag radials/slick on them.


so what are you doing with your set of 18x9's?

I have a guy on the forum I promised them since november. If he still want them he has 1st dibs. Once I get these wheels in the mail I'll put the 18x9 wheels in the same box and have them ready to ship. If he backs out then 1st come 1st served.

CT-MSRT
02-21-2011, 07:57 AM
they look cute. think that will actually help your driving though? :)

NYC_SRT8
02-21-2011, 08:08 AM
they look cute. think that will actually help your driving though? :)

We'll see on April 16th! Isn't there a frat hazing you should be attending now college boy?:mrgreen:

CT-MSRT
02-21-2011, 08:20 AM
We'll see on April 16th! Isn't there a frat hazing you should be attending now college boy?:mrgreen:

Sounds like a NASA date at Lime Rock. You makin a run at me boy?

If things go well I'll be done by August. I may not travel anymore for tracking but I'll always find some scratch to defend my home ground. I have gone mid 1:03's there so if you don't get in that range when you beat my recorded time, it won't last long. Watch out for the wall at the up-hill when you try to push those times.

NYC_SRT8
02-21-2011, 08:33 AM
Sounds like a NASA date at Lime Rock. You makin a run at me boy?

If things go well I'll be done by August. I may not travel anymore for tracking but I'll always find some scratch to defend my home ground. I have gone mid 1:03's there so if you don't get in that range when you beat my recorded time, it won't last long. Watch out for the wall at the up-hill when you try to push those times.


April 16th is at NJMP Lightening. May 1st is Lime Rock UNMUFFLED with scda. Yes I'll be at there too...watching out for the wall:panic:

MattRobertson
02-25-2011, 12:25 PM
Holy shiznit I missed this thread totally.

I WANT A SET!

This will save me the trouble of fighting with Tire Rack for another run of the 18x9.5 Borbet's, and these are 18x10. Perfect!

I have SRT knuckles going on as we speak in the front, along with all new hubs and extended lugs all around.

pm on the way :-)


edit: Looks like I am selling my 6 Borbet 18x8.5's.

Jontoad
02-25-2011, 09:58 PM
sexy in gunmetal.... must not spend more money... must not..... lol.

i just cant swing it right now after buying the coilovers this year... but next season my track set of vipers might have to be sold to fund a set of those wheels so i can step up to hoosiers or conti slicks...

lmhoward
02-25-2011, 10:44 PM
Just a word for Forgestar buyers. I ordered on the 10th of January and they told me in 2 weeks the will ship. They still haven't been shipped even though I've been told twice "they ship tomorrow". Tomorrow being the 7th of February and then the 10th of February. The latest was thursday the 24th but still haven't shipped. 2 months is not too long to wait for a custom order but be aware that if they tell you 2 weeks it will be 2 months. Just a little FYI. I'm a little sick of being told they ship tomorrow. But at the same time, I can't wait for them to arrive. Be prepared to wait. I'll be super critical in my review when they finally get here. (SRT-6)

Les

(Edit, sorry .... theres a sale on Chilean wine and I want my wheels AND I've been partaking)

NYC_SRT8
02-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Just a word for Forgestar buyers. I ordered on the 10th of January and they told me in 2 weeks the will ship. They still haven't been shipped even though I've been told twice "they ship tomorrow". Tomorrow being the 7th of February and then the 10th of February. The latest was thursday the 24th but still haven't shipped. 2 months is not too long to wait for a custom order but be aware that if they tell you 2 weeks it will be 2 months. Just a little FYI. I'm a little sick of being told they ship tomorrow. But at the same time, I can't wait for them to arrive. Be prepared to wait. I'll be super critical in my review when they finally get here. (SRT-6)

Les

Les

Les,

Thanks for the heads up my friend. Did you order directly through Forgestar or a distributor?

MattRobertson
02-26-2011, 12:52 AM
I can't decide between gunmetal and flat black. The flat black would look the same after a track day :D Or maybe fuggit I'll get the silver/titanium. I gotta hose off the brake dust, anyway. I might order as soon as Monday from NYC_SRT's source.

Cibalo
02-26-2011, 02:13 AM
those are some nice looking wheels Will. I'm very interested to hear your report after you have a chance to fit them and do a little test run. What tire are you going to be running on these puppies?

lmhoward
02-26-2011, 08:16 AM
I ordered from Automotive Connoisseur Group in San Diego. Each time I've inquired about the status of my wheels they've picked up the phone and called Forgestar to ask before giving me an answer. Like I said, 2 months is not long to wait for custom wheels but I made, and didn't make, tire purchases based on a month wait and had to sit out a race because I don't have tires for my stock wheels. I have a set for the Forgestars! But enough about the wait. They are great looking wheels and a bargain. Everyone I know that has a set loves them.

Les

NYC_SRT8
02-26-2011, 10:12 PM
I can't decide between gunmetal and flat black. The flat black would look the same after a track day :D Or maybe fuggit I'll get the silver/titanium. I gotta hose off the brake dust, anyway. I might order as soon as Monday from NYC_SRT's source.


Sounds good Matt!

I've gotten a few inquires about where I got the wheels from. I got them through www.d2autosport.com (http://www.d2autosport.com) . If interested give them a call and ask to speak to Stefan. Tell him you know Will with the red 300c srt8. He'll take care of you.

NYC_SRT8
02-26-2011, 10:19 PM
those are some nice looking wheels Will. I'm very interested to hear your report after you have a chance to fit them and do a little test run. What tire are you going to be running on these puppies?

I will be mounting scrub Continental Series slicks on them, 275-30-18. I've had 2 sets and all came with atleast 85% left in them. On average I get 3 track days out of them. For $412 shipped to my door I say thats a steal.



I ordered from Automotive Connoisseur Group in San Diego. Each time I've inquired about the status of my wheels they've picked up the phone and called Forgestar to ask before giving me an answer. Like I said, 2 months is not long to wait for custom wheels but I made, and didn't make, tire purchases based on a month wait and had to sit out a race because I don't have tires for my stock wheels. I have a set for the Forgestars! But enough about the wait. They are great looking wheels and a bargain. Everyone I know that has a set loves them.

Les


I'm ready to wait 2 months. My 1st track day is not until April anyway. I know these wheels are legit. My friend has always treated me well. I trust his judgement when it comes to wheels.

lmhoward
03-17-2011, 05:15 PM
I received my wheels last week and have them on the car. You won't be sorry, they are stunning! I had a scare because 3 boxes arrived first and the 4th the following day. The centering rings work perfectly, the lugs are the right length, I'm happy. I even had a time trial event with them this past weekend and picked up several seconds over my previous best time. Great wheels.

Les

King Savage
03-17-2011, 05:43 PM
Wow. I am generally not a fan of most aftermarket wheels but those things look awesome.

MattRobertson
03-17-2011, 06:21 PM
I received my wheels last week and have them on the car. You won't be sorry, they are stunning! I had a scare because 3 boxes arrived first and the 4th the following day. The centering rings work perfectly, the lugs are the right length, I'm happy. I even had a time trial event with them this past weekend and picked up several seconds over my previous best time. Great wheels.

Les
What size are those?

lmhoward
03-17-2011, 06:31 PM
What size are those?

18x9 with 245/35/18 on the front
18x10 with 275/35/18 on the rear
Putting the smallest recommended tire on the widest recommended rim made a world of difference in the tire wear. It's even now! I have to rethink my alignment though.

Les

smoove7410
03-17-2011, 06:47 PM
Forgestar makes awesome wheels. It is only a matter of time before someone runs those F14's in 22's. ;)

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 09:14 PM
I received my wheels last week and have them on the car. You won't be sorry, they are stunning! I had a scare because 3 boxes arrived first and the 4th the following day. The centering rings work perfectly, the lugs are the right length, I'm happy. I even had a time trial event with them this past weekend and picked up several seconds over my previous best time. Great wheels.

Les

Looking good my friend, looking good...

I can f'ing wait now.:panic:

lmhoward
03-17-2011, 09:33 PM
It's worth the wait. Your going to love them. :banana: I think I sold 3 or 4 sets on Sunday at the track event. Drool was flowing over the Forgestars. I just had to come on the Forum and torture you. :stir:

Les

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 09:35 PM
It's worth the wait. Your going to love them. :banana: I think I sold 3 or 4 sets on Sunday at the track event. Drool was flowing over the Forgestars. I just had to come on the Forum and torture you. :stir:

Les

Thanks, you are such a nice guy.:)

lmhoward
03-17-2011, 09:57 PM
How about a video of the Forgestars at work .... or play. Waiting is such a biatch.

Les

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ersLBPLSi8

CVP33
03-17-2011, 10:19 PM
Will the 18x11's fit in the rear?

http://www.elementwheels.com/proddetail.asp?prod=fs%2Df14gm1890fs%2Df14gm1811

MattRobertson
03-17-2011, 10:26 PM
18x10 with 275/35/18 on the rear

Any chance you could get some closeups and side shots of the rears? 275/35/18 is the size everyone is running with the grand-am scrubs.

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 10:30 PM
Will the 18x11's fit in the rear?

http://www.elementwheels.com/proddetail.asp?prod=fs%2Df14gm1890fs%2Df14gm1811

I know xevilpetex has 18x10.5 enkei wheels in the rear...
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showpost.php?p=2596735&postcount=1

From looking at his fitment pics I think you can get away with a +15 in the rear with a 11 inch wheel. You may need a 3mm or smaller spacer. +20 offset I don't know about though

CVP33
03-17-2011, 10:31 PM
Any chance you could get some closeups and side shots of the rears? 275/35/18 is the size everyone is running with the grand-am scrubs.

Yup me too.

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 10:35 PM
How about a video of the Forgestars at work .... or play. Waiting is such a biatch.

Les

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ersLBPLSi8

Nice video man!:not_worth

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 10:45 PM
Will the 18x11's fit in the rear?

http://www.elementwheels.com/proddetail.asp?prod=fs%2Df14gm1890fs%2Df14gm1811

I took a look at that website. That price is very good. It's the cheapest I seen it posted on any site. Good find! The price I got mine for is not much less than that.

CVP33
03-17-2011, 10:47 PM
I took a look at that website. That price is very good. It's the cheapest I seen it posted on any site. Good find! The price I got mine for is not much less than that.

Do you think the 11's will fit in the back?

NYC_SRT8
03-17-2011, 10:55 PM
Do you think the 11's will fit in the back?

I know xevilpetex has 18x10.5 enkei wheels in the rear...
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showpo...35&postcount=1 (http://www.lxforums.com/board/showpost.php?p=2596735&postcount=1)

From looking at his fitment pics I think you can get away with a +15 in the rear with a 11 inch wheel. You may need a 3mm or smaller spacer. +20 offset I don't know about though

I use this: http://1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp to check offset differences.

CVP33
03-17-2011, 11:27 PM
So you're running 18x10's +15 on all 4 corners? I think I may order these tonight.

lmhoward
03-18-2011, 08:19 AM
This is the best I have.

NYC_SRT8
03-18-2011, 08:36 AM
So you're running 18x10's +15 on all 4 corners? I think I may order these tonight.

18x10 +16 at all corners. If your thinking of getting them to use for this race season hurry up and order. It takes 2 months to deliver.

lmhoward
03-20-2011, 07:30 AM
So when are they scheduled to arrive? Are they here yet? Your first post said 3 weeks and that was Feb. 19th. :stir: You'll forget about the wait after you see them on. Trust me.:beerchug:

Les

CVP33
03-20-2011, 09:45 AM
You guys have much more patience then me. I'll probably order mine toward the end of the season. In the mean time I'll be ordering the staggered mustangs.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels-for-Mustang/1994-2004-5-Lug/1979-1993-4-Lug/18-Mustang-Saleen-Replica-p8182180-3-1.html

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 10:23 AM
So when are they scheduled to arrive? Are they here yet? Your first post said 3 weeks and that was Feb. 19th. :stir: You'll forget about the wait after you see them on. Trust me.:beerchug:

Les

I was told that my wheels should be ready this week coming. For the record the order was put in on the 14th so it's over a month now.:Na_Na_Na_Na: My 1st track day is April 16th so I have some time before I start to panic...I think!:panic:


You guys have much more patience then me. I'll probably order mine toward the end of the season. In the mean time I'll be ordering the staggered mustangs.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels-for-Mustang/1994-2004-5-Lug/1979-1993-4-Lug/18-Mustang-Saleen-Replica-p8182180-3-1.html

You sure can find things dirt cheap bud. But don't you have 18x9 saleen replica's already? Why not buy 4 18x10 to stay square or even buy 2 18x10 then you can use 2 of the 18x9 you already have?

CVP33
03-20-2011, 10:42 AM
I was told that my wheels should be ready this week coming. For the record the order was put in on the 14th so it's over a month now.:Na_Na_Na_Na: My 1st track day is April 16th so I have some time before I start to panic...I think!:panic:



You sure can find things dirt cheap bud. But don't you have 18x9 saleen replica's already? Why not buy 4 18x10 to stay square or even buy 2 18x10 then you can use 2 of the 18x9 you already have?

You know I didn't even think about that. I think I will do that. Just get the 18x10's on all 4 corners. Didn't want to buy 2 as I want them to match. I'm kinda funny about that stuff....it's gotta match.

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 10:51 AM
You know I didn't even think about that. I think I will do that. Just get the 18x10's on all 4 corners. Didn't want to buy 2 as I want them to match. I'm kinda funny about that stuff....it's gotta match.

Remember you'll need a 1/4" spacer for the front running those 18x10 Saleen replicas. Also check your lug nut engagement. You may need 1/4" longer studs. I have a brand new set if you need. I was going to install them when I was going this route just to play it safe. Since my new wheels won't need spacers I have no use for them.

lmhoward
03-20-2011, 11:31 AM
I know your cars are heavy but my experience may be worth something to you guys. Don't put too large a tire on the rims. I've run from stock sizes to larger than recommended tires on my stock rims and my times stayed the same. The tires always wore the outside much faster than the rest of the tire no matter what pressures or alignment I used. Going to a small tire on a wide rim has really helped. The tires are wearing much better on the track. When I said I picked up a few seconds, I went from 1:34.5 to 1:30.5 with no other changes to the car. I had a previous best with 235 on a 7.5' rim the front and 265 on a 9" rim on the rear. Going to a 9" rim with a 245 on the front and a 10" rim with a 275 on the rear made a huge difference. Having more rubber has to help but I think most of the gain is from the whole tire working better because of the fitment on the rim. I have another track day on the 3rd of april on a go-kart track. All turns and no straights. Let's just call it a handing track. It will be huge test to my wide rim narrow tire theory.
BTW, the new setup weighs the same on the front as stock. Wider rim and heavier tire. But on the rear I saved 3 lbs a corner even with the heavier Kumhos. Hoosiers weigh about 4 lbs. less a tire, a future possibility.

Les

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 12:09 PM
I know your cars are heavy but my experience may be worth something to you guys. Don't put too large a tire on the rims. I've run from stock sizes to larger than recommended tires on my stock rims and my times stayed the same. The tires always wore the outside much faster than the rest of the tire no matter what pressures or alignment I used. Going to a small tire on a wide rim has really helped. The tires are wearing much better on the track. When I said I picked up a few seconds, I went from 1:34.5 to 1:30.5 with no other changes to the car. I had a previous best with 235 on a 7.5' rim the front and 265 on a 9" rim on the rear. Going to a 9" rim with a 245 on the front and a 10" rim with a 275 on the rear made a huge difference. Having more rubber has to help but I think most of the gain is from the whole tire working better because of the fitment on the rim. I have another track day on the 3rd of april on a go-kart track. All turns and no straights. Let's just call it a handing track. It will be huge test to my wide rim narrow tire theory.
BTW, the new setup weighs the same on the front as stock. Wider rim and heavier tire. But on the rear I saved 3 lbs a corner even with the heavier Kumhos. Hoosiers weigh about 4 lbs. less a tire, a future possibility.

Les

That's my reason for moving from 18x9 to 18x10. The 275/35/18 Continental scrubs I'm running was giving up too much contact patch when I compared to others running them on wider rims last year.

MattRobertson
03-20-2011, 02:36 PM
This is the best I have.Thats plenty. thank you. I was able to zoom in and see. Fit is going to be *perfect*


You guys have much more patience then me. I'll probably order mine toward the end of the season. In the mean time I'll be ordering the staggered mustangs.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Wheels-for-Mustang/1994-2004-5-Lug/1979-1993-4-Lug/18-Mustang-Saleen-Replica-p8182180-3-1.htmlJumping Jehoshaphat... That is CHEAP! Those prices are for all four wheels. Damn those Fords and their cheap aftermarket parts.

But a 1/4" spacer on track is not a pretty thing to contemplate. You SURE about that? I have some really nice billet hub-centric spacers ... I don't use them. I've got extended studs too. wouldn't want to go there. Creeps me out.

CVP33
03-20-2011, 02:42 PM
Jumping Jehoshaphat... That is CHEAP! Those prices are for all four wheels. Damn those Fords and their cheap aftermarket parts.

But a 1/4" spacer on track is not a pretty thing to contemplate. You SURE about that? I have some really nice billet hub-centric spacers ... I don't use them. I've got extended studs too. wouldn't want to go there. Creeps me out.

NYC - did you run the spacers in the fronts with 18x10's or were you able to clear? If not, Matt's right, I'll have to stick with the staggereds. Currently I have the 18x9's, with properly machined wheels to accept our hubs. When I get the new set I'll be machining them as well. Won't go on the track until they're right. Current setup was hitting 163mph on the straights at VIR. New setup should be approaching 170mph. Losing a wheel is not an option.

lmhoward
03-20-2011, 02:56 PM
I can actually fit wider rims on my car. But the front tire is limited by that suspension bolt that you LXers have to deal with. I've seen a 305 on the rear of a Crossfire but I couldn't see a good reason to go bigger on the rear being limited to a 245 on the front. If I lifted the front I could get a 255 but it would have to stick out 10mm. If you can fit a 10.5 or 11 it might even be better with a 275 than a 10.
Oh, I paid $1,200 plus shipping for my Forgestars. I got in before the price increase from ACG of San Diego. (Just be ready to wait 2 months)

I ran a 10mm spacer on the front of my car for a year with no problems. But I never saw more than 130 mph.

Les

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 05:56 PM
NYC - did you run the spacers in the fronts with 18x10's or were you able to clear? If not, Matt's right, I'll have to stick with the staggereds. Currently I have the 18x9's, with properly machined wheels to accept our hubs. When I get the new set I'll be machining them as well. Won't go on the track until they're right. Current setup was hitting 163mph on the straights at VIR. New setup should be approaching 170mph. Losing a wheel is not an option.

I tested fitted the 18x10's last month. Gooeytek has them for his car. He brought them over when I was doing my track prep for the season in February (changing brake fluid, checking bolts, etc.) and I tried them with the 1/4" spacer. They cleared enough to use the 275/35 tire. He also had H&R 1" wheel adapters and while test fitting with those the wheels poked out of the fender too much for my comfort. MikahB also run 18x10 mustang replicas on there Challenger and had to use 1/4" spacer. Joelvan has been running these wheels for over a year with wider tires and had to use a 7/16" spacer. Running a spacer that wide scared me away from running those wheels too but if I didn't find Forgestar I would have went that route.

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 06:09 PM
I can actually fit wider rims on my car. But the front tire is limited by that suspension bolt that you LXers have to deal with. I've seen a 305 on the rear of a Crossfire but I couldn't see a good reason to go bigger on the rear being limited to a 245 on the front. If I lifted the front I could get a 255 but it would have to stick out 10mm. If you can fit a 10.5 or 11 it might even be better with a 275 than a 10.
Oh, I paid $1,200 plus shipping for my Forgestars. I got in before the price increase from ACG of San Diego. (Just be ready to wait 2 months)

I ran a 10mm spacer on the front of my car for a year with no problems. But I never saw more than 130 mph.

Les

Wow, I thought I got a deal.

MattRobertson
03-20-2011, 06:32 PM
I tested fitted the 18x10's last month. Gooeytek has them for his car. He brought them over when I was doing my track prep for the season in February (changing brake fluid, checking bolts, etc.) and I tried them with the 1/4" spacer.
Hey bud let me make sure I understand you completely: The Forgetec 18x10's need a 1/4" spacer?

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 06:49 PM
Sorry, I'm talking about 18x10 +22 offset mustang replicas. Forgestar 18x10 +16 you won't need a spacer.

CVP33
03-20-2011, 07:10 PM
Well that settles it for me. 18x9 + 18x10 replicas for now at $399 a set. Late season, order the forgestars in 18x10's all 'round and sit and wait.

Just a thought. Anyone else willing to wait a little (maybe 2 more weeks) and see if we can put a deal together for say - 3 or 4 sets of Forgestars? The wait is just due to wanting to ensure that NYC gets his installed with no fitment issues.

lmhoward
03-20-2011, 07:57 PM
Check out the Forgestar website. The smallest offset they offer in 18x10 is 16 mm. As long as it's within the range on the website you choose the offset, bolt pattern etc. and they make it for you. And they are pretty darn light too.

Les

MattRobertson
03-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Sorry, I'm talking about 18x10 +22 offset mustang replicas. Forgestar 18x10 +16 you won't need a spacer.
OK for a minute there I thought I had missed something. Good thing I am already doing laundry. I'll just throw my underpants into the wash right now :D

CVP33
03-20-2011, 10:46 PM
Check out the Forgestar website. The smallest offset they offer in 18x10 is 16 mm. As long as it's within the range on the website you choose the offset, bolt pattern etc. and they make it for you. And they are pretty darn light too.

Les

I'm hearing under 20lbs. per wheel, does that sound correct?

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 11:12 PM
I'm hearing under 20lbs. per wheel, does that sound correct?

19lbs is what I was told from Forgestar directly.

NYC_SRT8
03-20-2011, 11:12 PM
OK for a minute there I thought I had missed something. Good thing I am already doing laundry. I'll just throw my underpants into the wash right now :D


:1puke:

lmhoward
03-21-2011, 12:57 PM
According to my bathroom scale the 18x9's are 20 lbs. and the 18x10's 23 lbs. which includes the lugs and valve stem. I wish I had a calibrated scale to know for sure.

Les

MattRobertson
03-21-2011, 01:07 PM
OK so I talked to Forgestar today and for once I didn't hear any hemming and hawwing once the guy got wind of exactly what application I wanted to put these wheels to.

They actually race on Laguna Seca themselves and the guy I spoke to knew the track. I was able to give him my Turn 6 nightmare scenario: the car bottoms the suspension hard on the dished-out apex as it slams all of its weight on the two outer wheels, at 60-80 mph. He was still comfortable with it. They are building these wheels with track use in mind for the likes of the GT-R, which is a 4000-lb car. He was also comfortable with the tires coupled to the specific wheel size: 275/35/18 scrubs on an 18x10 wheel.

So that makes me comfortable tracking them.

But wait... there's more:

The above is for the F-14, 14-spoke. What about the CF-5 5-spoke?

Exactly the same story. Exactly the same construction. No issues regarding spoke gap or strength differences. They are effectively the same wheel. And they cost the same. Unless something else comes to light I'm buying these in a 16 offset, 18x10.

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/images/cf5brushed.jpg

NYC_SRT8
03-21-2011, 01:19 PM
OK so I talked to Forgestar today and for once I didn't hear any hemming and hawwing once the guy got wind of exactly what application I wanted to put these wheels to.

They actually race on Laguna Seca themselves and the guy I spoke to knew the track. I was able to give him my Turn 6 nightmare scenario: the car bottoms the suspension hard on the dished-out apex as it slams all of its weight on the two outer wheels, at 60-80 mph. He was still comfortable with it. They are building these wheels with track use in mind for the likes of the GT-R, which is a 4000-lb car. He was also comfortable with the tires coupled to the specific wheel size: 275/35/18 scrubs on an 18x10 wheel.

So that makes me comfortable tracking them.

But wait... there's more:

The above is for the F-14, 14-spoke. What about the CF-5 5-spoke?

Exactly the same story. Exactly the same construction. No issues regarding spoke gap or strength differences. They are effectively the same wheel. And they cost the same. Unless something else comes to light I'm buying these in a 16 offset, 18x10.

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/images/cf5brushed.jpg

Damn it! I really like those. My buddy told me to go to Forgestar website and see what I want. Those were not on the site:sad:. I would have taken them over the f14. Plus you can get them in custom colors for free according to the website CVP33 found.

smoove7410
03-21-2011, 02:16 PM
OK so I talked to Forgestar today and for once I didn't hear any hemming and hawwing once the guy got wind of exactly what application I wanted to put these wheels to.

They actually race on Laguna Seca themselves and the guy I spoke to knew the track. I was able to give him my Turn 6 nightmare scenario: the car bottoms the suspension hard on the dished-out apex as it slams all of its weight on the two outer wheels, at 60-80 mph. He was still comfortable with it. They are building these wheels with track use in mind for the likes of the GT-R, which is a 4000-lb car. He was also comfortable with the tires coupled to the specific wheel size: 275/35/18 scrubs on an 18x10 wheel.

So that makes me comfortable tracking them.

But wait... there's more:

The above is for the F-14, 14-spoke. What about the CF-5 5-spoke?

Exactly the same story. Exactly the same construction. No issues regarding spoke gap or strength differences. They are effectively the same wheel. And they cost the same. Unless something else comes to light I'm buying these in a 16 offset, 18x10.

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/images/cf5brushed.jpg

The CF-5's are sweet. They were debuted at SEMA 2010 on a Mustang. All Forgestar wheels are available in custom colors (shown on website) for no additional cost and they will do even more finishes for an additional cost. The owner of Forgestar also owns Iforged so there is quite a bit of experience there. As for a little history, the F14's were first offered in 19 inches only, followed later by 20 inches. They now offer them in 22's and 18's.......18's were done since his buddy with an E46 M3 wanted track wheels. ;)

CF-5 19s:

http://www.forgestar.com/blog/pics/c63cf52.jpg

CF-5 20s:

http://a.yfrog.com/img610/1484/qvjwq.jpg

F14 18s:

http://www.forgestar.com/blog/pics/f14acg1.jpg

http://www.forgestar.com/blog/pics/f14acg2.jpg

lmhoward
03-21-2011, 03:01 PM
On the back of each rim they have a rating stamp of 1520 lbs. When I ordered the F14's the CF-5 was not available. Both look fantastic and I'm pleased with the F14's.

Les

MattRobertson
03-21-2011, 03:31 PM
On the back of each rim they have a rating stamp of 1520 lbs.

Yeah they also list the rating on their test results. I'm not thrilled with a 1500 lb rating but it seems to be a standard passenger rim rating and these guys have track experience with reasonably heavy cars.


Plus you can get them in custom colors for free

You know, I think I am going to get mine in plain old silver. Partly because a black car with a stainless mesh grille car just plain looks better with silver to me, but partly because...

... well, I was going to buy in gunmetal because that would do a great job of hiding the brake dust. But it would also hide the brake dust *from me*. When I am cleaning corrosive brake dust off of a wheel I want to know where it is and when its gone. With gunmetal or black I could easily miss some and let it sit on the wheel.

As much as I hate the look of a dusty wheel, its better if I can see what it is I have to remove to preserve the thing.

Cibalo
03-21-2011, 05:48 PM
Sorry, I'm talking about 18x10 +22 offset mustang replicas. Forgestar 18x10 +16 you won't need a spacer.
when you say you won't need a spacer is this for mounting on an SRT or 5.7? sorry I got turned around a few pages back.



oh and Matt I like those wheels. Since it will probably be a bit before I hit the track again I might wait and see some reviews before driving in as well.

NYC_SRT8
03-21-2011, 09:31 PM
when you say you won't need a spacer is this for mounting on an SRT or 5.7? sorry I got turned around a few pages back.





You could forget about putting those wheels on a the front of a 5.7. I was talking about lx/lc srt8.

MattRobertson
03-21-2011, 10:46 PM
You could forget about putting those wheels on a the front of a 5.7. I was talking about lx/lc srt8.
The only reason I am going there is because I am having SRT knuckles put on that I have been sitting on for ages. That and extended studs so I can use 3mm or 5mm spacers if need be.

inferno6.1
03-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Holy cow those C63's look friggin HOTTTT

lmhoward
03-23-2011, 07:01 PM
Do you have a tracking number yet? :Na_Na_Na_Na: 2 months is my guess based on my experience (and a Porsche friend and a GTR friend)

Les

NYC_SRT8
03-23-2011, 07:11 PM
Shut it up Les:)


Do you have a tracking number yet? :Na_Na_Na_Na: 2 months is my guess based on my experience (and a Porsche friend and a GTR friend)

Les

lmhoward
03-23-2011, 10:13 PM
I'm sorry bud. I hate that it takes longer than it should to get Forgestars but they rock and that's what really matters. I'll zip it and let you suffer the wait un molested.

Les

NYC_SRT8
03-24-2011, 12:47 PM
I'm sorry bud. I hate that it takes longer than it should to get Forgestars but they rock and that's what really matters. I'll zip it and let you suffer the wait un molested.

Les

No sorry needed. I'm about to send another email today. They said shipping this week...lol

lmhoward
03-28-2011, 09:14 PM
I can't stay quiet for more than a few days at a time. My buddy with the GTR got his last week. (2 months) Tell them you are keeping a journal on a forum and you don't want them to look bad. (I did, I think it got things moving faster)

Les

CVP33
03-28-2011, 09:24 PM
Not placing my order until these are a confirmed fit. I'm sure there will be no issues, but just the same. My staggered replicas arrived today, now off to the machine shop to get the hubs honed out.

NYC_SRT8
03-28-2011, 11:37 PM
I can't stay quiet for more than a few days at a time. My buddy with the GTR got his last week. (2 months) Tell them you are keeping a journal on a forum and you don't want them to look bad. (I did, I think it got things moving faster)

Les

I got no reply from the email I sent on friday. I have a phone number to a person over there...I'm calling tomorrow and tell them about my "forum journal":wink:.

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 05:04 PM
Update!!!!!


They are waiting to get the holes drilled. According to them it's not done in-house. My friend is all over them and even offerred to have his wheel guy drill the holes. The declined because of warranty liability and insurance. Anyway I may have to use my 18x9" mustang wheels for my 1st event (unf-ing believable). 15 days left before the event...:banghead:

On a happy note, I have 4 sets of Continental slicks that are only heat cycled being delivered for $1600 shipped next week.

MattRobertson
04-01-2011, 06:43 PM
damn thats a good price. Take pics of those tires and post em up when they arrive, would ya?

lmhoward
04-01-2011, 06:49 PM
FYI, I told them it was better to tell everyone 2 months and if anything deliver early. I missed an event, had 2 bad events on old bald tires because I expected my new wheels and they were 6 weeks late. I had new tires for the new wheels but they wouldn't fit the stock rims. But, the rims are stunning and light. I absolutely love them. At least you won't miss an event.

Les

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 07:01 PM
damn thats a good price. Take pics of those tires and post em up when they arrive, would ya?

Will do...

CVP33
04-01-2011, 07:54 PM
Time to sell my old wheels.

lmhoward
04-01-2011, 08:51 PM
Forgestar's are going to be soooooo hot on a LX. I can't wait to see them.
NYC_SRT8, with my Forgestars and new tires I improved my best times from 56.6 to 55.6 on a short track and from 1:34.5 to 1:30.5 on a higher speed track. A wider, lighter rim is going to scratch your itch.

Les

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 09:43 PM
FYI, I told them it was better to tell everyone 2 months and if anything deliver early. I missed an event, had 2 bad events on old bald tires because I expected my new wheels and they were 6 weeks late. I had new tires for the new wheels but they wouldn't fit the stock rims. But, the rims are stunning and light. I absolutely love them. At least you won't miss an event.

Les

From purchasing date till they were in your hands how long did it take?


Forgestar's are going to be soooooo hot on a LX. I can't wait to see them.
NYC_SRT8, with my Forgestars and new tires I improved my best times from 56.6 to 55.6 on a short track and from 1:34.5 to 1:30.5 on a higher speed track. A wider, lighter rim is going to scratch your itch.

Les

I know these wheels will "scratch my itch" but the itch may drive me crazy from it not being scratched for so long.

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 09:45 PM
Time to sell my old wheels.


Why? did you get your new mustang wheels?

mjr5150
04-01-2011, 09:48 PM
They make a cream for that Will . Hope you get them in time . Seems that they are jerking you around a bit . Thats unfortunate .








...... but the itch may drive me crazy from it not being scratched for so long.

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 09:52 PM
They make a cream for that Will . Hope you get them in time . Seems that they are jerking you around a bit . Thats unfortunate .

My cream is the wheels Mike. Until then I'll be a itchy bastard. :mrgreen:

mjr5150
04-01-2011, 09:55 PM
Been a long f'n winter bud hasn't it ? I predict big things for you this season dude .

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Been a long f'n winter bud hasn't it ? I predict big things for you this season dude .


I hope you are right.:thumbs_u:

lmhoward
04-01-2011, 10:06 PM
It took mine 2 months from order to delivery. They were promised in 2 weeks. My credit card was charged for the remainder of the cost plus shipping a month before they shipped. I'm getting the picture that they just do business this way and it's a shame. Great wheels, great price, empty promises ....... who knows why they insist on pissing off every client. But I'd buy them again. Only I wouldn't expect them in less than 2 months. It's a right of passage for a Forgestar buyer. Are you worthy?

Les

CVP33
04-01-2011, 10:12 PM
Why? did you get your new mustang wheels?

Yup, dropped them at the machine shop on Thursday.

NYC_SRT8
04-01-2011, 10:16 PM
It took mine 2 months from order to delivery. They were promised in 2 weeks. My credit card was charged for the remainder of the cost plus shipping a month before they shipped. I'm getting the picture that they just do business this way and it's a shame. Great wheels, great price, empty promises ....... who knows why they insist on pissing off every client. But I'd buy them again. Only I wouldn't expect them in less than 2 months. It's a right of passage for a Forgestar buyer. Are you worthy?

Les

Ok, that means I still have hope for it to get here in time. This is going to be a nail biter till the end. Right of passage? What is this, Madagascar 2(those with young children will get this)?lol:mrgreen:

NYC_SRT8
04-06-2011, 06:54 PM
*UPDATE*

I got off the phone with Forgestar a few minutes ago. According to Peter they never drilled a 5x115 bolt pattern and are waiting for their machine shop to get the "template(I forgot the exact term used)". He tells me that he's been on his wheel guy for a week to get it done and that he hopes to have it shipped by Friday. He even threw in there that he knows I have a track event next week. I told him I'll call again on Friday. If the wheels are not drilled by Friday I'll tell him just to ship it. I'll have my friend\distributor for Forgestar drill the wheels at his wheel shop. Hopefully everything pulls through...*sigh*

On a happier note, the continental slicks will be here on friday. I'll post pics later that night.

NYC_SRT8
04-08-2011, 11:58 PM
*Another Update*

I called Forgestar several times today and got no answer. I'm like ****, there goes my chance of having the wheels for the next Saturday. After getting home I had a very nice suprise. 16 Continental Scrubs were in my living room(yaaaaaaaah!). While inspecting it the tires my friend called and tells me that Forgestar called him few minutes ago. They said that they finally got the "program" to cut the 5x115 bolt pattern. According to my friend they should ship Monday or Tuesday. To play it safe 3 day delivery will be used. The Saga continues...

gooeytek
04-09-2011, 12:15 AM
yay for tires !

Bailman
04-09-2011, 07:24 AM
Cool. I can't wait to see those in person, Will.

lmhoward
04-09-2011, 08:15 AM
It looks like your in the home stretch. I went with the 3 day delivery too ...... and I hoped they would pick up the extra shipping after the delay. But it didn't happen. I got my wheels on a Thursday, the lugs on Friday and was racing on the weekend. Are you worried about your measuring proficiency? I was ____ing in my pants wondering if they were going to rub somewhere. (just messing with your mind) Here's wishing for an exceptional outcome and track day. Do you mind telling me where your getting the scrubs?

Les

NYC_SRT8
04-09-2011, 09:25 AM
It looks like your in the home stretch. I went with the 3 day delivery too ...... and I hoped they would pick up the extra shipping after the delay. But it didn't happen. I got my wheels on a Thursday, the lugs on Friday and was racing on the weekend. Are you worried about your measuring proficiency? I was ____ing in my pants wondering if they were going to rub somewhere. (just messing with your mind) Here's wishing for an exceptional outcome and track day. Do you mind telling me where your getting the scrubs?

Les

I would put money on it that they won't pick up the shipping. Shoot, they won't even pick up their phone.:)

Lugs? They didn't send lugs with the wheels?

I'm not worried about measuring at all. My math is pretty good, atleast it was in college.

I'll shoot you a PM about the scrubs.

CTRaider
04-09-2011, 10:06 AM
Can't wait to see those long awaited wheels at Lime Rock. From all of the research and measuring you did, I'm sure you'll be thrilled with them. Will you be giving out cigars once your new babies arrive? j/k

CVP33
04-09-2011, 11:18 AM
Not pulling the trigga until I see yours mounted and hear your reviews. Then I will scramble to order so I too can wait over 2 months for wheels. :banghead:

MattRobertson
04-09-2011, 03:41 PM
Yeah I have so much BS going on with my car, there's no harm in me waiting either. I still have to get the smog issues worked out, the suspension upgraded and then get slotted in at the shop for the cage installation. I want all that stuff worked out before I blow even more money on this damn car. grrr. Plus it will give me time to hear the hands-on reviews. I've decided to go with the same wheels and not jump to the 5-spokes. I like the idea of more distributed support, although the wheel mfr told me it makes no difference.

lmhoward
04-09-2011, 03:51 PM
Heavy cars have been using these wheels for a while now. The GTR track rats, the C63AMG track rats and a SRT-6 track rat with no problems. (knock wood) I've observed that the brushed titanium gets dirty and water spots easily. Gunmetal or piano black may be a better choice if you don't enjoy washing the rims all the time.

Mine came sans lugs but I had specified that I wanted them so they overnighted a set to me at no charge. I wouldn't take a chance, give them a call and make sure. You can buy them anywhere but if your like me I'd want matching lugs meant to go with the rims.

Les

Edit: I got the PM, thanks!

smoove7410
04-09-2011, 04:37 PM
^Add c5 camaro's to that list also.

MattRobertson
04-09-2011, 05:07 PM
Heavy cars have been using these wheels for a while now.
After talking to Forgestar at length I have no worries with regard to vehicle weight. The only question would be 'do they fit with our magic slicks on?' We all know they oughtta almost certainly. Its the almost that makes me not feel bad about waiting for my other issues to clear up. I'm gonna buy six of them so it'll be two grand or thereabouts, so if I can hold that off, not such a bad thing.

NYC_SRT8
04-09-2011, 05:07 PM
Can't wait to see those long awaited wheels at Lime Rock. From all of the research and measuring you did, I'm sure you'll be thrilled with them. Will you be giving out cigars once your new babies arrive? j/k

Yes, cigars for everyone...:mrgreen:


Heavy cars have been using these wheels for a while now. The GTR track rats, the C63AMG track rats and a SRT-6 track rat with no problems. (knock wood) I've observed that the brushed titanium gets dirty and water spots easily. Gunmetal or piano black may be a better choice if you don't enjoy washing the rims all the time.

Mine came sans lugs but I had specified that I wanted them so they overnighted a set to me at no charge. I wouldn't take a chance, give them a call and make sure. You can buy them anywhere but if your like me I'd want matching lugs meant to go with the rims.

Les

Edit: I got the PM, thanks!

Thanks for the heads up.

NYC_SRT8
04-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Pics of the Continental scrubs... http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?p=3512626#post3512626

09 Plym
04-12-2011, 08:19 PM
I got my first set of Continental slicks a few months ago. I am nervous about the short height. I will make my first outing with a stiff spring setup (550/450) and am planning on 3" of road clearance to give some room for travel until I get a feel for the clearance and travel.

Do you have any feel for what ground clearance or spring rates you are going to start with?

CVP33
04-12-2011, 08:29 PM
It's low, but it ain't that low.

http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc382/cvp33/?action=view&current=IMG00110-20101205-1039.jpg

NYC_SRT8
04-13-2011, 08:17 AM
I got my first set of Continental slicks a few months ago. I am nervous about the short height. I will make my first outing with a stiff spring setup (550/450) and am planning on 3" of road clearance to give some room for travel until I get a feel for the clearance and travel.

Do you have any feel for what ground clearance or spring rates you are going to start with?

Your spring rates are not as stiff as my setup. I'm currently 674/787. I haven't measured my ground clearance with the conti's on but on stock 20's I'm about a inch and a half lower than stock. The conti's are about 3 inches shorter than the Vred's I run on the street so I'd say I'm around 4.5 inches shorter than a stock srt with factory tires when in my track set up.

NYC_SRT8
04-13-2011, 08:27 AM
~FINAL UPDATE~

The wheel are still not drilled so I won't have them for my 1st track event *sigh*. However, it's suppose to rain on Saturday so I won't be able to run slicks anyway. Hopefully they will be in for my next event on May 10th. I've search the net and these wheels are legit but the wait is insane. The excuses they use are even worst. The wait continues...

CTRaider
04-13-2011, 10:22 AM
~FINAL UPDATE~

The wheel are still not drilled so I won't have them for my 1st track event *sigh*. However, it's suppose to rain on Saturday so I won't be able to run slicks anyway. Hopefully they will be in for my next event on May 10th. I've search the net and these wheels are legit but the wait is insane. The excuses they use are even worst. The wait continues...

Sorry to hear Will. I just got some 18 x 10 Cobras with Conti slicks with CT-MSRT's help last night and I'll be trying them out Monday at Lime Rock. It looks like 55 and partly sunny. Any chance you can get under their decibel limit and show up?

NYC_SRT8
04-13-2011, 12:58 PM
Sorry to hear Will. I just got some 18 x 10 Cobras with Conti slicks with CT-MSRT's help last night and I'll be trying them out Monday at Lime Rock. It looks like 55 and partly sunny. Any chance you can get under their decibel limit and show up?

Been there, done that! I'm waaaaaay over the decibel limits. I'll wait for the unmuffled event with a smile instead going through that noise restriction nonsense again. Make sure you have at least 1/4" spacer for the fronts. Without it the wheel will not clear.

Good luck on Monday!

CTRaider
04-13-2011, 02:39 PM
Been there, done that! I'm waaaaaay over the decibel limits. I'll wait for the unmuffled event with a smile instead going through that noise restriction nonsense again. Make sure you have at least 1/4" spacer for the fronts. Without it the wheel will not clear.

Good luck on Monday!

Will do. I just tried them with a 3mm spacer and it only clears by 1/8". Time to get a couple of 5mm and longer studs. :modding:

NYC_SRT8
04-19-2011, 12:38 PM
*Another update*

I spoke to my friend/distributor last night and Forgestar told him all sorts of nonsense. 1st, they don't have the program to cut the 5x115 bolt pattern even after telling me over 2 weeks ago they do. What the hell is so hard in plugging in a parameter into a computer? It's not like someone is drilling it by hand. It's a f'ing machine. 2nd, they said they are scared of scratching the finish when driling because they have the 5x115 program for there forged 3 piece but not the flow form wheels. I know nothing about making wheels but I know lots about computer(my bread and butter) and this sounds like a lie to cover something up. Anyway, I called my friend today and told him to have them cut is in 114.3x5 pattern since I run that now without any issue. My friend tells me thats a common pattern and he's pretty sure they can do that asap but I'll have to take "responsibility". I said I asked them to ship the wheel blank so you can cut it but they won't because it will be there "responsibility" if something happens to the wheel. This is turning into a nightmare. My friend even asked if I'm willing to cancel the order. I'm waiting on the reply from forgestar about cutting the 114.3 bolt pattern. I'm starting to look for other wheels now.

I ask a favor of you guys on the forum. If you could call forgestar and ask them if they can make f14 wheels for our car (bolt pattern 5x115) and how long it will take from time of purchase. I'd love to hear there responce.

Their phone number is (714) 826-8249


Thanks in advance

xevilpetex
04-19-2011, 12:44 PM
*Another update*

I spoke to my friend/distributor last night and Forgestar told him all sorts of nonsense. 1st, they don't have the program to cut the 5x115 bolt pattern even after telling me over 2 weeks ago they do. What the hell is so hard in plugging in a parameter into a computer? It's not like someone is drilling it by hand. It's a f'ing machine. 2nd, they said they are scared of scratching the finish when driling because they have the 5x115 program for there forged 3 piece but not the flow form wheels. I know nothing about making wheels but I know lots about computer(my bread and butter) and this sounds like a lie to cover something up. Anyway, I called my friend today and told him to have them cut is in 114.3x5 pattern since I run that now without any issue. My friend tells me thats a common pattern and he's pretty sure they can do that asap but I'll have to take "responsibility". I said I asked them to ship the wheel blank so you can cut it but they won't because it will be there "responsibility" if something happens to the wheel. This is turning into a nightmare. My friend even asked if I'm willing to cancel the order. I'm waiting on the reply from forgestar about cutting the 114.3 bolt pattern. I'm starting to look for other wheels now.

want to buy my RPF1's at the end of the season? ;)

NYC_SRT8
04-19-2011, 12:45 PM
want to buy my RPF1's at the end of the season? ;)

I want a square set up (18x10). Thanks for the offer Pete!

CT-MSRT
04-19-2011, 12:50 PM
seriously, some real BS there.

any shop who has a CNC or even a couple of bridgeport's can handle that in minutes. They already have fixtures to hold the parts being that it is a WHEEL MANUFACTURER... You could program something that simple at the machine. Hell, find out what kind of machine and the basic dimensions and i can write the g-code for the stupid thing. Very sad how they let the ball drop on you on this one.

MattRobertson
04-19-2011, 01:04 PM
Their phone number is (714) 826-8249

just tried calling. Line is busy.

:-)

MattRobertson
04-19-2011, 01:23 PM
still busy. is that us doing that?

lmhoward
04-19-2011, 02:24 PM
I hate that this is happening to you, but it's happened to some degree to everyone that has ordered from Forgestar. My wait was a nightmare too, but if I could swap them for something else I don't think I would. They make a good looking, good quality and reasonably priced wheel. It's the deception that pisses everyone off. They over promise and can't deliver on time.

My buddy with the GTR called to cancel his order and they shipped the next day ...... could be worth a try.

Les

CVP33
04-19-2011, 05:54 PM
I hate that this is happening to you, but it's happened to some degree to everyone that has ordered from Forgestar. My wait was a nightmare too, but if I could swap them for something else I don't think I would. They make a good looking, good quality and reasonably priced wheel. It's the deception that pisses everyone off. They over promise and can't deliver on time.

My buddy with the GTR called to cancel his order and they shipped the next day ...... could be worth a try.

Les

No one minds a wait. Tell us it'll take 3 months and we'll make the decision then and there. The rub is the BS answers. It's insulting and a customer deserves better.

NYC_SRT8
04-20-2011, 06:59 PM
still busy. is that us doing that?

Thanks Matt.


I hate that this is happening to you, but it's happened to some degree to everyone that has ordered from Forgestar. My wait was a nightmare too, but if I could swap them for something else I don't think I would. They make a good looking, good quality and reasonably priced wheel. It's the deception that pisses everyone off. They over promise and can't deliver on time.

My buddy with the GTR called to cancel his order and they shipped the next day ...... could be worth a try.

Les




No one minds a wait. Tell us it'll take 3 months and we'll make the decision then and there. The rub is the BS answers. It's insulting and a customer deserves better.

I called my friend and he has no update so I tried calling Forgestar and of course they don't answer the phone. So I sent a email with everything that happened from time of purchase. I even asked since 5x115 is a "mystical" pattern to cut how about 5x114.3. I've had enough and if the wheels are not shipped by this Friday I'm cancelling my order and looking else where. This friday will make 9 weeks, enough is enough. Even if it costs me a more for some other wheels I'd rather not deal with the lies.

Cibalo
04-20-2011, 08:10 PM
sorry to hear about this Will. maybe it's time to pay them a personal visit?

MattRobertson
04-20-2011, 10:06 PM
if they've suddenly stopped answering the phone that could be a sign of an entirely different problem.

NYC_SRT8
04-20-2011, 10:28 PM
if they've suddenly stopped answering the phone that could be a sign of an entirely different problem.

My friend is telling me he is getting wheels from them and even put in a order for 7 more wheels last week. I'm not sure what's the deal with mine.

Super Bee 555
04-20-2011, 11:37 PM
Could be smoke and mirrors from your friend, e tu Brutis

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 08:48 AM
Could be smoke and mirrors from your friend, e tu Brutis


I really hope not. He's been a friend for years and someone I trust.

Anyway I'm giving CCW a call today. They have a really nice race wheel for $2300 for a set. I'll see what they have to say. If it sounds good my order with forgestar will be cancelled today. It's a grand more but well worth it since I won't be dealing with the lies.

lmhoward
04-21-2011, 09:16 AM
I ordered mine through ACG in San Diego and went through the same BS so it's not your friends fault. I gave them my advice after I received my wheels about being up front with delivery dates. I guess my voice wasn't loud enough. But they are killer wheels.

Les

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 11:17 AM
Howard what is the bolt pattern on your wheels?

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 11:22 AM
Anyway I'm giving CCW a call today. They have a really nice race wheel for $2300 for a set. I'll see what they have to say. If it sounds good my order with forgestar will be cancelled today. It's a grand more but well worth it since I won't be dealing with the lies.
I talked to the owner of CCW, who owns a Challenger R/T. He told me the only wheel they sell that can safely handle a raced LX is the C14, which at $700 each comes out to $2800 for just four, before you get to any kind of finish on them.

If you are talking about the Classics, which would be $2300 and are in use all over the place, I was told they won't fit.

CT-MSRT
04-21-2011, 11:23 AM
there are other options......

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 11:45 AM
there are other options......

?

:-)

smoove7410
04-21-2011, 12:47 PM
Your friend is on the up and up. A huge issue since Forgestar started selling wheels a year ago has been turn around time and communication. They used to quote 3 weeks.......that turns into 5 months. They are great wheels though, when you actually get them.

CT-MSRT
04-21-2011, 12:50 PM
Your friend is on the up and up. A huge issue since Forgestar started selling wheels a year ago has been turn around time and communication. They used to quote 3 weeks.......that turns into 5 months. They are great wheels though, when you actually get them.


I guess by that standard Will, there is always next season right? Just put some sheets on that stack of tires you bought and use them as furniture to keep them warm over next winter. :P

xevilpetex
04-21-2011, 12:55 PM
I talked to the owner of CCW, who owns a Challenger R/T. He told me the only wheel they sell that can safely handle a raced LX is the C14, which at $700 each comes out to $2800 for just four, before you get to any kind of finish on them.

If you are talking about the Classics, which would be $2300 and are in use all over the place, I was told they won't fit.

The classics wont fit because they cant accomidate big brakes. A lot of the T1 vette guys that had been running the classics ended up having to buy new wheels when the new rule allowing them to run larger calipers (to help them keep up with the F430's) came down last season.

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 12:59 PM
I talked to the owner of CCW, who owns a Challenger R/T. He told me the only wheel they sell that can safely handle a raced LX is the C14, which at $700 each comes out to $2800 for just four, before you get to any kind of finish on them.

If you are talking about the Classics, which would be $2300 and are in use all over the place, I was told they won't fit.

I spoke to them today. You are right Classics won't clear the caliper. I'm looking at the C10. To anodize them black it's $25 extra a wheel. $2900 total. I'm waiting for them to call me back. They said 3 weeks till I have it if I order today. It probably won't make my next event but it should be in right after it.

Those guys are very knowledgable over a CCW. I told him I was running Continental Series slicks and he said " Those not slicks but a old Hoosier compound ( i forgot what model he said, I'll ask when he calls back)". He also said they are not very fast but are fairly cheap. I said they are fast enough for me:mrgreen:

Anyway 18x10 +15 and 19.xlbs per wheel. :rock:

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 01:04 PM
there are other options......

Give me some names please?

CT-MSRT
04-21-2011, 01:22 PM
?

:-)

working on an into group buy for these. They have other designs but this is the only one i am concerned with due to it's strength. The guy is a Jeep SRT guy and understands our weight issues. They aren't cheap but i think an initial group buy could net us some competitive price against the other brands.

http://www.autobahnpower.com/images/Fikseprofil5.jpg

lmhoward
04-21-2011, 02:02 PM
Howard what is the bolt pattern on your wheels?

Mine are 5x112. Offsets are 30 on the front and 25 on the rear. Remember, my car is the son of the failed marriage with Benz. I get no love from either.

Les

gooeytek
04-21-2011, 02:38 PM
The RPF1 setup Pete is using would be an option.

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 03:02 PM
Not in my book. Pete and I have a longstanding and acrimonious dispute over that. I've done a lot of looking into that option, including talking to Enkei. The weakness I see in the Enkeis is specifically addressed in the F 14's, just as it is in the CCW C14's.

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 04:50 PM
Not in my book. Pete and I have a longstanding and acrimonious dispute over that. I've done a lot of looking into that option, including talking to Enkei. The weakness I see in the Enkeis is specifically addressed in the F 14's, just as it is in the CCW C14's.

I just ordered CCW C10 in anodized black. They are putting together the work order now and it should be in my email by this evening. It was a pleasure speaking with them on the phone. They are very knowledgable, all my questions were answered down to parade detail. 3 weeks till they will finish so I won't have them for my next track event. It's ok though, at least I'll have them minus the BS and lies. Should I jinx myself a start a new wheel thread???lol

http://www.ccwheel.com/img/wheel%20profiles/display/wheels/C10/photo_full_1.jpg




AnodizedShot Bright Black*
AnodizedShot Bright Black*

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Update from Forgestar.

They said the wheels will be drilled and shipped tomorrow. lmfao... I won't hold my breath.

xevilpetex
04-21-2011, 05:08 PM
I just ordered CCW C10 in anodized black. They are putting together the work order now and it should be in my email by this evening. It was a pleasure speaking with them on the phone. They are very knowledgable, all my questions were answered down to parade detail. 3 weeks till they will finish so I won't have them for my next track event. It's ok though, at least I'll have them minus the BS and lies. Should I jinx myself a start a new wheel thread???lol

http://www.ccwheel.com/img/wheel%20profiles/display/wheels/C10/photo_full_1.jpg




AnodizedShot Bright Black*
AnodizedShot Bright Black*

FYI ive heard of some stories of CCW taking forever to deliver wheels before too.

Good luck

lmhoward
04-21-2011, 05:11 PM
So are you getting 2 sets of track wheels now? Whose are you going to cancel?

Les

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 05:58 PM
IF the Forgestars get cancelled, I'm already 1st in line for them :-). Talked to Will's shop this morning. They were straight shooters I have to say. Was impressed by that.

x2 on CCW playing fast and loose with delivery dates. Has happened to people on this board. But they are awesome wheels. I just can't go 3 grand for 6 wheels.

lmhoward
04-21-2011, 07:29 PM
Man thats sneaky! Let someone else do the waiting and then get them in a week. What happens if NYC_SRT8 likes his wheels on your car better than his second choice wheels on his?

Les

BOYCHIKS
04-21-2011, 07:35 PM
Those are HOTT

MattRobertson
04-21-2011, 08:12 PM
Man thats sneaky! Let someone else do the waiting and then get them in a week. What happens if NYC_SRT8 likes his wheels on your car better than his second choice wheels on his?
No matter what he gets first pick of what he wants to do. After he decides, I get a turn at bat. No question I appreciate the opportunity to not wait in line, but since I need six wheels this is going to be a wait for me at least to some degree no matter what.

The bummer part for me is I wanted the silver. I dig contrasts when it comes to wheels. But given the choice between guaranteeing I will have no track season until the fall - going on two solid years off - and having a shot at a few days in warm weather... I'll take it. Remember I still don't have my freaking car.

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 10:12 PM
So are you getting 2 sets of track wheels now? Whose are you going to cancel?

Les



Man thats sneaky! Let someone else do the waiting and then get them in a week. What happens if NYC_SRT8 likes his wheels on your car better than his second choice wheels on his?


Les

If the wheels ship tomorrow I'll take the forgestar and cancel the CCW. There is no question about it, The F14 is a way better looking wheel. But these are not for show so I'll be willing to loose some "prettiness". However, I have a strong feeling they won't be drilled let alone shipped tomorrow. All my faith with Forgestar is out the window.

NYC_SRT8
04-21-2011, 10:21 PM
FYI ive heard of some stories of CCW taking forever to deliver wheels before too.

Good luck


IF the Forgestars get cancelled, I'm already 1st in line for them :-). Talked to Will's shop this morning. They were straight shooters I have to say. Was impressed by that.

x2 on CCW playing fast and loose with delivery dates. Has happened to people on this board. But they are awesome wheels. I just can't go 3 grand for 6 wheels.

If they turn out to be just like Forgestar I will give up on custom wheels and go the 18x10 Saleen replicas, longer wheel studs, 1/4 spacer and call it a day.

CVP33
04-22-2011, 06:57 AM
I'm glad you posted all of this. So here are the proper steps to ordering from Forgestar:

1) Call the direct line and they won't answer
2) Send your order via email.
3) Call again to cofirm your order and bolt pattern and of course they won't answer
4) Repeat calling until you get through, this may take up to one month
5) Once you get through, cancel your order to help speed up the process
6) Continue calling, canceling, explaining and arguing with a company holding $1,400 of your hard earned dollars

There must be a better way!:doh::doh::doh:

MattRobertson
04-22-2011, 10:26 AM
If Chrysler had used a 'slightly' different bolt pattern, there would be.

I'm just sayin'... how many times have we run into the 'not available in 5x115' issue when we've seen wheels we like?

MikahB
04-22-2011, 10:28 AM
I'll be interested to see how the CCW's work out for you - I had some conversations with them and they didn't seem to have anything that was an obvious fit for our car. I've run their wheels in the past and they are good quality stuff.

We ended up ordering some custom HRE 1-piece forged wheels to our specs, I'll share pics when they come in. They are definitely not cheap, but they are the strongest, lightest option out there and great guys to work with.

FWIW, the FR500C 18x10 cast wheels from OEM Wheels in FL worked well on our test mule car with a 0.25" spacer. Hard to beat at $600/set and in stock.

Cibalo
04-22-2011, 10:44 AM
I'll be interested to see how the CCW's work out for you - I had some conversations with them and they didn't seem to have anything that was an obvious fit for our car. I've run their wheels in the past and they are good quality stuff.

We ended up ordering some custom HRE 1-piece forged wheels to our specs, I'll share pics when they come in. They are definitely not cheap, but they are the strongest, lightest option out there and great guys to work with.

FWIW, the FR500C 18x10 cast wheels from OEM Wheels in FL worked well on our test mule car with a 0.25" spacer. Hard to beat at $600/set and in stock.
Mikah, did you use some longer studs when you ran the .25" spacer? $600/set seems like a pretty good deal for those that only hit the track a few times a year

MikahB
04-22-2011, 11:49 AM
Mikah, did you use some longer studs when you ran the .25" spacer? $600/set seems like a pretty good deal for those that only hit the track a few times a year

Yes, you'll need an extra 10mm or so of stud length - we used the GM truck studs. I don't have the part # handy, but I can get it if you guys need/want it.

It is a pretty tough deal to beat - the wheels aren't even bad looking and are about 23 lbs each.

MattRobertson
04-22-2011, 11:56 AM
Yeah but can you put on standard wheels without spacers with studs that long? You had a dedicated race car that went on a trailer, right? We have to go back to stock to drive home.

I actually already have hub-centric .25" spacers. Got 'em from Billet Technology. They are freaking gorgeous bits. I keep one in the car so my spare can clear the big brakes.

MikahB
04-22-2011, 12:03 PM
Yeah but can you put on standard wheels without spacers with studs that long? You had a dedicated race car that went on a trailer, right? We have to go back to stock to drive home.

I actually already have hub-centric .25" spacers. Got 'em from Billet Technology. They are freaking gorgeous bits. I keep one in the car so my spare can clear the big brakes.

Hey Matt - you mean with a closed end lugnut? We did swap both the track and OEM (20") wheels on without any trouble, can't see what the issue would be other than if you were trying to run a closed lugnut - then you would probably have an issue. The studs we used have the same shoulder diameter/length so they're all threads past the hub.

MattRobertson
04-22-2011, 12:20 PM
Yeah closed lug. I have open-ended lug nuts myself and sometimes I leave them on for street use but I can pretty much bet hardly anyone else does. Just something for people to think about.

Where specifically did you get those FR500C wheels? FordRacing.com doesn't have their deal going anymore (and from what I can see they were 18x9's). I'm getting generic stuff looking for 'OEM Wheels Florida' and combinations with Ford in it.

Ford Racing still sells FR500C wheels but they are $900 a pop. They do have a GT wheel deal going for $599 but those are 18x9.5's.

gooeytek
04-22-2011, 12:42 PM
this is where I ordered my 18x10 saleen replica wheels from, and this is their FR500 page:
http://www.oewheelsllc.com/Mustang-Replica-Wheels/By-Style/FR500/tc304390-3-1//page/1/checkForLanding/true

I just called and told them that I wanted 4 18x10's and they made up a package for me that came out to $560 shipped for the set. Hub bores need to be opened up with a flap sander from 70.-something to 71.5mm, pretty easy to do. I am using 25mm wheel adapters from H&R for the fronts, to clear the spindle and big brakes on my RT.

lmhoward
04-22-2011, 05:04 PM
I hope they ship on Friday for you. I'm telling you that every man that sees mine goes orgasmic. I think I've sold a dozen sets in the last few weeks (and made wives suffer a night without sex). Yes, I'm truthful and warn them about the wait and miss information. Good luck with which ever you end up with.

Les

MikahB
04-22-2011, 07:59 PM
Yeah closed lug. I have open-ended lug nuts myself and sometimes I leave them on for street use but I can pretty much bet hardly anyone else does. Just something for people to think about.

Where specifically did you get those FR500C wheels? FordRacing.com doesn't have their deal going anymore (and from what I can see they were 18x9's). I'm getting generic stuff looking for 'OEM Wheels Florida' and combinations with Ford in it.

Ford Racing still sells FR500C wheels but they are $900 a pop. They do have a GT wheel deal going for $599 but those are 18x9.5's.

Gooeytek has the wheel source above - here is a link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-x10-FR500-style-wheels-rims-fit-Mustang-R-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5ae01ccb16QQitemZ39030 7040022QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries)to the right wheel on their ebay page. I did the same thing - called them and had them send me a 4/18x10 package with free shipping - can't beat that!

You're right on lugnuts - not the kind of thing that would normally cross my mind. I know Gorilla makes some extra long closed lugnuts to cover longer studs, not sure if they have exactly the right thing to work for this applicaiton.

NYC_SRT8
04-22-2011, 08:32 PM
I hope they ship on Friday for you. I'm telling you that every man that sees mine goes orgasmic. I think I've sold a dozen sets in the last few weeks (and made wives suffer a night without sex). Yes, I'm truthful and warn them about the wait and miss information. Good luck with which ever you end up with.

Les

*update*

Finally some good news from Forgestar. They have shipped, well not exactly. I called them at 5pm and they picked up the phone, SHOCKING! I said "It's Will who bought the wheels though D2autosport, did my wheels ship?" He said "he's waiting for D2autosport to send the Fedex to pick them up." I confirmed with D2autosport and they were kind of busy and wasn't able to put the fedex work order in before he left for the day. Said he'll do it Monday morning and I'll have it the follow Monday. Yaaaaaay!

On a side note, CCW never sent the work order so I guess they dropped the ball.

CT-MSRT
04-25-2011, 01:19 PM
*update*

Finally some good news from Forgestar. They have shipped, well not exactly. I called them at 5pm and they picked up the phone, SHOCKING! I said "It's Will who bought the wheels though D2autosport, did my wheels ship?" He said "he's waiting for D2autosport to send the Fedex to pick them up." I confirmed with D2autosport and they were kind of busy and wasn't able to put the fedex work order in before he left for the day. Said he'll do it Monday morning and I'll have it the follow Monday. Yaaaaaay!

On a side note, CCW never sent the work order so I guess they dropped the ball.

isn't modern business a picture of efficiency?

oh, and Will; I ran into a older mustang that wants to see if you can keep up with him on the unmuffled day. Bring a camera, it should be fun.

MattRobertson
04-25-2011, 01:56 PM
Well hot damn! Conga rats! so does this mean D2 can get the wheels again? I don't need any now as you know, but not so far down the road...

NYC_SRT8
04-25-2011, 02:21 PM
isn't modern business a picture of efficiency?

oh, and Will; I ran into a older mustang that wants to see if you can keep up with him on the unmuffled day. Bring a camera, it should be fun.

Are you talking about your buddy with the black mustang? Is he in intermediate 2? I'll have the same GoPro I had at Lightning a few weeks ago. Are you coming?


Well hot damn! Conga rats! so does this mean D2 can get the wheels again? I don't need any now as you know, but not so far down the road...

D2 can put in the order. That's not a problem. According to them they put in seven orders two weeks ago. I know the owners for a long time. They are two stand up guys. The problem lies in Forgestar delivering. Now that they have cut 5x115 on a flow-form wheel they have no more excuses. However, I'm sure when you and CVP33 order I'll see a thread with the same empty promises.

CT-MSRT
04-25-2011, 02:27 PM
Are you talking about your buddy with the black mustang? Is he in intermediate 2? I'll have the same GoPro I had at Lightning a few weeks ago. Are you coming?



lol nope. red mustang 5.0 (chassis). This thing will slap you sideways, but it should be fun watching you try and keep up though. Met the guy at the track a few weeks ago when i went up with CTRaider. I probably won't be there since i don't want to eat any vacation. I am staying off the track with the Magnum this year anyway. My main point was, don't block and get your arm ready when he comes up behind you. you can't stay in front of ~600hp and 3000lbs and think you are actually out running him :P

NYC_SRT8
04-25-2011, 02:49 PM
lol nope. red mustang 5.0 (chassis). This thing will slap you sideways, but it should be fun watching you try and keep up though. Met the guy at the track a few weeks ago when i went up with CTRaider. I probably won't be there since i don't want to eat any vacation. I am staying off the track with the Magnum this year anyway. My main point was, don't block and get your arm ready when he comes up behind you. you can't stay in front of ~600hp and 3000lbs and think you are actually out running him :P


Give me a fair fight will ya. Remember I drive a 4 door family sedan:).

CTRaider
04-25-2011, 02:50 PM
lol nope. red mustang 5.0 (chassis). This thing will slap you sideways, but it should be fun watching you try and keep up though. Met the guy at the track a few weeks ago when i went up with CTRaider. I probably won't be there since i don't want to eat any vacation. I am staying off the track with the Magnum this year anyway. My main point was, don't block and get your arm ready when he comes up behind you. you can't stay in front of ~600hp and 3000lbs and think you are actually out running him :P

I was tempted to give Will a more accurate description than "older Mustang" when I saw your post. That thing is a rocket and the driver knows his way around. Real nice guy though. Loves what Mopar has been doing with our cars.

Tdola
04-25-2011, 02:54 PM
Pedders Stuff (minus the coil overs...he's got those already-BCR's) and a 426 stuffed into Wills car and then will he have a chance?
:spock:

CT-MSRT
04-25-2011, 03:40 PM
Pedders Stuff (minus the coil overs...he's got those already-BCR's) and a 426 stuffed into Wills car and then will he have a chance?
:spock:

lol, nope. All the power in the world can't outdo weight.

6nxTrQABbxM

i threw my gopro in his car facing backwards to see how quickly he blew past other cars when given the opportunity.

NYC_SRT8
04-25-2011, 07:04 PM
GEEZUS! You want to put a all out race car against me. How nice of you...lol

Tdola
04-25-2011, 07:07 PM
I thought as a Road Racer extraordinaire!!! you would flip your car in to a tree before you backed down to a challenge. I guess the Aussie snipped your ball sack :mrgreen:

NYC_SRT8
04-25-2011, 07:13 PM
I thought as a Road Racer extraordinaire!!! you would flip your car in to a tree before you backed down to a challenge. I guess the Aussie snipped your ball sack :mrgreen:

Yes, I'm a road racer but I not a fool. A man have to know his limits. And I'm not you Tom. I wear the pants at home...:mrgreen:

Tdola
04-25-2011, 07:22 PM
A wise man once said, "A man who says he wears the pants at home wears no pants at all".

CTRaider
04-25-2011, 10:02 PM
That Jeep SRT8 must have been surprised to see the Mustang blow by him on his left on the back straight at 8:57. That could have got ugly.

gooeytek
04-26-2011, 02:15 AM
It'd be fair if the race was between cars that were driven to the track, and not trailered. That being said, I didn't see much that weekend at NJMP that could keep up in the same class, much less outpace, that red 300. Not to sound like a nutswinger, but Will's lap times when he got the football were within half a second of that from an instructor-driven Z06 that was trailered to get there. I wouldn't count him out too quickly. Give 'em hell Will!

NYC_SRT8
04-26-2011, 01:31 PM
The wheels are at my friend's shop! They arrived this morning. D2 made a mistake and overnighted them. I'm sending my girlfriend will pick them up for me in a little bit. It's been a long journey, better yet it's been a soap opera dealing with Forgestar. But from what I heard it's worth the wait. Pics will be up later tonight from in my livingroom and pics of them mounted on without tires to follow this weekend.

CT-MSRT
04-26-2011, 01:33 PM
The wheels are at my friend's shop! They arrived this morning. D2 made a mistake and overnighted them. I'm sending my girlfriend will pick them up for me in a little bit. It's been a long journey, better yet it's been a soap opera dealing with Forgestar. But from what I heard it's worth the wait. Pics will be up later tonight from in my livingroom and pics of them mounted on without tires to follow this weekend.

finally.

hope they fit....

MattRobertson
04-26-2011, 01:57 PM
x2. I am *really* curious as to the amount of space between the tire and knuckle.

CTRaider
04-26-2011, 03:20 PM
Can I get a Halleluyah? Can't wait to see them on the 10th at Lime Rock.

Cibalo
04-26-2011, 07:15 PM
giggity

NYC_SRT8
04-27-2011, 12:37 AM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4151.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4153.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4155.jpg

1st, the pics don't do them justice. These f'ers are SIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCKKKKKKK!

2nd, They bore the hubs to 74.1mm and send hub centric rings to fit flush with our 71.6 hubs. I guess they do this to save money on machining...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4157.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/DSCF4158.jpg


3rd, The center caps are plastic. I really don't care because I won't be running them anyway. Another thing to skimp on to save money I guess.

4th, Did I say these things are awesome already...lol

5th, They didn't come with metal valve stems. I guess they was expecting I would use factory tire pressure sensors. I don't use them on my track wheels.

I am more than happy with these and as Les said they are worth the wait. Next is for the test fit. I'll do that on saturday.

smoove7410
04-27-2011, 01:01 AM
^Nice. What you said is what everyone who gets them says. It is a biatch to get them, but when you do, you are happy as they are a quality wheel. Hopefully they can turn the delivery times around.

lmhoward
04-27-2011, 06:25 AM
They all come with centering rings. I thought it was strange too. I'm told the plastic ones give a nicer ride on the street but are not really suited for track use. They offered me the pressure monitor valve stems but I don't use them on my track wheels so I found some SSR valve stems for a steal at a local shop. Those center caps are hard to get in. Once in, I couldn't get them out so I left them on at the track. During the 4th track day I lost one so take them off. Those are going to look incredible on the car, I can't wait to see them myself. (I have a 300C too)

Les

CT-MSRT
04-27-2011, 06:43 AM
oooo, pretty.

NYC_SRT8
04-27-2011, 08:58 AM
They all come with centering rings. I thought it was strange too. I'm told the plastic ones give a nicer ride on the street but are not really suited for track use. They offered me the pressure monitor valve stems but I don't use them on my track wheels so I found some SSR valve stems for a steal at a local shop. Those center caps are hard to get in. Once in, I couldn't get them out so I left them on at the track. During the 4th track day I lost one so take them off. Those are going to look incredible on the car, I can't wait to see them myself. (I have a 300C too)

Les

I spoke to my friend at D2 and he's getting me valve stems. Stupid me, he's a wheel distributor and they have there own wheel line (www.d2forged.com ).Of course he'll have assorted valve stems.

I don't think they would look that great on the car in 18" since there is a slight fender gap with the shorter tires. I can only imagine them in 20" though.

NYC_SRT8
04-27-2011, 10:05 AM
Oh, I put them on my scale and they are 21.1lbs. I know it's not 100% accurate since the scale is for the bottom of human feet but it gives a ball park number.

MattRobertson
04-27-2011, 11:33 AM
why? are your feet leaving deposits on the scale that throw the weight off?



:Na_Na_Na_Na:


Serially, those look awesome. I am going for the silver ones to get the contrast look I like, and so I know what spots to clean.

hey why do you guys care about stainless stems? because they are re-usable? A durability concern? I've never done anything besides ye olde cheapo rubbere stem.

gooeytek
04-27-2011, 03:06 PM
that looks sweet !

CT-MSRT
04-27-2011, 03:09 PM
hey why do you guys care about stainless stems? because they are re-usable? A durability concern? I've never done anything besides ye olde cheapo rubbere stem.

not sure with everyone else but due to the pressures we run on the track, i wanted to make sure the stems i personally use are rated to around 50psi or better. I have never once had a failure or issue with a bad stem. I just like the extra safety of a heavy duty stem, they look cool and they don't actually cost me anything difference getting them from the tire place i use locally.

Anyone i get track tires mounted for locally i get them free upgrades to metal stems.

MattRobertson
04-27-2011, 04:07 PM
ok makes sense i'll look into it next time. thx.

NYC_SRT8
04-27-2011, 06:51 PM
why? are your feet leaving deposits on the scale that throw the weight off?



:Na_Na_Na_Na:


Serially, those look awesome. I am going for the silver ones to get the contrast look I like, and so I know what spots to clean.

hey why do you guys care about stainless stems? because they are re-usable? A durability concern? I've never done anything besides ye olde cheapo rubbere stem.


not sure with everyone else but due to the pressures we run on the track, i wanted to make sure the stems i personally use are rated to around 50psi or better. I have never once had a failure or issue with a bad stem. I just like the extra safety of a heavy duty stem, they look cool and they don't actually cost me anything difference getting them from the tire place i use locally.

Anyone i get track tires mounted for locally i get them free upgrades to metal stems.


Matt,

I've never run metal stems in my track wheels before but I always run high pressure rubber valve stems. There max is 80psi versus the standard 65psi. It's a good safety since we can get up to 50psi hot with the slicks. The regular valve stems is to close to the max for me. However, rubber valve stems are just that, rubber. If something was to hit it flush it can tear or even pop out since it's just held in by a rubber ring at the bottom like this...
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/tiretech/TPMS/TPMS-highpress_snapin.jpg

A metal valve stem is the only type that should be used in racing IMO. For one, it's metal and can take a harder hit than rub can dream of. Two, it's good to 200psi. Yes it's over kill but it's nice insurance. Three, instead of being snapped into place like the rubber version they are held into place by screwing down a nut. It's a way more sturdy design and that's what I'll be putting in my new track wheels. Here is a pic of a metal valve stem...

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/tiretech/TPMS/TPMS-mtl_clampin.jpg

You can get a set fairly cheap for $5 on ebay all the way up to $80 for Ray forged aluminum stems. If someone thinks valve stems are worth $80 you buy it. I'll stick with my regular aluminum ones, sturdy and good for 200psi ones.

CVP33
04-27-2011, 06:56 PM
Wow! Just fuggin' wow. Those turned out great man! You gotta be jones-in to get those on!!! Definitely worth the dough, only you can decide if they were worth the wait. And the best part is 6 to 7 lbs. under the stockers.

MattRobertson
04-27-2011, 11:55 PM
Thx Will, I'm sold. I'll troll EBay and get a set.

lmhoward
04-28-2011, 09:17 PM
Come on man! Take a long long lunch break and get those bad boys on the car. I'm getting tired of checking this thread every 20 minutes.

Les

NYC_SRT8
04-28-2011, 09:40 PM
Come on man! Take a long long lunch break and get those bad boys on the car. I'm getting tired of checking this thread every 20 minutes.

Les

This weekend brotha! I need to get tuner lugs too. I tried putting a thin wall socket in and it won't fit. What lugs did you use?

I ordered these today...

http://www.tulipcitywheels.com/tcwstore/catalog/14x1.50-r.h.-extra-long-xl-hex-lug-nuts-truck-tuner-lugs-complete-set--socket-key-chrome-plated-c6109xl-511.html

mjr5150
04-28-2011, 09:57 PM
Awesome Will . Now you know what it's like to give birth . Only worse...( few women will read this thread , i'm good.....lol ) . Friggin' sweet .

lmhoward
04-28-2011, 10:06 PM
This weekend brotha! I need to get tuner lugs too. I tried putting a thin wall socket in and it won't fit. What lugs did you use?

I ordered these today...

http://www.tulipcitywheels.com/tcwstore/catalog/14x1.50-r.h.-extra-long-xl-hex-lug-nuts-truck-tuner-lugs-complete-set--socket-key-chrome-plated-c6109xl-511.html

They sent me the security lugs for free. I had ordered them and when the wheels arrived without lugs I called them. They confirmed that I had requested them and then sent them for free along with the key. I don't think much of Forgestar's customer service but ACG's was, after I cooled down, real good. Lots of SRT-6 racers are now using studs for the ease of swapping wheels. Its worth a thought.

Les

Jontoad
04-28-2011, 10:38 PM
This weekend brotha! I need to get tuner lugs too. I tried putting a thin wall socket in and it won't fit. What lugs did you use?

I ordered these today...

http://www.tulipcitywheels.com/tcwstore/catalog/14x1.50-r.h.-extra-long-xl-hex-lug-nuts-truck-tuner-lugs-complete-set--socket-key-chrome-plated-c6109xl-511.html

as someone in the tire buisness for 10 years i say do not use those lugs. any interior drive tuner lugs suck. the walls of those lugs break away easy before the key and your SOL. use gorilla tuner lugs that grab the outside and order an extra key. worst case scenario with the gorilla sd lugs you break a key. with the lugs you ordered you would have to torch off a stud. i have gorilla sd tuner lugs on both my personal cars.

use the 14x1.5mm sd duplex ones on this page or the sd duplex open ones.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.diameter.lugs.and.locks.page_13

and the 1378 sd key on this page.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.diameter.lugs.and.locks.page_14

NYC_SRT8
04-28-2011, 11:11 PM
as someone in the tire buisness for 10 years i say do not use those lugs. any interior drive tuner lugs suck. the walls of those lugs break away easy before the key and your SOL. use gorilla tuner lugs that grab the outside and order an extra key. worst case scenario with the gorilla sd lugs you break a key. with the lugs you ordered you would have to torch off a stud. i have gorilla sd tuner lugs on both my personal cars.

use the 14x1.5mm sd duplex ones on this page or the sd duplex open ones.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.diameter.lugs.and.locks.page_13

and the 1378 sd key on this page.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.diameter.lugs.and.locks.page_14

Thanks for the heads up. I'll cancel my order tomorrow morning. Gooeytek has some tuner lugs he's not using that he'll give to me.

NYC_SRT8
04-30-2011, 07:22 PM
Here are the well waited for shots...

A tiny bit more than 3/8ths of a inch clearance on from the knuckle.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1682.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1681.jpg

Stoptech ST60 caliper clearance...more than enough!
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1686.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1685.jpg

Almost flush on the outside lip. I know it will tuck under the fender once the suspension is loaded.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1683.jpg

Shot of the tuner lugs. Standard sockets will not fit...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1691.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1690.jpg

Now the money shot...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1689.jpg

I was unable to mount the tires since the metal valve stems didn't arrived. Next Saturday I'll mount the tires and take some more
pics.

MattRobertson
04-30-2011, 07:29 PM
excellent pics. I wonder if a 3mm spacer might not be in order for the front? Just to be absolutely sure the tire wall clears the knuckle?

About those lugs... you think a different lug could work? Looks mighty tight but I have open ended lugs that are small, and thin-wall impact sockets.

As soon as we see the tires clear ... I'm buying.

ylwnana
04-30-2011, 07:39 PM
I have srt knuckle envy.....

NYC_SRT8
04-30-2011, 08:06 PM
excellent pics. I wonder if a 3mm spacer might not be in order for the front? Just to be absolutely sure the tire wall clears the knuckle?

About those lugs... you think a different lug could work? Looks mighty tight but I have open ended lugs that are small, and thin-wall impact sockets.

As soon as we see the tires clear ... I'm buying.


Thin wall sockets won't work. This is a gorilla thin wall socket...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/gorillaLugpic.jpg



I'll put money on it that it has enough clearance with 275 wide tires. The tire will be flush with outer edge of the wheels since it's 18x10. BUT I do have a set of 3mm spacers:). They came in the mail today. I won't need them though.

MattRobertson
04-30-2011, 10:26 PM
Crap. So those lugs are Gorilla lugs? You bought the tuner lugs that Jontoad was talking about?

Bailman
05-01-2011, 08:22 AM
Looks good so far, Will.

Can not wait for the pics when its all together.:thumbs_u:

NYC_SRT8
05-01-2011, 05:48 PM
Crap. So those lugs are Gorilla lugs? You bought the tuner lugs that Jontoad was talking about?

Yes sir!

jsjahonda(big BK
05-01-2011, 05:53 PM
YO, the wheel look good on the beast ;) now let start taking some more laps , and get some good time. you should be unstoppable now .

MattRobertson
05-01-2011, 06:47 PM
Yes sir!
ok good to know. so I don't need the factory lugs and I can use the part numbers in that post.

NYC_SRT8
05-01-2011, 07:04 PM
ok good to know. so I don't need the factory lugs and I can use the part numbers in that post.

Yes again sir!:)

lmhoward
05-02-2011, 07:50 AM
I can't wait to see them on the car. The wider support for the tires will make a difference in maximum grip. Just be careful finding out how much harder you can push ..... or maybe I should say have fun finding out. Be sure to have the camera running when you try them out.

Les

NYC_SRT8
05-02-2011, 07:58 AM
I can't wait to see them on the car. The wider support for the tires will make a difference in maximum grip. Just be careful finding out how much harder you can push ..... or maybe I should say have fun finding out. Be sure to have the camera running when you try them out.

Les

I can't wait either. They will be ready to go next weekend and they'll be on track(LimeRock) the tuesday following.:racing:

Oh yeah, GoPro will be mounted on my passenger side dash.

NYC_SRT8
05-02-2011, 09:47 PM
The valve stems have arrived....

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG00008-20110502-2029.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG00007-20110502-1914.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG00006-20110502-1914.jpg

lmhoward
05-06-2011, 09:06 PM
Waiting for pictures and affirmation that they fit. I'm getting my car ready for the 15th myself. I need new A Arm bushings asap.

Les

NYC_SRT8
05-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Waiting for pictures and affirmation that they fit. I'm getting my car ready for the 15th myself. I need new A Arm bushings asap.

Les

Tomorrow I'm getting the tires mounted and balanced. After that I'll shoot home to take some pics on the car.

CVP33
05-07-2011, 06:38 AM
It's just plain laziness on your part that we don't have these pictures to drool on yet. :loser:

MattRobertson
05-07-2011, 10:57 AM
x2. A sad state indeed.

NYC_SRT8
05-07-2011, 03:53 PM
OK OK OK Gentlemen, I got the tires mounted today. I also test fitted them on the car. THEY FIT! Not with a lot of room though, just a 1/4".

Looking at the pic you'll see the least clearance between the tire and the knuckle is closes to the rim.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1702.jpg

flush with the wheel-well
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1699.jpg

The money shot...
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r305/ny_smasher/IMG_1698.jpg

CTRaider
05-07-2011, 04:08 PM
What a long-awaited sight. Sweet. See you Tuesday. Weather looks great for Lime Rock.

Simans82
05-07-2011, 04:17 PM
Looks great! Very nice choice.

smoove7410
05-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Looks good. Any full side pics?

lmhoward
05-07-2011, 05:28 PM
Plenty of room! So, have you considered lowering your car? You must have at least a few wasted centimeters ....... NOT!

Les

NYC_SRT8
05-08-2011, 10:40 AM
Looks good. Any full side pics?

I'll take some at the track on Tuesday.

NYC_SRT8
05-08-2011, 10:41 AM
plenty of room! So, have you considered lowering your car? You must have at least a few wasted centimeters ....... Not!

Les


haha!

CVP33
05-08-2011, 10:44 AM
Nice, very nice. What is it about black rims with yellow lettered tires on a red car. That just looks fast sitting still. Now I can't wait to see the full side view.

MattRobertson
05-08-2011, 11:42 AM
That there is a beautiful sight.

Thanks for all your work on this, Will. This is going to be huge.

jsjahonda(big BK
05-08-2011, 09:30 PM
she looks very nice will, i want to see some more footballs ;)

gooeytek
05-08-2011, 10:09 PM
looks like they'd be killer in 20's too. Hmmm...

NYC_SRT8
05-08-2011, 10:17 PM
she looks very nice will, i want to see some more footballs ;)

Thanks Brudda! I want to see more footballs too...:)


looks like they'd be killer in 20's too. Hmmm...

I was thinking the same thing.

mjr5150
05-08-2011, 10:34 PM
Looks absolutely killer . Good luck abusing them properly on Tuesday .

Andre
09-07-2011, 11:29 PM
Was it roughly 1g per rim?

NYC_SRT8
09-08-2011, 11:11 AM
Was it roughly 1g per rim?

More like $300 per wheel.

Andre
09-08-2011, 12:06 PM
That's more like it :)

Where do you suggest I get them from?

joelvan
09-08-2011, 05:00 PM
I need about 3 sets of em maybe they will sponsor me.

MattRobertson
09-08-2011, 05:31 PM
I need 6 (wheels). Maybe we should all hit them with ordersd at once so they aren't such a PITA about getting it done like they were when Will went thru it. Show 'em there's a market worth serving.

joelvan
09-08-2011, 06:43 PM
but I can't afford to buy em I'll give em back when i'm done.