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monkey
08-08-2005, 12:41 AM
I had an exciting and busy weekend going back to my hometown for a class reunion, my niece's birthday party, and to pick up some of the parts I was having painted at the GM dealership my brother works at. I know there has been some buzz on the boards about painting the spoiler since blackhemimag and some others posted pictures of how nice it looks. I took some pictures of the swap so anyone wanting to do this could have a reference. I found the repair manual too general and not helpful. Grinner was generous enough to send me blackhemimag's spoiler in exchange for mine so i didn't have to be spoilerless for a week. Thanks Grin, you rock!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/beforeafter.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/lowerscrews.jpg
Open the hatch and remove the 2 screws in the pull down handle on the liftgate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/lowerpanelpull.jpg
wedge your fingers under the panel and firmly pull the panel away from the liftgate. When it gives it makes a horrible creaking noise that will make you wince and your buttcheeks will tighten up because you think you just broke it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/lightsdisconnect.jpg
disconnect the interior light before lowering the panel all the way. The lower panel also has tabs connecting it to the upper liftgate interior panel. wiggle it around until it comes off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/upperpanelscrews.jpg
remove these 2 screws from the upper panel, and pull it off just like the lower one...creaking noise and all. at this point examine the backs of both panels you removed to verify the plastic christmas tree pins all stayed connected. I had 1 pin let go of the panel and stay stuck in the plastic grommet. I had to pry this one out and re-clip it to the panel. I bought a few extra plastic grommets in case I damaged one. this didnt happen, so I will ship them off with my core for grinner.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/rattle.jpg
At this point I remember folks on the forum talking about having a rattle fixed somewhere back here, so I start wiggling everything and found this wiring harness made noise. I pulled it out of its mounting hole, put some leftover foam gasket around the exposed hole, and then after clipping the harness back in, I duct taped the wires to the liftgate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/14c10377.jpg
REMOVING the SPOILER:
1. remove the 2 10mm nuts holding this doohickey in place and let it hang down by its wires
2. remove the 3 10mm nuts in the holes illustrated.
3. there are 2 plastic clips that there is no access to on the ends of the spoiler. close the lid, and with careful firm pressure lift one side of the spoiler at a time until the pin on that side breaks. another buttcheek tightening noise will follow. ****be careful not to apply so much force that the 2 plastic pins in the center of the spoiler break too!
4. This is where another set of hands is helpful. the only thing holding the spoiler on is the 2 pins that you have access to. Have someone hold and apply a lght pressure to the spoiler away from the lift gate. use a needlenose pliers to squeeze each pin to release.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/disconnect.jpg
carefully pull on this hose fitting to disconnect. some washer fluid may spill out. unplug the brake light wire here too. pull these parts and the rubber grommet through the hole and the spoiler is off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/newfoam.jpg
check the foam gasket around the edge of the spoiler you will be putting on the car. The stock gasket is very soft and thin. I bought a roll of all purpose self adhesive sponge rubber weather stripping from ace hardware (not too many other options in my little hometown) the super firm stripping is 3/8" wide and 1/8" thick. much thicker and firmer than the stock stuff. Some other forum goers suggested a 3M foam strip the has adhesive on 2 sides which would work too, but wasnt available at the hardware store I went to. In my typical over estimation, I got an extra roll to be sure I'd have enough and didn't even open it. Grinner this will be with the core too. 1 10' roll is enough to do 1 spoiler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/spoileroff.jpg
at this point I cleaned the gunk that was under the spoiler on the liftgate which wasnt too bad, my gasket was completely in tact so the was just a little dirt. Then I test fit the new painted spoiler (from blackhemimags car) by REMOVING all the plastic clips and leaving only the threaded studs. you dont want to have to break anymore clips during this test. I ran the brake wire and washer hose through the window and reconnected them to see if they both still worked. now would be the time to swap my brake light to the new spoiler if blackhemimags didnt work, but it did. I also wanted to test the sprayer because the body shop did paint it and I wanted to make sure it was not clogged up. Note all the crap on my car. My parent's meathead neighbor decided to mow his dustbowl dead yard while I was doing this and he kicked up all sorts of dust into the air. Nothing the california duster couldn't handle though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/cliporder.jpg
now its time to put the spoiler on for good. I disconnected it from the test and took the plastic pins off my original spoiler I put the 2 that I was able to salvage out on the ends and the 2 broken ones in the middle spots where the threaded studs will be doing all the attachment work. If you dont want to use the broken pins, you can use a small carriage bolt and nut in these locations. Place the spoiler in its location and press until the pins click. reverse the above steps to reassemble your car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/bungeeape/LXOM/spoiler/shipout.jpg
Now I will be sending the spoiler I took off to Grinner so he can mod his car some more. I didnt get around to installing the grills I bought from sweeper6 this weekend. I know there is a KB article on how to do this, but my folks no longer have a computer and I didn't want to try to figure it out. I had the grills painted brilliant black too. It should look sharp, but im concerned it may look funny with my R/T chrome lights....I may have to find an SXT swap partner.

rozkopeeko
09-21-2005, 08:30 AM
i hear ya i just purchase the front facia and grill ( srt8 ) and i'm searching for black head lights CAN ANYONE HELP will purchase , if reasonable or trade for the chrome rt's i have .

bipto
09-21-2005, 09:56 AM
Awesome tutorial, Monkey - thanks for documenting this task! :rock:

This belongs in the KB so I can find it when I go to paint mine in the spring... DMAG..?

70GT6
12-14-2005, 06:48 PM
Great write up. Only one thing I found easier. The white clips (the accessable ones anyway) have a slit in them. A slight, less than 1/4 of a turn, with a straight blade screwdriver releases these very easily, much easier than using kneedle-nose pliers and a second person is not required.

nbkbms5
12-15-2005, 09:52 PM
check on Ebay. There are tons for sale.

hemiboy29
05-07-2006, 12:06 PM
Do you know where i can find the part number of those broken clips????

Ronin
06-10-2006, 05:30 PM
:banana::banana::banana:

Much thanks to Monkey and the other helpful advice here. I got my Avon color matched spoiler installed in just over a half hour since I knew exactly what to do. Didn't break one clip on the old one either.

The only thing that I would add is that the outboard plastic retaining clips are accessible with a long screwdriver. Pushing down on one side at a time while pulling up slightly on the spoiler with your free hand and it came right up...

Pics coming (after a car wash, of course). The old spoiler had a real crappy gasket that was poking out in places and looked gaff. The new one that Ernie sent had one pad on each corner; that's it. It locked down perfectly! Whadda difference!!!

:beerchug:

Thanks again,

Matt

Darthvader
06-10-2006, 05:32 PM
Thanks Monkey gotta save that nice write up.

Guest
06-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Nice job Monkey!

Darthvader
06-18-2006, 08:24 PM
What's Grinner going to do with the core? Inquiring minds want to know

Jaak
06-18-2006, 08:36 PM
And if you can't get to the clips with that long screwdriver, break the left one, release the others you can get to, then gently turn the spoiler's left side towards the back, and the right side one will pop out because the hole is an oval, and the clips will pop through it.

No need to break two clips. Heck if you can get the left one with the screwdriver, you're home free!

FreebirdSRT
11-16-2008, 12:50 PM
Nice write up. Getting ready to remove my stock spoiler and I found this thread.

Thanks again.

JarZ
11-16-2008, 01:32 PM
Nice write up. Getting ready to remove my stock spoiler and I found this thread.

Thanks again.

I just did it last week. The biggest PITA is by far the little white clips. Use a long flat head screwdriver to push HARD against them in that little slit they have in them (like if they were screws) and simultaneously TURN them while you push. They will pop through the holes and the two center spots on the spoiler will be detached. As Jaak said, the easiest way after that is to break the left clip by pulling up on the spoiler on the left side and then turn the spoiler outward toward yourself and the right side should pop out on its own.

If you have the right tools handy, it should take you less than 1 hour. It took me about 1.5 hours because I couldn't find the right tools to begin with.
Good luck :)

FreebirdSRT
11-17-2008, 01:23 PM
I just did it last week. The biggest PITA is by far the little white clips. Use a long flat head screwdriver to push HARD against them in that little slit they have in them (like if they were screws) and simultaneously TURN them while you push. They will pop through the holes and the two center spots on the spoiler will be detached. As Jaak said, the easiest way after that is to break the left clip by pulling up on the spoiler on the left side and then turn the spoiler outward toward yourself and the right side should pop out on its own.

If you have the right tools handy, it should take you less than 1 hour. It took me about 1.5 hours because I couldn't find the right tools to begin with.
Good luck :)

I had some extra time before the sun set yesterday and was able to remove the stock magnum spoiler in about 20 minutes. The interior panels came off easily. Then I removed all the screws and then the outer clips and the interior clips. Very easy to do and thanks to Monkeys write up, it made the removal of the spoiler go that much faster....:thumbs_u:



http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/MoparMadness/DSC04060_edited.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/MoparMadness/DSC04061_edited.jpg

Spoiler in the Magnum to take to UPS to ship to Ernie.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/MoparMadness/DSC04062_edited.jpg

Backside of stock spoiler.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/MoparMadness/DSC04063_edited.jpg

HBADGE
11-17-2008, 02:04 PM
One of the best DIYs Ive ever read in a long time! Spoiler looks killer too!

scott386
01-19-2009, 10:52 PM
Thanks for the tips...Now I just need some guts to do that to my new car.

JarZ
01-19-2009, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the tips...Now I just need some guts to do that to my new car.

Not as bad as you think. Take your time, get the right tools and don't be afraid to yank the plastic even as it screams for mercy ;)

DA H.N.I.C.
01-19-2009, 11:07 PM
***subscribed to a great pictorial write up!***

magnumdude
01-19-2009, 11:59 PM
boy, this is an oldie!

nailinmag
03-21-2009, 08:10 PM
yeah man nice write up very helpful

robertm
03-21-2009, 08:57 PM
yeah it's an oldie, but it comes in handy for the newbies around here.:beerchug:

STLTH WGN
04-29-2009, 01:48 PM
that looks really good when it's removed, anyone know what the procedure would be to shave it and and the cost?

magnumdude
05-07-2009, 10:41 PM
that looks really good when it's removed, anyone know what the procedure would be to shave it and and the cost?

Check out stitchmonkey. He yanked it and filled it and added a 300 spoiler down around the belt line. Looked totally cool.

FloridaRT
05-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Good instructions, we removed the old spoiler and installed the new 402 spoiler in about 35 minutes.
My son helped me and he used to work in a body shop.

Bob

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0002-5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0003-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0001-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0001-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0010.jpg

ingchr1
06-09-2010, 08:19 PM
I was able to find the white clips. They are Auveco P/N 21099, Lift Gate Moulding Clip with Sealer. I bought them from here:

http://www.thecliplink.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=7455

n2fordmuscle
06-09-2010, 10:26 PM
I was able to find the white clips. They are Auveco P/N 21099, Lift Gate Moulding Clip with Sealer. I bought them from here:

http://www.thecliplink.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=7455

Awesome! Thanks!! I've been trying to find these. I'll be ordering a box.

SXTRED
08-22-2011, 04:43 PM
I just did this last weekend for my home made spoiler. Pictures next week.
The outer two plastic clips are reachable with a screw driver. I started with the left one and got it up wedged a screw driver under the spoiler to keep it up and worked my way across. The right side required me to look into the sun to much so that one I broke on purpose.

FYI

elarm1
08-22-2011, 10:42 PM
Good instructions, we removed the old spoiler and installed the new 402 spoiler in about 35 minutes.
My son helped me and he used to work in a body shop.

Bob

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0002-5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0003-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0001-3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0001-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0010.jpg
are these still available? didnt see them on the wesite:sad:

FloridaRT
08-23-2011, 09:01 AM
are these still available? didnt see them on the wesite:sad:


402 Motoring was making these, there were 4 different models.

Buyers were complaining about the long wait time to get the product.
I think mine took over 6 months to get, and at last check the prices doubled.

Contact 402 via email to see if they are still available.

BTW, mine is just for looks - it does not keep the rear window clean.

Bob

Ghostlight
08-23-2011, 10:23 AM
are these still available? didnt see them on the wesite:sad:

From what I know, Ernie at 402 basically quit making his Magnum spoilers when they killed off the Magnum. They were done by hand, and his shop is really busy. He now will do one with alot of begging and pleading, but it is definitely worked as a side project and as his time permits in between other car projects. It can, and does, take a LONG time, so you really have to want one and be willing to be patient. If you simply must have one, (like me), start dropping him notes and be prepared to w-a-i-t. He is currently working on mine, I'm in month 6, and I believe it is coming up for paint.

SXTRED
08-23-2011, 10:26 AM
I gave up on 402 and made my own Type II pictures to come next week.

Ghostlight
08-23-2011, 02:26 PM
are these still available? didnt see them on the wesite:sad:


From what I know, Ernie at 402 basically quit making his Magnum spoilers when they killed off the Magnum. They were done by hand, and his shop is really busy. He now will do one with alot of begging and pleading, but it is definitely worked as a side project and as his time permits in between other car projects. It can, and does, take a LONG time, so you really have to want one and be willing to be patient. If you simply must have one, (like me), start dropping him notes and be prepared to w-a-i-t. He is currently working on mine, I'm in month 6, and I believe it is coming up for paint.


I gave up on 402 and made my own Type II pictures to come next week.

Let me update my earlier post. I spoke with Ernie this AM, and he is telling me that mine will absolutely be the last Magnum spoiler they do.

I'll be interested in seeing what you have come up with SXTRED!

SXTRED
08-30-2011, 10:34 AM
Well this is what I have come up with. It does seem to help with the dust on the back despite looking dirty in the photo's this weekend my wife and I drove a bunch of dirt roads and it took driving all week and the dirt roads to collect that much dirt. Mon-Fri it looked great. The finish needs some more work but I have decided this was the prototype and the one I took off will eventually replace it.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2891.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2890.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2889.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2888.jpg

Ghostlight
09-24-2011, 01:04 AM
That's pretty nice stuff, nice job on that spoiler!

Dr. Bud
11-04-2011, 11:58 AM
Thanks again. Getting ready to pull the spoiler for a roof wrap. This will be a big help!

Jokersmokesem
01-06-2012, 12:58 PM
Thanks to this thread and monkey I replaced mine last night!! Now it's color matched!! I found this to be a huge pita. Buy extra clips and make sure the third brake light is working before you put everything back. Lol!

vengecore
02-03-2012, 03:19 PM
I will be removing mine to paint it to match this weekend. Thanks for info!

dontPANIC
06-29-2012, 02:54 PM
So you have to break some clips just to remove it??

Dr. Bud
06-29-2012, 03:50 PM
yup.

dontPANIC
06-29-2012, 04:17 PM
yup.

Weak...

primalgeek
01-09-2014, 08:17 AM
Going to do this soon to help reduce the rattle my new sub has created. Thanks for the great how to.

EsQueue
12-01-2014, 07:49 PM
Thanks for this tutorial. There is no need to break any clips though. They can all be removed quite easily with a long flat head screwdriver and without the help of anyone.

The rod only needs to be approximately 6" if I were to guess the size.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84072165/20141201_100741.jpg

The inner clips have access holes but the outter ones have to be accessed from an opening that I will show. All you need to do is slightly pull the spoiler away from the body while using the screwdriver to press against the sides of the clips. They each have 2 latches which can easily be pressed with the screwdriver. Once you press one side the spoiler will move just a hair away keeping it from relatching. Keep pulling it away with your free hand and press the other clip. The clip will detach and the spoiler will pull an inch or so away from the body. Keep pressure as you then to the the next clip until they are all out.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84072165/20141201_100345.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84072165/20141201_100407.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84072165/20141201_100301.jpg

FloridaRT
12-02-2014, 10:13 AM
I was lucky enough a year ago to get another spoiler from Ernie at 402 Motoring, it was the first one that actually does help keep the rear window clean....................

Don't ask, the first 402 spoiler I had was sold years ago.

I do like the spoiler I have now, even tho' there is no 3rd brake light or washer. I did add a 3rd light mounted on the inside of rear window.

Bob

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0063_zps44302cac.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MagnumRT/media/IMG_0063_zps44302cac.jpg.html)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0073_zpsafbf8dfe.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MagnumRT/media/IMG_0073_zpsafbf8dfe.jpg.html)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0074_zpsd030a445.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MagnumRT/media/IMG_0074_zpsd030a445.jpg.html)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0080_zps74ffec2c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MagnumRT/media/IMG_0080_zps74ffec2c.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v431/MagnumRT/IMG_0081_zps31895936.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MagnumRT/media/IMG_0081_zps31895936.jpg.html)

MD-Machiavelli
12-02-2014, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the post, that painted spoiler makes a hell of a difference.

drknyt67
05-19-2016, 07:36 PM
Well this is what I have come up with. It does seem to help with the dust on the back despite looking dirty in the photo's this weekend my wife and I drove a bunch of dirt roads and it took driving all week and the dirt roads to collect that much dirt. Mon-Fri it looked great. The finish needs some more work but I have decided this was the prototype and the one I took off will eventually replace it.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2891.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2890.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2889.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/Rhinofex/IMG_2888.jpg

Hello lx forum family, happened to be looking around for rear spoiler options for the dodge magnum and ran across this thread during the process, i noticed is a little old, but Sxtred do you manufacturer the rear spoiler you have displayed on your car, and if so how can I get my hands on one, looks awesome. This thread really helped out on the removal process. Thanks in advance.

Steve65301
05-20-2016, 08:40 AM
Here is what I did.


http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i407/steve65301/IMG_1703.jpg

SensFan
05-20-2016, 11:23 AM
Wanna make one for me? LOL. That looks awesome BTW you did an amazing job, would there be a thread on your build by any chance? I was hoping to try something myself but have no idea where to start, I may be able to have my paint guy do it for me at a reasonable price but any help, suggestions or photos would really help!!


Here is what I did.


http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i407/steve65301/IMG_1703.jpg