is it illegal to not have a front license plate? our cars just look a lot better without a front license plate. i have seen lots of lxs without them. anyone have any issues with cops here in southern california?
Depends on how well you can shmooze the cop.
per the Califorinia Government site, here is the law about the plates
5200. (a) When two license plates are issued by the department for use upon a vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were issued, one in the front and the other in the rear. (b) When only one license plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the rear thereof , unless the license plate is issued for use upon a truck tractor, in which case the license plate shall be displayed in accordance with Section 4850.5.
Amended Sec. 27, Ch. 594, Stats. 2003. Effective January 1, 2004.
In so many words... if you can convince them that you were only issued 1 (good luck) then you can go on your way...
damn it! lol ive seen a lot of people just put the license plate on the dash...is that a good thing?
Yes, in California its illegal to not have a front plate. You are right that a lot of the CA guys around here run around without them (including me). The general consensus is that unless the cop is a real gunning for you, you won't get pulled over for just the plate. They tend to add it on to things like speeding tickets. It is usually a fix-it ticket too. I have mine on the bracket in the trunk, you know because it just got knocked off in the car wash.
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The vehicle code in California(5200a) states that ..."front and rear installations required when two plates are issued"... Fine is only $25 plus court costs and penalities....If you $25 per time is cost effective, you can keep your front lines clean, otherwise a cool decorated plate frame looks good.
They are really cracking down on this. I was parked in a metrolink parking lot last week, got off the train and into my car and saw a flyer on the windsheild. Put the wipers on high hopeing to just shake it off and noticed it was a ticket for no front plate. Looked around and saw atleast a dozen other cars with the same greeting, like shooting fish in a barrel. $25 fine.
Having no front license plate is a fix it ticket in California. The same goes for tinted windows.
Lots of people don't get hassled for not having one but my cop buddy stated it's PC (probable cause) to pull you over if they wanted to. Which means they now have a reason to F with you. He says its those stops that usually leads to other criminal infractions that has led to bigger bust like drugs, firearms, perole violators, dui, suspended license etc. And all because you don't have a front plate!
If ya get pulled over it will most likely be a motor traffic cop. They are the nice ones!
And even though there's a law in the books I think its pretty gay to get stop for the sole reason of having tinted windows or no front plate!
I know this because my wife got pulled over and cited last week for having tinted windows...thats it! No other reason! It's such a waste of time because its such a STUPID LAW!!! It doesn't even generate any city revenue. It's like the cops ran out of things to do like go after really bad people or something!
Also tinted windows obstruct the drivers view out the car. I always here front people that its a BS but it is true. Especially at night. And from a motorcyclists point of view, its a safety issue. I have seen it many times. I will come up to in intersection or some driveway. People are pulling. I always look at the driver to see where they are looking and to see if they see ME. With tinted windows, I cannot see the driver to tell what they are intending to due. I have had some close calls with people with tinted windows. This is my experience on my CHP motor and my personal motor.
Here's something about fix it tickets. An officer has the discretion to make a fix it ticket non-dismissable. An officer can give you a ticket for having a headlamp out. That ticket is dismissable. Along with a busted taillamp. The driver did not have knowledge that the lights were out. Now with tint and plates it can be considered non-disimmable. That means you have or had knowledge that the violation is on you car. Everyone knows that tinted windows and no front plates are illegal. Doesnt matter what you say, everyone knows. By making a ticket non-dissimable, you have to pay a fine and penalty assessments and still get the violation fixed. If you continue to get the same ticket over(perhaps you pissed off a cop), the officer can cite you for "failure to comply" and that opens up another can of worms.
Back to tint. California is now starting to track the tinted window tickets on your driver's license record. A tinted window ticket will run you around $100 and you have to remove the tint. If you put the tint back on and get another ticket the fine will double to $200. Get another ticket and the fine will double again to $400 and double again for another ticket. You will also run into the "failure to comply" issue.
Moral of the story. DONT RIDE DIRTY Keep your car legal. Believe me, mine is. Our management patrol the employee lot and inspect our POVs. If we have a violation we get a talk'n to.
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thanks for the info shaggin magnum. Gotta question...what about those plates that arent license plates...ya know...like Dodge Ram head, or national flags and the like? Are those illegal or are they considers plates?
Thanks for the info.
My plate actually flew off awhile back. I had it on. I pulled into my office and one of the officers tells me jokingly he was going to give me a ticket for no front plate. Sure enough it was gone. I remember some of the LX bust'n my chops because I had not plate. I went to the DMV, got another one and put it on.
Over two years and still no ticket. I have been pulled over for it one time, but they just use that as an excuse to check me. I dont mind it though. It definetely looks better with out the plate in the front.
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Shaggin, lets talk hypathetically for a minute...
If I had a *friend* that had tinted front windows, say 35%, and he was pulled over, knowing that its a safety concern for the LEO, it is a good idea to roll the windows down entirely as the pulling over is in progress? Or, will the LEO interpret that as a trying to hide something kinda deal, and get ticked off? What should I, erh my friend, do if this were to ever happen (which it hasn't!)?
my question is, what is a legal amount af tint allowed?? I'll be getting my windows tinted prety soo and I'd like to know before hand.