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    Arrow Window tint warning on the 2011 DODGE's & CHRYSLER's

    ANY ONE thats planing on tinting the windows of their new 2011 chrysler needs to heed this warning!!!!!
    The new glass on the chryslers [charger/300/durango/GC/and ram laramie] ARE DUAL LAYER THERMO/IMPACT GLASS.
    The pros to this type of glass is to reduce road noise and reduced heat or cold in the cabin area for driver/passingers comfort.
    IT's designed the same way as a front windshield = 2 layers of tempered glass with a layer of clear mylar sandwiched between.
    THE other up side to this type of glass is security in a crash or if someone trys to break the glass to enter the car-the outer lay or both layers will crack like a windshield but will be held together by the mylar!!


    NOW-heres the no no to tinting this type of glass.
    #1 JUST LIKE IMPACT-SAFETY-HURRICANE glass for homes and commercial buildings there is a "very fine line" of what tint material that can be applied to it or the result will be over time build up of heat resulting in the glass either cracking OR delamination of the glass were the 2 layers start to pull away from them selfs at the edges and air and humidity will attack the mylar causing it to fog or turn milky white or yellow and in a short period of time will creep between the entire glass layers just like the 30's-50's GM cars glass did in the past in the corners of the glass from poor edge bonding.

    SO the way around delaminated or cracked glass from over heat build up is from using a quality window film.
    IT CAN NOT BE A POOR QUALITY FILM THAT ABSORB's HEAT LIKE ALL THAT $50-$100 JUNK PLASTIC TINT OUT THERE.

    IT is mandatory that its a high quality mylar based window film [either metal-carbon or NANO HYBRID] that rejects the UV and heat unlike the poor quality films that trap heat and WILL over heat the glass breaking it for you from uneven heat transfer and absortion on a 90+ degree summer after noon.

    BEWARNED-THE ONLY tint that can be used safely is either
    #1 LLUMAR ATR OR CTX CARBON= average price of $200 for ATR or $300 for CTX carbon
    #2 Huper optiks NANO carbon [owned by CPFilms-aka llumar] $350
    #3 Formula One window films carbon also owned by llumar =$300
    #4 3M Crystalline carbon film=$400
    THE film installer as be a pro with a heat gun any were around this type of glass while heat forming the film to the shape of the glass.


    THIS type of glass has been being used by mercedes on production cars since 2003
    SO have lexus/porshe/audi/some fords/lamborghini/GM as standard or special option
    IT's becoming commen on MOST ALL new cars-SO the tint job on your new dodge/chrysler can not be tinted by the local fly by night swap shop or corner gas station $59 tint shop.
    LAST thing-this glass is expensive as in hundreds of dollars [$300] plus install for just one door glass.
    NOT only is dual layer thermo/safety glass used on windshields and now side windows but is also being used on some vehicles rear windows like the MB CLS's and E350's -the caddy CTSV. Cheap tint will build up heat on the glass UNEVENLY and shatter the rear window OR CAUSE THE MYLAR layer to turn milky/foggy.
    DUAL layer thermo rear windows with defrost and navi/tps antenna's inbeded in them can cost between $500-$700 or even as high as $2000 PLUS INSTALL if broken by a cheap customer and a dumb tinter with china/columbian film's
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    Had a customer in here today with a 2010 ram-both front windows had splits/cracks in them that the dealer wont warranty-they told him he put the wrong tint on it.
    HE came to me for me opinion-and i told him the same thing-i asked him were he got them done and he answered with the flee market for 10 apiece.
    AFTER i told him what went wrong and informed him he just cost him self $500 in broken glass he freaked out
    HE should have read the owners manual.
    Mercedes-lexus-bmw-jag-caddilac are all putting warnings in the owner manual either in the very front or the rear.
    THIS glass is super strong-but if super heated in one spot for too long [uneven heat transfer] it will crack just like HEMI31 cracks his windshields in the winter from cold glass than blasting it in one area with warm air from the defrost vents.
    CHEAP tint will trap the uv and heat instead of reflecting it and because it has no technology behind it the heat absorsion is uneven

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    PRO's to dual layer glass-heat control and security from thieves and a crash-road noise reduction.
    CON's- you cant get into the vehicle if you really have too.
    IN this video-the officer had to shoot out the glass with 2 point blank shots from his 9mm in order to get threw the mylar layer between both layers of glass
    http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/21002911634434/
    Last edited by sound&security; 12-05-2010 at 06:33 PM.

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    had this happen on my 2003 lincoln navigator, went back to the shop and they claim it wasnt there fault

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    Good info..
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    saw the same thing happen on a buddies older Mercedes S-Class..

    but IMO if you cheap out you get what you deserve..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE View Post
    saw the same thing happen on a buddies older Mercedes S-Class..

    but IMO if you cheap out you get what you deserve..
    yep-the old S class always break-the glass splits on the sides-and the rear window explodes either for no reason or while you wipe it to clean it with a damp cloth across it in the hot sun
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    Glad I saw this...Saved myself some serious Coins!
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    i havent seen a 2011 challenger yet to inspect the glass SO i dont know if they went thermo pane on them-but from tinting well before dirt was invented i'd say no since i have yet to run across a 2 door or frame less door car with dual layer glass

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    does the carbon-based film affect the sensitivity of radar detectors?

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    What happens when you live in Arizona and it goes up to 120 degrees outside? Will even the good tint not cause the glass to break or split?

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    Thanks for the PSA, this is good info to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMagnum View Post
    What happens when you live in Arizona and it goes up to 120 degrees outside? Will even the good tint not cause the glass to break or split?

    I would like to know this as well. The next car I plan on purchasing (Charger is staying, no worries) will most likely have this style glass.

    Also I have a feeling my old 01 neon had this glass in the back window because it randomly shattered in the garage overnight but held together. The tint used wasn't one of the companies mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooeytek View Post
    does the carbon-based film affect the sensitivity of radar detectors?
    NO not at all-thats what carbon film was designed for-no radio/nav/tps sensor reception blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMagnum View Post
    What happens when you live in Arizona and it goes up to 120 degrees outside? Will even the good tint not cause the glass to break or split?
    good film rejects the uv rays.
    so far i have data on the 2011 chryslers and they are only thermo pane glass on the front doors [weird]
    FYI the SRT CG are all thermo pane since day one of their builds as standard glass [front doors only]

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