I can live with the ocasional (rare) CEL. The 383-170 is a superior "failsafe" high flow design.
bump, nice video really puts it into Lamens terms.
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It's not uncommon to get a code or two, with accompanying CEL, while your system's adaptives get used to the cooler tstat. If so merely clear them at first opportunity. It takes all of a minute or two to clear them.
The code (P0128 as I recall) is "'tstat temp logic", or similar. It'll bring with it an accompanying CEL, the orange engine outline icon in the lower left of the instrument clusters array. Remove both with a 15-20 second pull of fuse 11, yellow 20 amp fuse in the little center alley, close to the hinged end of the fwd PDC. Keep a pair of hemastats (or a small, skinny, needle-nose plier) in the glove box for that purpose.
The code is set when the coolant temp doesn't reach 180* within a certain, unspecified, amount of time (no clue - maybe 10-15 minutes) on any given driving cycle. You'll notice it's rare not to get to 180, even with a tstat that runs dead-on 176*, before you get on the highway and have the airflow to run your coolant temp at the stat temp.
If you happen to be watching it on a cool morning and the coolant temp hasn't yet reached 180 and you're about to get on the expressway in a 1/2 mile or so, just get on it moderately hard for just 3 or 4 seconds a time or two and it'll usually jump right up there.
Running a gear or two low will speed up the coolant warm up process. I'm not talking about buzzing your motor, but on a 35mph street where you're likely running 40 or 45, get her out of D, where she's only running on 4 cylinders and drop her into 3rd. You're taching in the mid twos, very easy on the motor, and the temp will crawl right on up to 180. I don't know if merely *reaching* 180* is sufficient, or if one must *surpass* 180* so if I happen to be watching it that morning I'll let it hit a temp just above 180* before I hold the shifter to the right momentarily and put the tranny back into D. And maybe flip the fan switch on if I think I may encounter a player later. Gotta' always be ready, you know.
That cat was hilarious...Good video!
But not with a tuner - with one of the many fan kits PowerWagon made reference to a few short posts back.
DESIREE connected all the dots from jaak & JT, himself, & others, no doubt, and has come up with a totally automated fan mod. You literally dial in the temp at which you want the fans to kick on and the temp for them to turn off. You can read all about it here:
Great video and instructions, thanks for the info.
P.S. Keep that cat in the house next time, I am allergic to cats.
And, yes, this is a *great* tool that Dan provides the LX community - takes all the guesswork out of putting text into action.
Kudos, BTW, moparman - just noticed your mod list - what a beautiful, practical, performance package you've put together but going with Frank Racing's econo racing package.
How long are you going to keep us hanging waiting for track and dyno results? I, for one, can hardly wait to see it. Great job!
The TSTAT change-out must be performed W/ a cool. preferably stone cold engine to assure a vacume condition on the cooling system when the TSTAT housing is removed.
One must also leave the radiator cap on the maintain that vacume thus preventing coolant loss.
The coolant level in the overflow tank will not diminish & when you refill W/the coolant recovered W/the Zip-lock bag, the overflow tank will APEAR to be over full. This is not really the case.
Once the engine is started & run for several days, the collant level in the overflow tank will slowly return to normal as air is bled out of the system & into the overflow tank.
One can easily mistake this phenominon as a slow leak, but after a few days the coolant level will normalize.
"DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!"
New fan mod (runs auto for 180 thermostat) NoESP's Coolit Fan Mod almost done - any last minute requests?
I just put in the 4128, runs about 188-190. waiting for NOESP now.
Last edited by joseph; 05-09-2007 at 06:12 PM.
Does anyone have any more info on the "simple fan mod". Like some pics or alittle more wiring info. Also has anyone done it and do you like the simple mod??