Forced Ignition (need help with fuse schematic)

**EXTREME** · 05-28-2007, 06:55 PM

Alright, i picked up a Forced Ignition box after hearing about a bunch of mine and my dads friends getting their cars (muscle cars) stolen in ATL this past weekend. The company is local and one of the guys who got his car stolen had a couple that he "just hadn't put on yet" Well, he said he'd wished he'd had put it on now.. I was going to put it on my nova, along with dads nova and moms chevelle. Well, i got one and am just going to test it out before i buy 3 or 4 of them. So i decided i wanted to put it on the 300 also.

What i need is a schematic of the underhood fuse panel. Like which wires are which underneith the fuse panel. The way the system works basically is it hooks in series with something like PCM, Fuel Pump, or Ignition. When the car is started and driven without the reflector the module opens the loop and kills the car. I tested it by pulling fuse 11 and hooking it in series from the top and just mocked it up. Had mom drive the reflecter piece that goes in your pocket down to the end of the driveway. Started the car and it started for about 30 seconds and died and wouldn't start again. Brought the piece back and when i got about a foot from the trunk the module recognized the reflector was within reach and the relay clicked and it started like normal. Because i didn't have it securely installed i couldn't drive away while someone held the remote (like if it was stolen out of the driveway.)

Any advice on what to hook in series with? I'd like to not use fuse 11 so i can still pull it to clear codes and such. Is there a relay for the fuel pump or maybe the ignition?

Here are some details on the system.

There are two parts to the Forced Ignition Disabling System – the main control computer, which is mounted in the vehicle, and the reflector worn by the authorized driver. The main control box receives a unique encrypted code from the reflector using 128-bit encryption algorithm, which distinguishes the signal from any other source and prevents security breach. Once the main control computer gets a predetermined distance from the reflector it triggers a series of relay actions resulting in primary fuel or ignition system disconnect. When the reflector is back within range of the vehicle, the system resets itself automatically.

Car Jacking

With the ever increasing risks of carjacking, wouldn’t you like to have the peace of mind that The Forced Ignition System can give? What if you are driving along with your child and are carjacked at a red light? You are violently forced out of the vehicle and the carjacker takes off, your child still buckled up in the back seat. Do you really want to call your tracking service and wait hours for your vehicle to be located? With The The Forced Ignition System the carjacker will get approximately 150 yards from the driver and the vehicle will shut down. The carjacker is not going to stick around and wait for the cops, he is going to get out and run - suspecting car trouble after he cannot get the vehicle to start. The driver is still well within range of the vehicle and the child, while the carjacker is leaving the scene, where he is no longer a threat. As easily as the vehicle was disabled, it will be automatically enabled as soon as you are back within distance.
Not even the highest priced alarm system could help you in this situation. The Forced Ignition System works every time! There is no need to call and activate the service, there are no monthly fees, no hidden costs. With The Forced Ignition System you have peace of mind like NO other vehicle security systems.

Warming your car on a cold morning

With The Forced Ignition System, you never again have to worry about leaving your car running to warm up in the winter*, cool off in the summer, or having to run back inside the house to get something you left behind. If your car gets 100 yards from the Reflector you are wearing, then it shuts off. This distance keeps you in sight of your vehicle but the danger of the thief away from you! No alarm system allows that peace of mind and you never have to place a call to activate The Forced Ignition System.

Safety while you are away
The Phenomenon keeps your vehicle disabled while you are away. Whether you are shopping in the mall, or sleeping in your bed, rest assured that your vehicle is protected.

edit: heres a pic of the relay and module. You can see its really simple to setup.. hot, ground, and the yellow and green for Line and Load sides of the wire of chioce.

Thanks guys
Jusitn

**Token** · 06-01-2007, 03:03 PM

Not a bad idea. So you carry around an RFID tag. Similar to the "Speedpass" and "Easy Pay" things at the gas pumps.

**Cdn_Magnum** · 06-01-2007, 03:08 PM

Good idea and simple. But it doesnt keep our vehicle safe from a flat bed or the hook

**Nightshade** · 06-01-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Token

Not a bad idea. So you carry around an RFID tag. Similar to the "Speedpass" and "Easy Pay" things at the gas pumps.

Would be nice if it could learn a new RFID tag that we already have.. I have one in my wallet for work.. kinda nice if it could learn that tag and just use that instead..

**Super T** · 06-01-2007, 03:18 PM

What happens if you lose the reflector?

**EXTREME** · 06-01-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cdn_Magnum

Good idea and simple. But it doesnt keep our vehicle safe from a flat bed or the hook

Yea, i told my dad the same thing.. Nothing will save any vehicle from a rollback. If they want mine that bad they can have it.

Originally Posted by Nightshade

Would be nice if it could learn a new RFID tag that we already have.. I have one in my wallet for work.. kinda nice if it could learn that tag and just use that instead..

May can be programmed. They can program one tag for several modules. Like if you have 4 cars and have the system on all of them. They can program all the modules to hold the same number sequence, so you only need one tag.

Originally Posted by Super T

What happens if you lose the reflector?

They sell spares. lol, in the Q&A on their website the answer to that same question is something like, "that would be bad" lol followed by how to call and get another one sent to you and it's good to have a spare!

**fnkychkn** · 06-01-2007, 08:25 PM

any attempt to disable the ignition system would result in MIL illumination and a DTC. you'd be better off cutting the fuel pump relay output near the PDC (power distribution center/rear fuse box). 16 guage dark blue/orange wire.