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    Which way for best bang for the buck??

    Ok, I'm resigned to the fact that my 6.1 with heads/cam is a low 12 second car (southern DA's). I would really like to be in the 11.7/11.8 range, and trying to figure out the best way to get there. Here's the 2 things I'm considering, which are worlds apart.

    Option 1: Vortech or ProCharger Supercharger. This should get me where I need to be, but installing it on a heads/cam car might be pushing the luck of the stock block. Cost roughly 6k without install.

    Option 2: Budget 426 stroker. Not sure that this will give me an extra .5 over the current setup, so it's questionable with the payback. However, it will most likely be much more reliable. Can be had for roughly 4k without install.

    Option 3: Nitrous. Been there, done that. Yes, it will get me where I want, but I really don't want to do it again, so not an option.

    What would you do??



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    Vortech with meth injection kit.

    There's been a couple guys do Vortech with heads and cam, maybe they will chime in.

    I'm kind of on the mirror opposite of you, I've got the Vortech and am trying to decide what to do next. I'm thinking cam/heads, then down the road stroker. The money I spend on heads will transfer to the stroker, so I'm just out the cam and install price.

    If you want, call the guys at Vortech. When my car was there, they had 2 heads/cam cars they were working on, they might be able to put your mind more at ease with the stock bottom end.
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    id add the blower, option one.
    if your willing to spend a little bit extra... maybe have the rods and pistons forged just for the strength?
    then you will be perfect

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    I may be biased but option 2 looks nice and can be done...


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    Forged 6.1, relieved pistons and a new cam.
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    to be honest i would do a blower.. but 6k for 100 more hp?

    but bang for the buck a nice n2o set up you cant beat it..

    a stroker wont next you the .5 you want..

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    I have not seen the blower cars out there without built bottom ends running that great either. Nitrous is always the best bang for the buck IMHO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam View Post
    Forged 6.1, relieved pistons and a new cam.
    Relieved for the purpose of running a much higher lift cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by 04hemipwr View Post
    to be honest i would do a blower.. but 6k for 100 more hp?

    but bang for the buck a nice n2o set up you cant beat it..

    a stroker wont next you the .5 you want..
    that's my fear. Other than a few exceptions, I don't see stroker cars running that much faster than the non-strokers. Faster, yes, but maybe not enough to warrant the 4-5k in the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaisersteiner View Post
    I have not seen the blower cars out there without built bottom ends running that great either. Nitrous is always the best bang for the buck IMHO.
    I haven't seen much in track times from any of the every day blower cars. Just a few of the wild ones, so I really don't know what a blower would net in the long run either.

    I loved the shot of nitrous when I had it. However, it's still a family car - and although I know it's safe, my wife refused to let me have the kids in the car when the nitrous was installed, with or without the bottle actually in it. Nothing I can do to change that unfortunately. Probably had to do with the gas line leak I had at one time.


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    Follow dans(flybyu) lead, stroker will get you there with the least number of pesky reoccuring issues. I am impressed with it even though I am a S/C guy.
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    We still have issue with lift until a decent valvetrain is released. But mainly duration at this point. The high duration cams are Fast as F on the top end. But VTP becomes an issue.
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    Stroke it...as it will get you the times you are seeking. You have several 426 N/As in the 11.6 to 11.5 range. You then can S/C it and go nuts to the wall or add the N02 like the "big guys" are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srt-hardware View Post
    Follow dans(flybyu) lead, stroker will get you there with the least number of pesky reoccuring issues. I am impressed with it even though I am a S/C guy.
    Off topic, but I'm coming for your 10.97 Chad. On topic, 6-8 psi of boost is just a tease with a supercharger. Build a motor that can handle the boost and have fun with it. Air is free and a N2O refill is like 40-50 bucks? I pay $45 for an empty 10 lb bottle.
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    I'm planning on doing both eventually, but went for the blower first. I have a heads/cam car with an 8 psi Vortech on it. My plan is to hit the track on 12/6 for 1/4 mile times. I will warn you though, I don't have axles yet so I have to run street tires. I spin street tires at every red light now so I don't expect great times - just great MPH!

    Bang for the buck...What's the long-term plan? If you plan on being done after this, I'd do the blower. If you're planning on building the motor too, then its a toss up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemidup View Post
    Off topic, but I'm coming for your 10.97 Chad. On topic, 6-8 psi of boost is just a tease with a supercharger. Build a motor that can handle the boost and have fun with it. Air is free and a N2O refill is like 40-50 bucks? I pay $45 for an empty 10 lb bottle.
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