LETS GET THIS DONE!

[MomsR/T]

Alright now...........if you want to make your R/T or C go more quicklyer, set down your K&N and relax.........I can get you 8 rear wheel hp.....but I need someones help here first.


Lee Cooper, owner of Auto Specialties (the largest pulley maker) says he has been trying to get his hands on a friggen pulley for the 5.7 thats in our cars........DC says no way!

In fact you can't even ORDER the part FROM the parts counter...........this is where ya'll come in. Its not like the pulley just slides off........it needs to be pressed thus the radiator needs to come out. If anyone can get their grubby little hands on one or can be without out their car for sometime, I NEED THE FRIGGEN PULLEY!

Once Lee can draft the pulley, he can do the rest of the math and CAD to build this thing! I can't make promises as to what this "LITTLE HELPER" will get, but most likely the first darn pulley that comes off the line.

I would bet money that removing the resonators and adding a K&N don't come close to changing the pulley (from my past exp.) Its a big deal........

Get to work and make this happen, cuz if a forum GROUP TOWARDS this car can't do it.....who can?

[MomsR/T]

BTW.....no the pulley for the truck motor is different so don't even think about it......good try though.

[C4me]

Deleted for lack of interest.

[MomsR/T]

what? What the hell does that mean?

You lack interest in an under drive pulley? Are you kidding me?

[Rev.Hammer]

Hmmmm...I wish I wish I wish I had Unholy's wrecked Magnum! ... I am interested ,for one...

[bipto]

How is it that dealer parts depts don't have a p/n on this..? You mean to tell me that if I have a front end, radiator-shredding accident and I bend that pully, that I couldn't get another one..?

[gone2vegas]

How is it that dealer parts depts don't have a p/n on this..? You mean to tell me that if I have a front end, radiator-shredding accident and I bend that pully, that I couldn't get another one..?

maybe they have a p/n, but won't give it out or allow you to purchase one. maybe it can only be ordered by a dealer service department.

I would bet money that removing the resonators and adding a K&N don't come close to changing the pulley (from my past exp.) Its a big deal........

IMO, the pulley is not that big of a deal, at least not if you want to maintain decent performance FROM your accessories.

I put an ASP kit on my brother's 95 Mustang GT and there wasn't a noticeable seat of the pants difference. that kit included the crank, water pump and alternator pulleys. we didn't install the alternator pulley. the engine did rev up a little quicker though.

I'd say the pulley is equivalent to the K&N and MUFFLER replacement NOT the RESONATOR replacement. I think the resonator replacement is more for sound not performance.

dollar/hp gained obviously goes to the pulley, but replacing the mufflers adds to the sound so there are multiple benefits.

[MomsR/T]

How is it that dealer parts depts don't have a p/n on this..? You mean to tell me that if I have a front end, radiator-shredding accident and I bend that pully, that I couldn't get another one..?

According to Lee, Mopar wants the old one in ORDER to sell the new one. They DEMAND the core instead of asking for it. He and I were talking and he was telling me he had to wait 2 years to make the one for the Hemi in the truck. He claims there is a good chance that the only difference is 7 rib to a 6 rib but is not willing to bet his reputation on it. He needs the real one for no more than a day.

As far as the pulley not being a big deal, I can tell you that it will make a bigger difference than the other things at a fraction of the cost.........since there are few parts for this thing, we are 1 pulley and 1 month to have one more part!

Coming FROM the Ford side of the house I am not use to BEGGING for parts...... 8)

If we can do the exhaust, air intake, and pulleys I am figuring around 375hp..........thats huge!

So.........keep you ears open, because you never know when you might meet a parts guy or a service manager that can help us. Think think think! :idea:

Good luck fellas and let me know what you can find.............

[C4me]

what? What the hell does that mean?

You lack interest in an under drive pulley? Are you kidding me?

You asked, so I'll tell you.
Little gain, if you say add an intake and an exhaust .... I'll say litlle gain FROM the pulley. Next, take thae pulley off your MOM's car! Don't need to try to get us to do what YOU think is KEWL. Jeez, spare me this ... if you want it for Mom's car, then you do it.

[MomsR/T]

Lemme explain.............I am not asking you to go take it off your car. I have already looked at doing this and the down time and effort is too much for me or anyone else to do. Take INTO account that I even own a shop.

Next..........there are folks here that either work for DM, know someone that does, work for a dealership, or know someone that does. With that in mind, I figured a GROUP could get this done. "Doesn't matter what you know its who you know."

Next, considering the lack of aftermarket for the car THUS far, I would think its a big deal to add 33% more parts that a fella could add to his/her car. When I sit here and read 20 different posts on CAI mods you would think there would be interest in a pulley that would actually add MORE hp that the CAI.

As far as "little difference", I know that DYNO results SHOW 8hp or more to the rear wheels on about every car Lee has designed a pulley for. Thats fairly good I think, esp. given how cheap the part is. Given the fact that with this SLUSH auto, I figure an 18% loss to the rear wheels which takes us to 288hp.......add 8hp = 296hp.

296hp to the rear wheels alone is getting better. The pulley would allow us to "rev" quicker. The other two mods, to my understanding, are the cat back and the intake. WIth all things being equal, these 3 parts would work well together. And considering the Borla cat back is $1000 and CAI's are $130 to $230, I would think some would be giddy about a part that costs $200 to $250 (unsure due to lack of production).

Back in the day, I remember running a pulley, 3.73 gears, a set of tires, K&N with air silencer removed, h-pipe with 2 chamber flows and synthetic oil in a late 80's to early 90's LX 5.0 and ripping off low 13's while others were able to get high 12's. Is this no big deal?

Your right, I asked the question........and while I will try no longer to get you to agree, I was shocked that you spoke for the entire group.

[C4me]

I sure hate to get INTO one of these kind of posts, but you are begging - yes you did ask for someone else to take it off the car. Look at your 1st post. ".....or can be without their car ...". 33% more parts? What is that? 8 HP and all I have to do is spend 250 USD, pull my radiator, etc, etc. And, read MY post again - I never said WE, I always said I. It was my post, and I still say if it is so cool, do it. BTW,do you figure that the alternator will be able to handle the LOAD when underdriven? OH, get a new bigger amp alternator? It really isn't a very big alternator as it is. For 8 HP? Sorry, but IMO it isn't worth it. For me, that is. Good luck on this one.

[Unholy]

I could have sold him the entire wreck I had... and he could remake every part if he wanted... just a bit too late.

[Rev.Hammer]

Dammit , Unholy... I stomp my hat everytime I think about how sweet it would have been to have that wreck!!

[MomsR/T]

C4me.......thats fine dude......if you have no interest, thats why they make the little red X on your upper right hand corner of the screen of the arrow that points to the left on your upper left of the screen.

The post was for people that wanted more hp. If you know of other ways to make more hp.......and yes 8 rwhp on average.....please feel free to share. Do I have ALL the answers to what is going to happen or what is this and that going to mean? NO! Thats why I need a pulley to place INTO the hands of the designers. Like all pulleys, it depends on how much you under drive it. Sometimes he can do a set so that it under drives the crank alot but effects the ALT very little........but who knows until we can get everything sorted out.

I suppose I could ask one more question about mufflers or cold air mods.........or maybe cold air mods then mufflers.

Can't hate a dude for trying to come to a site to FURTHER a specific type of car and really trying to FURTHER the cause eh?

Besides...........all that talk of 22" and 24" wheels is driving my HEMI crazy! I'd rather stick my damn 15" Weld Draglites on it......but the brakes are too big.

How bout this.......how bout the folks that come to the "Engine / Intake / Exhaust" section actually want to make 5 hp here and 10 hp there? Lastly, no one designs and builds better pullies than ASP (them Aggie engineers for ya). If some one would give me 8 hp with out effecting the rest of the car and all for $200.....I would be all for it. But what do I know........I rather make HP then put in the latest craze like a Tornado or a TB spacer that has a heli cut in it....ROFL!

[MomsR/T]

oh...one more thing......33% of the parts mean, that if all we have now is CAI and exhaust.....the pulley would be the third aftermarket part thus 33% of the things you could possible do to your ride.

right now if you have modified your airbox, taken out the silencer, or whatever, you've done half of EVERYTHING you can do to it thus far.

If folks here can write 50 different ways to add more air (of which there isn't 1 hp FROM the best idea to the worst idea) you can imagine my shock that someone would write DELETED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST.