Factory rear VES/DVD player does NOT work currently with TVandNAV2GO

[cbutler32]

yet...
but hopefully soon...
THIS is meant as an FYI only...
not a slam or a bad mouth bitch session...
this is to inform anyone who has the rear VES/DVD factory unit...
that currently TVandNAV2GO do NOT have a solution to tap into, splice or connect into the actual unit...
see this story...

here is what I posted to a couple of inquiring minds...
there is no real solution on how to tap into the VES unit as of yet...
the Durango picture that was floating around here...
totally different dvd unit once pulled out...
there is a 10-pin buss harness...
that plugs into the bottom of the VES unit...
the problem - not one of the wires is a video out...
most are audio...
there are two harnesses on the top that plug into the VES unit - both harnesses run very thin gauge wire - somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-28 gauge - to small to splice into with an RCA cable...
there is a very tiny 20-28 gauge wire on the top - a blue and red one - that might be the source...
the issue is how small the wire is... now way to splice a RCA cable to it...
so then the solution and thought is to solder the RCA cable onto the circuit board...
and trust me - I had the circuit board cover off last night and it is very minute in detail - honestly need a magnifying glass with some of the parts...
this is a job for a audio professional...
the hook-up of the stuff Dom provided is the easy part - honestly...
getting it to tap into the VES...
that is the MAJOR problem...
Dom has no solution per our phone conversation yesterday...
he thinks he does and say a picture of it or a solution to it - but he is thinking of the Durango and the durango ves unit IS different...
the other issue I have with Dom and their group is they have not seen one of these VES units in person yet...
so I am a little miffed about that...
as I asked specifically when I was getting ready to order...
does this work with the factory provided VES unit???
yeah, yeah - it just plugs right in...
well it doesn't...
and I am warning all those thinking about this upgrade to NOT do it and hold off until someone finds a fix...
now if you are looking to run a portable DVD player and tap in that way - this is the way to go to watch DVD's on your NAV - I will give Dom and company props for that... as well as the camera hook-up...
it will work flawlessly for you...
but with a factory VES/DVD unit - wait...

my issue is that I have a $450.00 upgrade and which I have completely torn apart the VES unit, center console and dash to make this work - and it has not...
hey life in the big city of mods right?
my point being is that he sold me something that doesn't work for our factory VES DVD units - but does for a portable dvd player...
in that application it works fine - as I tested it out last night...
this mod they are selling is a portable DVD unit only application and should NOT be even remotely considered for the tapping into our rear VES/DVD player...
so I am now looking at dropping more money on this upgrade for what i was told was a simple plug and go...
cause it just won't easily work without some professional help and someon who can solder micro fine boards...
Hope this helps for those contemplating this.
Sincerely,

[domoftvandnav2go]

Hi cbutler32
Hope all is well. The mod 100% works with ALL VES units. You have to find the wire to tap into that brings the video from the VES to the back monitor. On your unit you don't have to go into the unit you have to tap the wire. The blue wire has nothing to do with it. The blue wire goes to the 12V reverse lights. I don't remember which pin and color wire it is, but it 100% can be done, any car audio video shop should be able to find the wire for you. There are member in the forum that have done it themselves. Saying it can't be done because you can't find the wire if NOT TRUE. I also said to you that if you were not 100% happy that you could return the mod I would credit you a full credit less shipping. I have done 100's of radio mods for the members of this forum both with VES and without and they have NEVER had any problems with my service or the product. You can either take it to a shop to find the correct wire or return it for a credit. The mod 100% works with ALL VES units.
Thanks for the help teeitup.
Thanks Dominic www.TVandNav2Go.com

yet...
but hopefully soon...
THIS is meant as an FYI only...
not a slam or a bad mouth bitch session...
this is to inform anyone who has the rear VES/DVD factory unit...
that currently TVandNAV2GO do NOT have a solution to tap into, splice or connect into the actual unit...
see this story...

here is what I posted to a couple of inquiring minds...
there is no real solution on how to tap into the VES unit as of yet...
the Durango picture that was floating around here...
totally different dvd unit once pulled out...
there is a 10-pin buss harness...
that plugs into the bottom of the VES unit...
the problem - not one of the wires is a video out...
most are audio...
there are two harnesses on the top that plug into the VES unit - both harnesses run very thin gauge wire - somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-28 gauge - to small to splice into with an RCA cable...
there is a very tiny 20-28 gauge wire on the top - a blue and red one - that might be the source...
the issue is how small the wire is... now way to splice a RCA cable to it...
so then the solution and thought is to solder the RCA cable onto the circuit board...
and trust me - I had the circuit board cover off last night and it is very minute in detail - honestly need a magnifying glass with some of the parts...
this is a job for a audio professional...
the hook-up of the stuff Dom provided is the easy part - honestly...
getting it to tap into the VES...
that is the MAJOR problem...
Dom has no solution per our phone conversation yesterday...
he thinks he does and say a picture of it or a solution to it - but he is thinking of the Durango and the durango ves unit IS different...
the other issue I have with Dom and their group is they have not seen one of these VES units in person yet...
so I am a little miffed about that...
as I asked specifically when I was getting ready to order...
does this work with the factory provided VES unit???
yeah, yeah - it just plugs right in...
well it doesn't...
and I am warning all those thinking about this upgrade to NOT do it and hold off until someone finds a fix...
now if you are looking to run a portable DVD player and tap in that way - this is the way to go to watch DVD's on your NAV - I will give Dom and company props for that... as well as the camera hook-up...
it will work flawlessly for you...
but with a factory VES/DVD unit - wait...

my issue is that I have a $450.00 upgrade and which I have completely torn apart the VES unit, center console and dash to make this work - and it has not...
hey life in the big city of mods right?
my point being is that he sold me something that doesn't work for our factory VES DVD units - but does for a portable dvd player...
in that application it works fine - as I tested it out last night...
this mod they are selling is a portable DVD unit only application and should NOT be even remotely considered for the tapping into our rear VES/DVD player...
so I am now looking at dropping more money on this upgrade for what i was told was a simple plug and go...
cause it just won't easily work without some professional help and someon who can solder micro fine boards...
Hope this helps for those contemplating this.
Sincerely,

[cbutler32]

Dom,
read my post again...
the 10-pin harness underneath that plugs into the dvd/ves does NOT have a video out wire...
the only wire is the blue wire in the ves/dvd unit that is very thin and honestly tough to tap into...
not the blue wire from your black box...
c'mon - give me a brake...
no one here has stepped up and said they have done this mod themselves...
teeitup had his audio guy do it...
and he referred to the same wire I spoke about above...
please...
and when you say it is a simple plug and play and waway you go...
don't...
this is a major tear down to get to that one special wire...

Your unit works fine maybe on other Chrysler units before this 06' VES unit...
but not with this one as for easibility...

Yeah, let me ship it back to you for another 150.00 to have you take out the serial cable...
please...
I'll get it done at a shop here locally like teeitup did...
don't continue to mislead...

this coming from someone who told me that they haven't even seen this type of VES unit yet...
ok...

[domoftvandnav2go]

Hi cbutler32
1st there is NO charge to take the mod out. 2nd I am not misleading anyone. There is no one else is the forum that has ever had a problem with the product.
Thanks Dominic www.TVandNav2go.com

[cbutler32]

this coming from someone who told me that they haven't even seen this type of VES unit yet...
ok...
it costs me $150.00 to ship to you...

[domoftvandnav2go]

cbutler32
I told you I didn't see your VES unit because you told me that there was no blue wire to tap and that it was a 06 and different that any other VES. I also told you that you had to tap the video wire from the VES and that other forum members have done it. You proceded to post in every forum that my mod didn't work with VES, but as we can see now, you have the same VES as Teeitup. You not being able to tap the wire doesn't mean I mislead anyone and doesn't mean my mod doesn't work. It can be done and it does work as many member have done. When you first bought it I said you had to tap the wire. I can't posssibly know your skill level. Saying my mod doesn't work and you not being able to tap the wire is 2 different things. I also told you in an email that if you didn't want the mod I would refund your money ($450). I can't refund the $150 you say you paid for shipping because this money didn't go to me it went to UPS. Anything you buy on the net or by mail order is always refunded less shipping. I can see that no matter what I try to do for you, you will never be happy. I have done 100's of radios for forum members and you will be the FIRST and only customer in this forum to be unhappy.

Dominic www.TVandNav2Go.com

[cbutler32]

Dom,
first of all...
I never said you mod never worked...
in fact several posts ago I said it probably works perfectly for anyone that doe NOT have the VES unit issue like I have...
I aid it will not work based on the information you have provided - as you have not seen one to even known the problem at hand.
second - I stated that you informed me via the phone that it was a simple plug and play and wire it right up...
so that being said - I wanted to inform all my fellow breatheren members that it is not a simple plug and play - splice or tap in...
it will REQUIRE you taking it to an audio specialist to either tap into the "tinsel" wire - as it is that thin - or solder onto the circuit board...
now that being said...
it's not a simple plug and play or tap into type of mod is it?
third, teeitup - took his unit to a audio specialist for this very reason...
I am trying to find out from him as he is checking with his audio guy if he spliced into the tinsel wire or if he soldered onto the circuit board...
fourth - the product you make DOES work on everything else perfectly - and I said that as well in a previous post.
my continued issue is that you continue to attempt to play down this crucial item that makes the mod very very difficult and requires it to be taken to an audio specialist to do the final piece of the puzzle so to speak...
the final piece of the puzzle IS my issue...
nothing else.
as you fail to inform me or anyone else in your continued posts of this problem to make the mod work...
there were some pictures taken by a fellow member to show how thin this blue wire is that would need to be tapped or spliced into - hopefully he posts these...
if and when you get a rear 2006 ves unit in...
please let us know if you can come up with a better solution to the problem at hand.
Fifth, I am not unhappy with your product and not a dissatified customer as you have labeled me...
I am disappointed by the missrepresentation of the mod by you... as well as you not understanding the complexity of the final step of the mod after not even having seen a 2006 rear DVD/VES unit. So to make any type of comments about it in the first place is unprofessional and irresponsible. That is my bone of contention - and based upon that it is only fair that I share this with everyone who is considering this upgrade.
Wishing you the best with your business - as it is a fine product.
Sincerely,
Chris

[domoftvandnav2go]

Chris
I guess this will be a never ending story. Like I said, I have done 100's of radio's mods for forum members both with VES and without and no complaints about tapping VES wires or any problems from anyone else except for you. In 1 statement you say it doesn't work with VES, but then you have teeitup which has the same VES unit, has his playing fine. Yes he took it to a shop to tap the wire, but it DOES work with ALL VES units. What you should say is it works, but you can't tap the wire. Yes maybe simply tapping a wire for me is not simple for everyone else. Everyone is good at his or her own thing, I am sure you are better at other things that I am not. When you said you didn't want to go to the audio shop and spend more money I offered you a refund. This was not good enough so you started to complain on here. I really don't want to keep wasting anymore forum resources on this. If you want mark the pin where the blue wire is (which I think is pin 10) and I will mate your elephant with your field mouse on the circuit board since I don't have the car to tap the blue wire. This whole thing has totaly gotten out of hand.
Thanks Dominic www.TVandNav2Go.com

Dom,
first of all...
I never said you mod never worked...
in fact several posts ago I said it probably works perfectly for anyone that doe NOT have the VES unit issue like I have...
I aid it will not work based on the information you have provided - as you have not seen one to even known the problem at hand.
second - I stated that you informed me via the phone that it was a simple plug and play and wire it right up...
so that being said - I wanted to inform all my fellow breatheren members that it is not a simple plug and play - splice or tap in...
it will REQUIRE you taking it to an audio specialist to either tap into the "tinsel" wire - as it is that thin - or solder onto the circuit board...
now that being said...
it's not a simple plug and play or tap into type of mod is it?
third, teeitup - took his unit to a audio specialist for this very reason...
I am trying to find out from him as he is checking with his audio guy if he spliced into the tinsel wire or if he soldered onto the circuit board...
fourth - the product you make DOES work on everything else perfectly - and I said that as well in a previous post.
my continued issue is that you continue to attempt to play down this crucial item that makes the mod very very difficult and requires it to be taken to an audio specialist to do the final piece of the puzzle so to speak...
the final piece of the puzzle IS my issue...
nothing else.
as you fail to inform me or anyone else in your continued posts of this problem to make the mod work...
there were some pictures taken by a fellow member to show how thin this blue wire is that would need to be tapped or spliced into - hopefully he posts these...
if and when you get a rear 2006 ves unit in...
please let us know if you can come up with a better solution to the problem at hand.
Fifth, I am not unhappy with your product and not a dissatified customer as you have labeled me...
I am disappointed by the missrepresentation of the mod by you... as well as you not understanding the complexity of the final step of the mod after not even having seen a 2006 rear DVD/VES unit. So to make any type of comments about it in the first place is unprofessional and irresponsible. That is my bone of contention - and based upon that it is only fair that I share this with everyone who is considering this upgrade.
Wishing you the best with your business - as it is a fine product.
Sincerely,
Chris