ive beat a lot of cars that would ET AND mph more than me at the track. granted for the most part it makes a difference, sometimes it doesnt. and this was usually from a stop where my car would shine.
the 15.2 @ 100 was just and exageration to say that even if the truck DID run a quicker ET, but it had less mph, that the hemi would still win from a roll based on mph.
on street tires, sometimes a grandam can outpull me on the street if i dont feather the throttle :( only till i got traction though
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Maybe the guy just didn't know how to drive it...come on now. I beat an SL55 by 4-5 car lengths from a stop light like 2 weeks ago. Driver was a mid-20's asian who obviously had no idea what he was doing behind the wheel of such a car.
Maybe he wasn't really racing you.
Having owned a 1999 Flame Red Club Cab Dakota R/T (actually traded it in on the Magnum RT) I can give some insight on these trucks. My particular 99 Dakota only had minor cheap mod's, MP Computer, 160' thermostat, electric fan conversion, K&N, true dual 2.5" exhaust, MSD 6AL ignition, 8.8 mm wires, etc. That thing was a ROCKET off the line and up to about 60. BUT, I could never hook it up. The weights listed earlier in this post are WRONG!!! The DAKOTA R/T with the 5.9 in regular cab form was about 4100 to 4200 lbs! The Club Cabs were about 4300 to 4400 lbs stock.
My 99 R/T would keep up with LT1 6 speed cars, but LS1 6 speeds would take it. I truly MISS being able to punch that throttle at a traffic light and INCINERATE my tires in first and second gear. Punch that truck at 25 mph and get the kickdown to 1st and consider yourself sideways.
Yeah, my Magnum is faster all over, and I can launch this RT. The Dak R/T was probably the last of the true Dodge muscle vehicle. That Magnum 5.9 was so old school it looked like an LA block with a throttle body on it, and you could actually work on it, and Mopar offered performance EVERYTHING for that.
And also, it actually had 3.92 gears, not 3.90's... At least mine did.
So, next time you come across one on the highway, unless it is modded, consider it a kill. Admire it's beauty, because it was also the last of the nice Dakota's. Dodge bastardized the 05 Dakota's.
My truck was not stock. I had a large K&N offroad intake, Hypertech programmer, and exhaust. For traction I used nothing less than a set of cheap autozone traction bars. I never had any problems getting it to hook up. For a dead stop I could spin the tires on any street, any weather. My Extreme was a regular cab, dropped on the ground. I never ran against anything but some full size trucks and that dakota R/T. My buddy had the same truck with more mods and I could take him by a full truck length, granted his was an extended cab. I don't know what it was about that truck but it had balls! Maybe the R/T I ran against just had the wheels, badges, and exhaust of an R/T. All I know is that he jumped at the light and I took him.
I can tell you that even when my Dak R/T was BONE STOCK, it used to eat S-10 Extremes like a pregnant woman eats pickles. Everyone seems to own an S-10 Extreme, and it never got old beating the little kids inside of them. CHevy's idea of a sport truck was racing stripes, ground effects, and well, nothing else. Dodge on the other hand was mostly MOTOR, no racing stripes or ground effects. In fact my 99 R/T beat the new Colorado Extreme. What a turd. When will Chevy make a real sport truck? My old R/T even beat the Silverado SS and they had some great power AND were AWD. Dude, if you had traction bars on an S-10 Extreme, you must have been on drugs because the only way one of those things would spin it's tires was if it was a manual trannie and you dropped the clutch at 5k. Sorry to piss anyone off, but I hate Extremes. There is no difference between them and the stupid rice burners that kids put fart pipes on, run 17's, and call it fast becase it ran 19's stock. Use the wing as a handle and put those things BACK IN THE TOYBOX!
i got my info from cars.com. so i guess blame them
my ranger went 16.0 at the track...and i beat s10s too a dakota rt would destroy an s10.
Now I wouldn't say destroy. At least not a modded S10. I had a 99 S10 with the Vortec 4.6, K&N Intake, Lowered, Flowmaster cat back, Hypertech and that baby would scream! Ran it up against a stock Dakota R/T and stayed pretty close to even with him.Originally Posted by DriveATransam
I have satisfied my concern, valid KILL!!
do you mean the 190 hp 4.3 :D
Probably the biggest thing that made the Dakota R/T a rocket off the line is 350 ft/lb of torque. That isn't as good as our HEMI 390 TQ numbers. It took 350 ft/lb to get that 4300 lbs rolling fast too.
The 4.3 liter is no doubt a good motor. But not a competitor to the 5.9 Magnum motor. THe 5.9 is VERY responsive to bolt on's and tweaking.
Check out the Dakota R/T forums over at Delphi, great people!
People from the Extreme forums used to invade and make asses out of themselves. I haven't followed the Dak R/T forums for a while, but I'm sure it still happens...
Man screw you! I take offense to the drug comment. You need to learn to keep your mouth closed. We were just making comment on the crappy R/T, not bashing anyone or anyone's vehicles. I can tell you that I never had a Dakota R/T run me down! I had to put my second set of tires on at 15,000 miles because I burnt the stock tires off. Oh, and by the way, all of this out of an automatic, with no racing stripes.
When I was at the track two weeks ago, there was a Dakota R/T club cab that ran around 15.5 in the quarter (corrected to about 15.3).
In stock form, they are slow. But, there is a decent modding community around them (I had a 2000 Dakota), and after the basic mods, traction has to be addressed if you want to get near the low 14s.
Remember, this is a truck. R/T designation aside, there are some basic handicaps that need to be overcome.
"Walkin' the thin white line on this smiling road. 40 days, I've been all alone. Draggin' my heart all across this world. I got 100 miles to go before I get back to see my girl. Aint got nothing, I got nothing to lose. I keep walking away these blues. The cup is broken, but it's half full. I got 100 miles to go before I get back to see my girl."
100 Mile Blues - Scott Keeton and The Deviants
Easy folks. Lets keep this on topic and avoid the personal attacks.
My main point was just that stock to stock, it would take an incredibly bad Magnum R/T driver to lose to a Dakota RT. Now I am sure that it happens sometimes, but if you know how to drive it won't happen to you.
I am also sure there are some modded Dakota trucks that would even given a stock SRT8 a run. People do crazy thigns with cars these days.
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Originally Posted by Magman3
Didn't mean to "personally" attack you. Opinions are like *******s, everyone's got one (and let me tell you I've got a big one). I guess I got a little obsessive on my import/Extreme bashing. The whole drug statement was a joke, relax dude. Why am I even apologizing?
Keep my mouth shut? Never have, and probably never will. Way to through the "crappy" R/T in there. They should have made the rear ends on the Dak R/T's prettier looking so Extreme owners havet something nice to look at.
While I fully agree with my statements, it wasn't intended to piss you off, just voice my opinion like 99.9% of everyone on this forum does.
I just remember looking at the last year for the S-10 Extreme at my local Chebby dealer and notice the $29K price tag for a truck that was more show and go. I ended up paying $18K for my 8 month old Dak R/T CC wiht 20,000 miles. And we wonder why GM has financial trouble.
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