dead battery, or dead alternator

[sound&security]

Batteries are rated in months. 36-72 etc. Why would anyone go beyond that? It can short out at any time and leave you stranded. It would be like going 20,000 mi. between oil changes and saying the motor still runs fine. It's going to jump up and bite you eventually if you don't do your preventive maintenance when it's time. Just saying.

with you on this-the electrolite starts to evaporate over years and the plates can become dry and die or short out...they can over heat and bend them selfs over and touch the plate next to them and short the battery so badly that it pops and breaks the case open and acid flys every where...A good amount of the time it will catch on fire...
My 06 charger is on its 3rd battery in 6 years and 46.789 miles.. BUT i live in a hot zone that cooks batterys and a 1000 jl and a 650 jl hooked to it...
Noticed the battery in the car [2nd-3 years old] was wet around the neg terminal so its a new battery before it rots out my trunk or that cell goes dry and i have a short or fire so battery #3 went in on monday
ACID fires are nasty- burned down a mint BOSS 429 mustang like that once...battery was weak-cranked the car till the the starter went click click click than POW...battery blew so hard [sealed battery] parts went threw the radiator-the hood got bent up from the impact and acid flew every where under the hood and caught fire...fire jumped around under the hood from wet spot to wet spot and the hood pad was wet with acid so it went up like paper.. open the hood and what was left of the battery was on fire-the fender soaked with acid burning-the hood pad-the wire harness on the battery side on fire and the fire was traveling up the harness to the fire wall [thats why they call it a fire wall] every where acid was flung under the hood [motor-plug wires-wire harness] was on fire... by the time we could get the factory twist hood locks open it was all over..

[Illinois Chaos]

Yeah in your business I imagine you pay particular attention to batteries. Some people just don't know yet. I know a guy that wears a beard full time, just because a battery blew up in his face, and yes it had passed the warranty period on the side of the battery. The longer the warranty the more lead plates it has, so it should last longer, but not if it was on the shelf 3 years. Like you mentioned hot climates and short trips, jumping another car with it, and many other things affect how long it will last. Just don't compare a battery to an oil change, because those aren't important, lol.

[karfreek]

Yeah in your business I imagine you pay particular attention to batteries. Some people just don't know yet. I know a guy that wears a beard full time, just because a battery blew up in his face, and yes it had passed the warranty period on the side of the battery. The longer the warranty the more lead plates it has, so it should last longer, but not if it was on the shelf 3 years. Like you mentioned hot climates and short trips, jumping another car with it, and many other things affect how long it will last. Just don't compare a battery to an oil change, because those aren't important, lol.

Apples to oranges my friend, apples to oranges. In 34 years I have never had a battery explode, been left stranded, or lost an engine, and I've taken many over 150,000mi so I must be doing something right. There's lots of experience on this board, tap into it.


Jay

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[sound&security]

Yeah in your business I imagine you pay particular attention to batteries. Some people just don't know yet. I know a guy that wears a beard full time, just because a battery blew up in his face, and yes it had passed the warranty period on the side of the battery. The longer the warranty the more lead plates it has, so it should last longer, but not if it was on the shelf 3 years. Like you mentioned hot climates and short trips, jumping another car with it, and many other things affect how long it will last. Just don't compare a battery to an oil change, because those aren't important, lol.

their dangerous...Now i just remember i lost a 72 heavy chevy like that too.
CAR sat in storage for 3 years so i clean it up and put new tires on it than jump start it....battery must have dried out from sitting....Run over to pick up the witch park the car in her drive way-shut the car off and as soon as get out i shut my door the battery blew up.. my guess is that it had a dry cell and over heated causing the plates to touch from low or no electrolite..


Burn baby burn-Disco inferno !!!!!!

[sound&security]

[QUOTE=karfreek;4114459]Apples to oranges my friend, apples to oranges. In 34 years I have never had a battery explode, been left stranded, or lost an engine, and I've taken many over 150,000mi so I must be doing something right. There's lots of experience on this board, tap into it.


Jay

its more commen on vented batterys to explode than a completely sealed battery due to the vents allowing the electrolite to evaporate away....battery acid is mostly water as its base and goes away with heat and cooling cycles from charging and non charging states ..electrical flow = heat

Cushman battery explosion - YouTube

[Illinois Chaos]

Apples to oranges my friend, apples to oranges. In 34 years I have never had a battery explode, been left stranded, or lost an engine, and I've taken many over 150,000mi so I must be doing something right. There's lots of experience on this board, tap into it.

Jay

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Well, since you want to just argue, you should at least get it right. In my post I was speaking to the benefits of preventive maintenance and not comparing oil changes to batteries. I stick to the schedule in the book that the mfg. recomends. I don't want to constantly worry that my battery might go dead at anytime after the warranty expires, or even fool around with oil analysis. Are you kidding me, oil analysis? I just change it and I'm good to go. You can do it anyway you want to. Tap into that.

[Porkchop]

......I stick to the schedule in the book that the mfg. recomends. I don't want to constantly worry that my battery might go dead at anytime after the warranty expires......

So you're telling me you should change the battery every 3 years just to be safe? Because of the warranty? So using your logic I should get rid of my car because it is out of warranty? Not good advice at all.

-Mike.

[karfreek]

Well, since you want to just argue, you should at least get it right. In my post I was speaking to the benefits of preventive maintenance and not comparing oil changes to batteries. I stick to the schedule in the book that the mfg. recomends. I don't want to constantly worry that my battery might go dead at anytime after the warranty expires, or even fool around with oil analysis. Are you kidding me, oil analysis? I just change it and I'm good to go. You can do it anyway you want to. Tap into that.

You do not want to start a keyboard war on Preventive Maintenance. Industrial Maintenance and Reliability Management is what I do for a living and have devoted my life to. I have saved companies hundreds of thousands of dollars by teaching them how to prevent and predict failures and not waste money in parts, labor and down time on maintenance that is not necessary. I have worked for and benchmarked the best of the best in the world and apply the same principles in my personal life. A quality Oil analysis is absolutely worth it's weight in gold and can tell you everything you need to know about your engine and what's going on inside. Keep changing your oil, it's going to help keep your engine running for a good long time. But if you actually want to save time and money get an oil analysis done. You will find that some of the most respected and knowledgeable members of this forum have their oil analyzed. And yes, you did try to compare not changing a battery and its failure to not changing oil and an engine failure. I never worry that my battery will fail. I keep my AAA up to date and my cell phone charged.


Jay

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[Porkchop]

Sounds like a salesman to me lol. I turn the wrench on jobs that salesman sell, if I saw a battery service order come for a battery that is 36 months old I'd go talk to the customer and ask him why he wants a battery. If I'm told that the salesman told the customer it was out of warranty and recommends it I'd slap the salesman in the face lol.

[Tomsriv1]

their dangerous...Now i just remember i lost a 72 heavy chevy like that too.
CAR sat in storage for 3 years so i clean it up and put new tires on it than jump start it....battery must have dried out from sitting....Run over to pick up the witch park the car in her drive way-shut the car off and as soon as get out i shut my door the battery blew up.. my guess is that it had a dry cell and over heated causing the plates to touch from low or no electrolite..


Burn baby burn-Disco inferno !!!!!!

You had a Heavy Chevy? I have never seen one of those in person, but I always thought the name was funny. A big block non-SS chevelle to avoid the insurance premium of an SS. Sorry to hear it burned on you.

[BIGDAVE]

Your in Vegas I would look around maybe in old vegas there has to be a place that rebuilds Alts and starters.Of you search on the web Im sure you can find a kit to rebuild it yourself.Its not tuff

[sound&security]

You had a Heavy Chevy? I have never seen one of those in person, but I always thought the name was funny. A big block non-SS chevelle to avoid the insurance premium of an SS. Sorry to hear it burned on you.

COWL hood-but no air induction...all the SS suspension/ steering and brakes and plan jane inside like a super bee> stripped down to a steering wheel-and bench seats with a colum shift...but it did have all the gauges and that butt ass fugly heavy chevy stripe down the side.

[m37ral]

Ha, thought you were talking about a 5/8 ton pickup!
Oh yeah, those were heavy 1/2 tons.

[pbuli]

So as one of the members suggested. Tho check the alternator with the meter a buddy of mine did and come to find out that is was the a bad alternator now time to look for someone to rebuild it cause cause a lot of auto part stores want more than 300$ for a refurb one. Minus well rebuild this one. I new this forum was a great place to ask questions thanks everyone.

I have am alternator from my 2006 Charger for sale. Only 30K on it. Let me know if interested.

[SFC20]

You do not want to start a keyboard war on Preventive Maintenance. Industrial Maintenance and Reliability Management is what I do for a living and have devoted my life to. I have saved companies hundreds of thousands of dollars by teaching them how to prevent and predict failures and not waste money in parts, labor and down time on maintenance that is not necessary. I have worked for and benchmarked the best of the best in the world and apply the same principles in my personal life. A quality Oil analysis is absolutely worth it's weight in gold and can tell you everything you need to know about your engine and what's going on inside. Keep changing your oil, it's going to help keep your engine running for a good long time. But if you actually want to save time and money get an oil analysis done. You will find that some of the most respected and knowledgeable members of this forum have their oil analyzed. And yes, you did try to compare not changing a battery and its failure to not changing oil and an engine failure. I never worry that my battery will fail. I keep my AAA up to date and my cell phone charged.


Jay

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Oil analysis good for heavy equipment with expensive engines and transmissions. Big waste of money for the average car owner. Change your oil and you will not need to analize it.