ok well i have a 05 mag r/t
id love to put my car into a high 12.9 or better just to say i got a 12 second wagon haha
anyways plans so far are magnaflow catback, intake, thats about it
ive only had this car for little over two months and just figured out my issues with the air ride so wanna work onto the motor now
what are some suggestions?
The best way to do it would be to add headers, heads and a cam. You'd be in the 12s easy. If you want to do it with out heads and cam you will need a lot of other stuff. Headers, catback, intake, predator, UD pulley and drag radials would get you into the very low 13s or maybe upper 12s with good air and some weight reduction. Gears would help out a lot, lots of people are selling their SRT 3.06 gear rear ends because they are swaping them out for getrags. So you could probably get a setup pretty cheap. Or you could just throw nitrous on there now and be done with it. It all depends on how you want to get there and how much money you want to spend.
Originally Posted by JusticePeteMy Pedders ExperienceOriginally Posted by JusticePete
SRT MAX 112 LSA | Inertia Bg Valve heads | SLP Longtubes | Gutted Cats | SLP LM1 | AFE Stage II | 90mm TB | 25% Underdrive pulley | Mopar TCM | Pro Torque 2800 | Getrag LSD | Inertia CMR tuned | Pedder Track II | 402 rwhp 406 rwtq12.3 @ 112
metgo...if one were to go the route of heads, headers and a cam or even juice, wouldn't it be very wise to beef up the bottom end?
If not, at what point should you consider beefing up the bottom end, i.e. crank, rods, main bearings and or even pistons? Is there a HP/Torque benchmark you should not cross before spraying and or adding turbo / superchargers etc.
Thanks to anyone that could help out.
DODGE MAGNUM...its NOT your mammy's station wagon!!!!!
2006 Magnum R/T, Borla Catback, True Cool Oil cooler, 170 tstat. Superchips, Volant CAI.
Guages and piller pods coming soon!! (still working on getting them hooked up)
there are cars running low low low 12's without doing the bottom end, there is no need to.
unless of course youre talking big boost (over 6-7 lbs) or over a 125 shot of spray.
heads and a cam do not require any modification to the bototm end unless you really want to get wild and run high compression pistons.
without doing the bottom end... the max horsepower on motor you can realistically acheive is about 400-420 rwhp
this is a rough number, depending on the dyno. but the fact of the matter is.... you cant really get much higher than that without going into the motor.
people have heads + cam + spray and are seeing in the high 400's and low 500's, and the bottom end is just fine. the catch 22 is they have a rock solid tune and are not cutting ANY corners.
i also know of 1 guy to add a blower to his heads + cam setup at about 5-6 pounds, and made about 520rwhp. stock bottom end.
500rwhp is the mark where you have to start worrying about the transmission, not the bottom end.
the problem with our bottom end is not taht it cant take high horsepower...
its taht it cant take high heat.
big boost or nitrous and the pistons just break.
the rods and crank are damn good from the factory.
heres what you need to get into the 12's on motor without breaking the bank
headers, high flow cats, catback
a cold air intake
25% underdrive pulley
springs, rods, install kit for the camshaft
diablosport predator + custom tune
this is your basic track pack.
if you want to really kick it up a notch and go for low 12s
you can add
rear end (differential, axles, and depending which route you go, a limited slip or gear increase or maybe both)
if there is ANYTHING i can help you with please feel free to PM me and i can put you in teh right direction
Last edited by dudeiwin86; 05-10-2009 at 04:36 PM.
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'06 Silver R/T R&T Fully Loaded [SOLD]
->FRI'd with Street/Strip Heads + Scud Camshaft<- CTP Spacers + 09 Eagle Manifold
-FRI Custom Stepped LT Headers--Getrag 3.06 LSD--DIABLOsport Predator--Powerbond 25% Underdrive Pulley--ProTorque 2800
-FRI PolyMounts--GSM Cold Air Intake--180Tstat--RTJunkieNOESP--MoparTCM--PEDDERS Touring Kit--Billet Tech Throttle Body
Best ET: 12.490 sec @ 113.58 mph +400 DA, 4000 RaceWeight
im running a zex 100 shot, and im on street tires, i have drag radials on the way and i know for sure i will be in the mid to high 12's when i head back to the track.
you can have a 12 second Mag in around $1400 - $1800
C&L intake and Diablo kit from RPM outlet $550
Zex plug ang play kit RPM outlet $570
Drag Radials $ price varies around $400 and up
Remember, you can spend as much as you want, lol, its all a matter of how fast you wanna go!
2005 Dodge Magnum R/T (13.122 at 106.83)- C&L Cold Air Intake, Diablo Predator 93/CAI tune, Zex 100 shot, ARC Bottle Heater w/ pressure regulator, 180 t-stat, Eibach Sportline Springs, Eibach Pro Dampers, 2006 SRT8 Charger Wheels, Yokohama 265 35 20.
well heres kinda where i was gonna think about going,
cai intake, magnaflow catback, diablo, zex 100shot
does 25% underdrive help alot?
sounds like a good plan, with some practice at the drag strip you will be in the high 12's
with a good set of tires in the back and a solid launch you wont even have to try.
good luck with the mods
next question...sub frames? At what point do we want to put in sub frames or is our platform sturdy enough for #'s between 400-500 HP?
sorry to be so ignorant, but I would like to have my baby pampered, but also an occassional flogging would be nice too, without damaging / warping the sheetmetal!
from what i have read up on, there are guys on here running that kind of power and more and dont have the subframe reinforced, i dont see a reason to do it unless you are doing some serious power or just want a stiffer ride, but what the hell, it couldnt help.
the only people doing any kind of subframe stuff is Razors Edge.
even then, no 1 is using it because it is "needed" at at the drag strip.
the people running 10's arent usign it that i know of, and part of the reason is because thse cars are so damn heavy, that losing any weight any how is good, and if you can avoid it, you dont want to add any