I thought it would be better to move this discussion to your sections as not to monopolize Ski Wagons thread. Both 007 and I have asked you for an approximate price on this... I'm still interested... Could you answer the following? :
I've got plenty more questions but I'll leave it at that for now...
- What options in steel grade are there?
- What is the relative strength characteristics?
- What are the relative costs of the different steel options?
- What would be your setup cost/price for producing the first one?
- What would be your manufacturing cost/price for each one?
- If you had some interested buyers, what would be your best guess at a timeline?
- If you manufactured the new gears what would be your quality control measures and assurances to the buyers?
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To make things cheaper redesigning the gears inside would be much easier. I'm working on a way to simplify things inside there to reduce the amount of material and smaller weaker parts. Possibly even a chain system like the gcsrt8. I will get info and post up both options and pricing.
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The only problem is I don't think stronger material for the gears is gonna hold up on very high hp applications with very hard launches. Although will def make it stronger, might not be the best solution. The bed of the input shaft that connects the input shaft to the front wheels is very very thin and would benefit from a thicker bed as that's where these cases break.
I guess it is a matter of degree.
-stage 1 = cryo
-stage 2 = better material
-stage 3 = better material and a better/beefier design
I don't think that I'll live long enough for a better/beefier design so I'll settle on better material for now, depending on the cost.
You got some numbers?
Sorry I've been really busy lately And hAvent been home. I'm gonna gather up some prices this week.
I agree with you regarding the hollow gear, it does seem to be the weak link. Maybe you could start with a price to cut that alone.
Regarding your idea to redesign that gear were you thinking of getting the added strength by adding material to the inside and reducing diameter of the input shaft? It seems kind of like choosing between a rock and a hard place doesn't it? Robbing from one to pay the other. If you try to increase strength by increasing the outside diameter of the hollow shaft then you would have to reduce the diameter of the inner planetary gears and the intermediate gear as well as increase the diameter of the front output gear. This would seem the lesser of two evils for gaining overall strength but would require a lot more gears being re-cut and the potential of clearance issues regarding the front output shaft gear. What were your thoughts?
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I was gonna do exactly that re cut that gear in stronger material and go from there. Redesigning the case I was gonna completely change the whole input style because I am not a fan of it at all. I haven't really chosen what I was gonna do there it was gonna be my last option. I'm gonna start with reaplacin that hollow sleeve and work from there. I will have prices soon.
I just solved my problems with the weak transfer case in the AWD LX: