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    351Freak is offline Supporting Vendor and Enthusiast
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    How Many Folks In The Market For 800+HP Trans...???

    As part of my ongoing quest to help the Mopar scene, I have been in some deep discussions with 2 big names in the transmission business: Raybestos and Alto.

    Specifically trying to get you folks what I consider to be the best clutches on the planet to go inside that marvelous, mysterious slushbox you so lovingly call the NAG1 transmission.

    As such, I wanted to see what kind of immediate interest there is. Current expectation is to have prototypes ready in the next 2-8 weeks for beta-testing. I have testers already lined up...people you will all know and cars that will definitely torture-test these to their possible death (but hopefully not...!!!).

    I will be working with any and all vendors that are open to using these hi-performance clutches on future builds and will actually have a personal stake (my neck and $$$ on the line...heh) in the business, if everything pans out as expected.

    This may be new to some of you...and there may be some vendors that want to stick with what they already have...and that is fine. The only object here is to try and test all of the available options that can possibly give us some much needed improvement in the way of high horsepower applications.

    For those that are asking "why"... the answer is:

    We currently have only 1 or 2 options for clutches that will handle 800 Flywheel HP....let alone 800RWHP. Since it is becoming easier to reach this level with stroker motors and readily available blowers/turbos/nitrous...it is necessary to start looking at other materials that can EASILY handle the extra TQ that these motors are going to put out.

    Alto and Raybestos both offer friction materials that can withsand this amount of TQ and have proven themselves time and time again over the years. When coupled with the extra clutches and higher pressures (and numerous other mods) that some of the builders offer, you CAN wind up with a transmission that can get every Lb/Ft of TQ to the ground instead of wasting it on slippage and heat.

    These 1st tests will hopefully reveal a product that is FAR superior to the current offerings by Chrysler and Benz (and whoever else). (we're talking specifically CLUTCHES here...)

    So chime in...if interested...it's going to get interesting...

    -Freak

    PS- the clutches aren't the only thng in the works... ;-)

    My company name will be posted as "Performance Electronics" when I get setup as a supporting vendor. More importantly, I am NOT trying to compete with the folks that are building transmissions (more like trying to work WITH them)...I'm just trying to give them another option than what they currently have. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY... I do NOT currently build these transmissions for resale and do NOT have plans to do so. My goal is simply to provide yet another quality set of parts (to you or your shop of choice) that can allow YOU to take your MOPAR to another level of performance...without breaking the bank.
    Last edited by 351Freak; 04-23-2009 at 07:29 PM. Reason: update MY info...

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    we talking less than $3500 for a trans?

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    1fastsedan is offline Warranties are for sissies.
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    I'm going to need something. My trans is slipping already. So yes, I'm interested - particularly in an upgrade pack of parts that you could install yourself or have your local trans shop do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 351Freak View Post
    These 1st tests will hopefully reveal a product that is FAR superior to the current offerings.

    PS- the clutches aren't the only thng in the works... ;-)
    Pretty bolt statement man... I'm sure everyone is interested in a tranny upgrade... My question is what experience to you have with these tranny's and how are ur gonna be better then whats pn the market?

    Are you a vendor here? I can't seem to find anything about your company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCG Charger View Post
    Pretty bolt statement man... I'm sure everyone is interested in a tranny upgrade... My question is what experience to you have with these tranny's and how are ur gonna be better then whats pn the market?

    Are you a vendor here? I can't seem to find anything about your company?
    heh....hopefully this brings in some competition!

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    Personally I plan on running a manual (ET's be damned, my car is for fun!), but I know a lot of people will be in dire need of something that can handle a lot more power. Props to you for dangling your johnson out there in the name of R&D! I think more options are better, keeps prices honest. But these guys are going to have to be competitive, the current option has - so far - proven to be a very effective one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemi31 View Post
    heh....hopefully this brings in some competition!

    Competition is always good....if it is indeed competition!

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    I'll edit the original post to include some details about me and what I'm about...sorry about that...

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    Godbless the guys who need this tranny, you make me proud to be a Mopar driver.

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    I know Im planing to rebuild my trans sometime later this year, I personly like secton, and will alway perfer a aftermarket part to a factory upgrade. SO if you sold a cluch kit, or a rebuild kit I would be in the maket. Iron Mike
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    I am planning on doing a blower either december or next jan. Between that and that and my motor I am going to need a new tranny. So, let's see what you got

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    I like the way this sounds. Keep us informed.

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    ***update***

    ALTO has committed... 2 sets of clutches and 8-10 weeks to make em and have them to me...

    I'll have to get my funds together and pay for them up front...no free samples at this deli :-(

    Good news is that the money will go towards an initial order if the prototypes work well... :-)

    Raybestos...well...they don't really do anything FAST...heh (will have to see what the holdup is...)

    -Freak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbilly View Post
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