Fighting a Tint ticket in NYS

[karfreek]

My statement is correct. Your car is subject to the laws that the car is in. On NYS the tint law is written to not take into account registration. Every car is held to the same standards regardless what states plates are on it. In TX the law is written to exempt out of state plates.

I stand by my statement on stock tint. It is only 92-96% transmittance. The exceptions being SUV tint and the blue strip at the top.

The back windows on my magnum registered roughly 20% on the meter. My drivers window which has aftermarket 50% on it registered at 43%. If I put 50% over stock "70%" my fronts should be as dark as my back, they are not even close...




Jay

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[PAPITO]

Pay the ticket bro and just head back here!!

No point in fighting it if it is illegal anyways. Although you are responsible for following the laws and making sure it is up to par for every state that it will be in, having your car registered in NY doesn't make it any easier. If you had FL plates you would have probably reasoned with the officer, but being that it's registered in NY, you have no standing point...

Enjoy the rest of great neck! lol

Hit me up when you get back, we gotta get some firehouse subs

[usafle]

If that's true I've got to call my old buddies at the Sheriff's Department and let them know to start pulling over any car with tint no matter where it's registered. They are missing out on some great opportunities to fill their quotas (not that there is ever such a thing as "quotas" no no no)

I've got to research this... I know NY is an "Orwellian" state but I didn't think it was THAT bad.

Ok, I just spent the last hour texting calling every person I used to work with, from the Local PD, Sheriff's Office, New York State Police and a buddy in NYPD.

If your statement is TRUE, none, not one of them has ever heard of that. Some of them also said if it IS true, they would not be issuing the ticket based on a little known fact of "Commonsense". Some of them are even willing to try to issue a UTT to an out of state car that is in violation of Window Tint, One Front Plate, etc.. just to see what happens because I told them that you said it could be done.

I know I've been "off the road" handling Terrorist Issues now but I do remember some things. This just didn't make sense to me and it still doesn't make sense to I or, any other LEO I know.

Your vehicle is subject to the laws and regs of the state it is driven in regardless of where it is registered.

I just had this verified 6 minutes ago by a person whos job it is to make sure this ticket stands in the court of law.

Jay

[BLKWGN]

Plead not guilty.

[karfreek]

If that's true I've got to call my old buddies at the Sheriff's Department and let them know to start pulling over any car with tint no matter where it's registered. They are missing out on some great opportunities to fill their quotas (not that there is ever such a thing as "quotas" no no no)

I've got to research this... I know NY is an "Orwellian" state but I didn't think it was THAT bad.

Ok, I just spent the last hour texting calling every person I used to work with, from the Local PD, Sheriff's Office, New York State Police and a buddy in NYPD.

If your statement is TRUE, none, not one of them has ever heard of that. Some of them also said if it IS true, they would not be issuing the ticket based on a little known fact of "Commonsense". Some of them are even willing to try to issue a UTT to an out of state car that is in violation of Window Tint, One Front Plate, etc.. just to see what happens because I told them that you said it could be done.

I know I've been "off the road" handling Terrorist Issues now but I do remember some things. This just didn't make sense to me and it still doesn't make sense to I or, any other LEO I know.

It blew my mind too. But that is the way NY wrote the law. The only reason I can think of is because we border so many states that they want to be able to enforce it at any time. They may want to check with the ADA in their district first, they don't want to piss him or her off.

This whole discussion is because I brought up at the dinner table that it is not fair that the snow birds at the end of the street can have 5% on their LaCross Super because they have it registered to their FL address. My wife grabbed the VTL book out of her brief case and looked it up right there, and low and behold my neighbor who is a trooper could write the ticket of he wanted to the way it is written. BTW, his favorite game is "Let me drink your beer and tell you how many tickets I could issue you" lol

Cheers!




Jay

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[tune99]

Just remove the tint, dont know if it still is but my friend got pulled over a few years ago n it was basically a fix it ticket, pulled them off n ticket went away.. put the tint back on at your own risk

[karfreek]

They changed it back when they jacked up all the court fees when the state went broke 4 years ago. The system was corrupt as everyone knew a cop that would sign off on it anyway.


Jay

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[Green_Manalishi]

I stand by my statement on stock tint. It is only 92-96% transmittance. The exceptions being SUV tint and the blue strip at the top.

Jay

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2010 Charger - Stock front windows as delivered from the factory. +/- 2% on the meter:

[NOTPAID4]

Tee and I just recently got pulled over by North Carolina DMV, which in itself, was a shocker. When the officer checked ours with a meter, he said "Who tinted your windows?" We told him we just had then done the day before at a local tint shop and the owner insured us that our was legal. He went on to say... "Well, tell him he did a GREAT job ~ yours is just legal @ 32%." And off we went...

And on another note; My BLUE magnum's side windows passed on one inspection and failed on another. Can't explain that.

[Hemi31]

2010 Charger - Stock front windows as delivered from the factory. +/- 2% on the meter:

Thank you for posting that

[karfreek]

Good to know. And I've seen stock tint register 90-96% (yes, on cars with stock tint). But I will say this my stock challenger windows are much darker than the windows on the front of our PAC using the eye test.

I'm not going to argue it any more, I will agree to disagree and move on.


Jay

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[MOREPWR]

U have to conform to the state laws that u are in. I have Florida tags and get hit in ny all the time. Just pay the tint ticket and call it a day. Any tint is illegal in ny, so just leave it be.

Not true. I can't enforce tint law on out of state cars, UNLESS I can prove the operator or owner is a resident of SC. I have done it.

[MOREPWR]

Your vehicle is subject to the laws and regs of the state it is driven in regardless of where it is registered.

I just had this verified 6 minutes ago by a person whos job it is to make sure this ticket stands in the court of law.

Jay

Then someone needs a new job because they aren't doing the one they have.

[honu]

Tint laws across the nation are inconsistent, if anything. Some states go by the amount of light transmitted through the glass. Others prohibit ANY film, tinted or not, applied to the driver's, passenger's windows or windshield.

I suppose, "technically", if an officer can articulate that an equipment violation creates an unsafe condition, he could issue a citation, regardless of whether or not the vehicle in question is registered in a different state. Then it would be up to the courts to decide whether the " violation" was valid.

Just keep in mind, when traveling outside your home state, law enforcement officers have enough to think about, remembering their own state's laws and regulations. Asking them to be well versed in laws pertaining to all 50 states is unreasonable. "IF" you should be cited out of state for an equipment violation and the alleged violation is legal in your home state, pleading Not Guilty and presenting your case in court is the way to go.

As a practical matter, I usually didn't cite out of state vehicles/drivers for equipment violations regarding tint, front plates and such. However, some equipment violations are universally illegal and I'd issue a cite based on the severity of the unsafe condition. I always tried to balance common sense, officer discretion and concern for public safety.

Of course, there was always some individuals who just couldn't accept a warning or advisal without commenting on my job performance, family history or suggesting that I should find some murder or rapist to "harass"... now, what was it I mentioned earlier, something about "officer discretion"? (lol)

One last thing... none of the officers I ever worked with, took someone pleading Not Guilty and asking for a trial, took it personally. Even in the few cases I lost, I wasn't offended or angry, providing the defendant didn't attack me on a personal level. Most times I'd congratulate the individual on presenting an excellent defense... It's just all part of the job.

[MOREPWR]

Good to know. And I've seen stock tint register 90-96% (yes, on cars with stock tint). But I will say this my stock challenger windows are much darker than the windows on the front of our PAC using the eye test.

I'm not going to argue it any more, I will agree to disagree and move on.


Jay

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Great idea.