I have a STS Twin Turbo on my srt8, and I love it. It's my dd with 600whp,685wtq.
It sounds like no other.
I assure you the habit of modding only gets worse! I know how people on drugs feel. I'm afraid I will start pawning sh*t if I don't get control of myself!
6.1 HEMI, RPM blower cam, 80 lb. injectors, Dual Walbro 255 fuel pumps, D-1SC ProCharger @ 14 psi, Kooks LT's w/High Flow Cats, MagnaFlow exhaust, Paramount Performance High Torque NAG1, Paramount Performance Dominator Torque Converter, DSS driveshaft, DSS 1000 hp axles Suspension-Fully adjustable Pedders, with sway bars and bushings.
Replacement: 2009 CTS-V 628 rwhp 610 Torque / 750 rwhp 775 Torque with wet 100 shot
OP - Some pro's about the STS system would be the fact that the turbos sit higher (better for those winter roads). You can keep your catalytic converters on the car. You get a full custom tune from Rick Squires (owner of STS). On the twin setup, the charge pipes act as a sub-frame connector (stiffens the car up). I believe the price is better. You keep all that heat from the turbos away from your tranny. The sound is amazing because the turbos are right there at the tail pipes. Last but not least, STS's customer service is phenomenal.
You call it turbo lag. I call it launch control !
5.7 Personal Best: Heads, Cam and Spray - 11.46 w 1.59 60'
6.1 Personal Best: Forged, Novi 1500 and Spray - 10.405 1.566 60' @ 129.69
7.4 Personal Best: Aluminum 449 - 10.736 ET , 1.589 60', 125.05 MPH
One of the best parts about putting this turbo kit on is the fact that I get 32mpg on the highway and 20mpg around town. That of course is when I keep my foot out of it. before the turbo I was only getting like 16/26.
So much of the way a turbo car runs is how it was installed and tuned. I don't care what brand or whose kit it is, if it's installed like crap and/or tuned like crap, it will run like crap.
I would like to go turbo but it doesnt seem as easy as my honda and mustang friends. seems thats the price of being different.
Techco CAI, SRT MAX.
wha-gone, like yourself, my car is a daily driver and its primary purpose is to transport my two kids. I'm not looking for the most HP or quickest times -- I've never been to the track and if I do, it would be once a year. I like the idea of a decent bump in HP on 5psi and an increase in gas mileage. The gas mileage part seems to have sold the idea to my wife
I plan to go with the single turbo kit since I don't plan to upgrade the stock internals.
"Prosperity is a great teacher; adversity a greater."
2006 Black Magnum RT AWD - Cherry Bomb Vortex Cat Back, SLP Dual-Wall tips, Volant CAI
2010 Black Jeep Commander Limited
I did the install on my car. I think the install time depends on your mechanical capabilities. My install took about 8 hours on jack stands in my garage. This of course is not counting all the data logging and tuning time. The one thing I can't stress enough is the fact that you do want to take your time and do it right. My STS kit did bolt right up with no fitment issues. I'm not sure if there would be any weird fitment issues with your car being AWD though. You should contact Rick at STS and find out from him. STS is also on facebook. You can post on the STS wall, they are very good about responding to questions.
I will get in touch with STS regarding the AWD fitment. The only part I can think of that may be an issue is routing the tubing to the intake in the front suspension area.
Thanks again for your insight/advice.
No problem! You should be ok up under the front suspension, Im just not sure if you'll have a transfer case in the way or something. You do get a base tune to istall first. After your base tune is installed, you do some data logging with the predator and fill out a feedback form that you email to sts and then they adjust your tune until it its just right for your car. Its all done by email. If you don't have any experience with data logging and/or tuning, it can sound a little intimidating at first but its an easy process once you get into it.
Another thing I would personally do on any kit you get is delete the turbos and oiling system. Then pick up an oilless turbo(s) and use that instead. Its much more DD friendly.
'05 Magnum RT: 392 Twin TC70 Turbo Build
^ yea but are those tubes proven yet? How long have they been on the market for? I know comp makes a great product, I am still just leery of the bearing approach.
PWR 393, Twin 6262mm Turbos, SHR trans, Fore Fuel system, Wilson Hemi Sheet Metal Manifold
880 RWHP 775 RWT at 16 psi and 17* of timing
Tuned by Robert@ Ditos motors
Walk Softly And Carry Two Big A$$ Turbos!!!
Look at the Poopra and Viper forums. They will last about 50k miles before needed a "rebuild". But for what the oiling system alone costs, it is much cheaper to buy a Comp Turbo. I havent heard a single horrible thing about them.
And oilless is nothing new. I believe the Airplane industry has used them.
Last edited by MagnumRT05; 06-30-2011 at 03:11 PM.