Vortech Plus Meth

[SpeedKills]

Has anyone tried this combo? If so, what kind of kit did you use and where did you mount the pump and the nozzle?

[SRT8U]

We have a kit partially installed on my car.
I wuld suggest the Labonte Motorsports kit, give us a call at 877-BMC-RWHP and we can get you set up with everything you will need.

[MOL SRT-8]

CHECK THIS OUT

Pictorial on Installing a Labonte Motorsports Water Methanol Kit

THIS IS HOW I DID MINE ALSO (THE PUMP MOUNTING). BUT NATHAN FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU WILL NEED TO TRIM THE BRAKE DUCT AROUND THE PUMP.
I PUT BOTH NOZZLES IN THE METAL INTAKE TUBE AFTER THE HEAT EXCHANGER BOX, ONE BEFORE AND ONE AFTER THE IAT SENSOR.

[1fastsedan]

I'm running the Labonte kit and it works great! I can get good timing with 0 knock at WOT now. Its a also a good safety addition if you're using the stock short block. It gets the heat out of the cylinder and protects our small ring lands.

[SpeedKills]

Does it matter much whether you put it before or after the supercharger?
I thought it was supposed to spray into the supercharger, but there doesn't seem to be room.

[SpeedKills]

CHECK THIS OUT

Pictorial on Installing a Labonte Motorsports Water Methanol Kit

THIS IS HOW I DID MINE ALSO (THE PUMP MOUNTING). BUT NATHAN FORGOT TO MENTION THAT YOU WILL NEED TO TRIM THE BRAKE DUCT AROUND THE PUMP.
I PUT BOTH NOZZLES IN THE METAL INTAKE TUBE AFTER THE HEAT EXCHANGER BOX, ONE BEFORE AND ONE AFTER THE IAT SENSOR.

Interesting, why one before and one after the IAT?

[MOL SRT-8]

Does it matter much whether you put it before or after the supercharger?
I thought it was supposed to spray into the supercharger, but there doesn't seem to be room.

definity after the superchager and after the heat exchanger.

Interesting, why one before and one after the IAT?

imo if you use 1 you want it after the iat, if you use 2 then one before and one after because you do not want to soak the sensor with water, it will shorten it's life. if you only use one then the iat sensor will not adjust for the drop in air temp.

[landshark]

I have it and just one spray after the heat exchanger...looking at the Heat exchanger left front you will see the tube for the spray!



It's great with a stock bottom end...cars a daily driver and no problem and over 10k with everything installed!

[MOL SRT-8]

^^^ what size nozzle are you running? ^^^

[Bryali]

How about a resurrection for this thread:

I have a Vortech supercharger with a Devil's Own meth kit and I'm looking for a place to put my nozzle. I know I want it AFTER the IAT sensor which will be going in the boost tube right across from the bypass valve. With the close distance of the blower to the intake of the 3.5's there's not a whole lot of room to put the nozzle, especially with the short boost tube and the silicone couplers and clamps and trying to get it away from the IAT sensor. So here's my proposed solution:

I was thinking about putting it AFTER the throttle body, in the plastic immediately after the throttle body flange, right under the vacuum ports. I hope this picture helps to illustrate where I want it--the nozzle would be where the red dot is. It's in a flat spot in between the throttle body flange and the long flat lip created by the top and bottom halves of the intake manifold being joined. This would keep the nozzle completely hidden and would definitely keep the water/meth mixture off the IAT sensor since it's WELL upstream of the sensor and after the throttle body.



The 2 downsides I see with this are:

1) There's ALOT of plastic to drill through compared to the boost tube so the nozzle might be partially recessed in the intake. While I think that would help keep the nozzle from interfering with the airflow I think it might also cause a funky spray pattern. I would think the nozzle should be as close to flush or even protruding into the intake track to get a wider spray pattern, and thereby a better mix with the incoming air for better atomization into the combustion chamber. Help me on this. Would the nozzle being partially recessed in the intake and a resulting narrow spray pattern affect the efficiency enough to cause problems?

2) With the nozzle being this much closer to the cylinders, the meth/water mixture wouldn't have as long to atomize. According to the Devil's Own website, this would be kinda like the mounting location 6--except it wouldn't be direct porting. It's kinda like 5 but also kinda like 6. I don't plan on tuning for the Meth, just taking advantage of the cooling effect of the water for durability and getting the added performance from the meth. However, with this location, the engine will attempt to run rich since the water droplets are bigger, correct? If I don't tune to dump some fuel, my performance will hurt because of running rich. If I do tune to dump fuel, and the meth malfunctions, then I'm running lean on boost and that could mean BOOM!!

Comments anyone?

[Bryali]

^^Anyone?^^

[HEMITECH]

You can look for pics here.I have 2 nozzles right at the throttle body silicone hose and one before the IAT sensor.I have a turbo set up.
Fastest Z06 Corvette In The Country With Methanol Injection

[Bryali]

That's a nice setup but I can't put mine in like that. The distance that you have between your nozzles and the throttle body is about as much distance as I have between the supercharger outlet and my throttle body. Cut that distance in half because the IAT sensor is smack in the middle and then the rest is taken up with the silicone couplers.

Here's a picture of the couplers, boost tube, and such.



The bypass valve and IAT sensor are right in the middle, so putting a meth nozzle in anywhere in the available metal would potentially spray meth on the sensor which, from what I've read, is a bad thing. That's why I was thinking I could put the nozzle behind the throttle body, before the individual runners split up. The boost tube sits in the coupler about an inch so there's not much wiggle room there. I suppose I could put the nozzle in the bent silicone coupler, but I figured the plastic manifold behind the TB would hold the nozzle better than the silicone.

[HEMITECH]

Here's my set up,You need two nozzles at the T/B to get enough through the big intake.You might have to relocate the IAT,you want to spray after the blow off valve.

[eddie t]

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