Do you get everything out of you nitrous bottle ?

[torRed #1169]

Do you get everything out of your bottle ?

Last two times i weighted my bottle I had 2 pounds left and no pressure .



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[RDunn]

u will never get everything out of it. when the bottle gets that low you wont get any nitrous out of it

[Ray@NitroDaves]

u will never get everything out of it. when the bottle gets that low you wont get any nitrous out of it

Correct....as the bottle isused you are having to phase change the liquid to a gas to increase pressure, eventually there isn't enough liquid left to complete a run.

The only way to use all of the nitrous is to keep it in a liquid state.

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...el=139&dept=11

[FlyByU]

The NANO rules

[torRed #1169]

OK
let me do a follow up question.

My bottle is position on a slight angle and I'm not sure if I would get more out if it was positioned straight forward.

Is 2 pounds normal left over ?

Did anyone ever weight their bottle.
I feel like I'm wasting nitrous plus those 2 pounds = $10.

[RDunn]

i usally fill mine up at 4#'s left i dont like running my bottle lower than that. plus they dont empty the bottle's here before they fill them,they just stick them in the freezer then top them off. that way your fill doesnt cost as much each time.

[RobAGD]

Chris - one thing you have to watch is the factory that makes the bottle stamps a weight on them when they are made, and it is typically very close. That tare weight does not count the valve, dip tube and or bottle collars.

With the bottle 100% empty, get it on a good scale and sharpie the weight on it. That will get you a good idea on whats really left.

And a Nitrogen push set up is really a better way to go.

Dan can lend you some info on that.

-Robert

[HEMIDON]

I do 3 run on a bottle then I change it. I have 3 bottles so I don't have to get them filled at the track, most ov the time. Usually I have 2-3 pounds left, sometimes more. By using a cooler and my heater I am able to transfer the unused nitrous unto other bottles. I always carry my digital scale to check the full weight. To transfer the nitrous, I chill one bottle and heat the other to 1500 PSI. Using a 18" piece of line I transfer the juice from the hot bottle to the cold bottle. Most of the time I can take 3 partial bottles and wind up with a 4th full bottle.

[Ray@NitroDaves]

Dan can lend you some info on that.

-Robert

Here is a write up we did recently...

Nitrous Pressure Compensation Systems

This tech article is to explain how a pressure compensation system works as well as the benefits and disadvantages.

What is a Pressure Compensation System?
A pressure compensation system is a system that is designed to compensate for bottle pressure loss. You may know this system from the slang terminology, “push system”. These systems work by using a separate bottle with compressed air or nitrogen that is regulated to a higher flow than the nitrous pressure. By regulating the flow of the compressed air or nitrogen into the nitrous bottle the nitrous pressure will maintain a constant and steady pressure until empty.

Advantages:

• No bottle heater- Since the bottle pressure is regulated and maintains a constant and steady pressure there is no need for a bottle heater. Without a bottle heater there is less amp draw on the electrical system.

• Constant bottle pressure - Since your bottle pressure will not drop throughout the pass your air fuel will not go rich towards the end of the pass. This means flat air fuel curves and ensures constant horsepower throughout the pass.

• No need for two nitrous bottles on high horse power levels- Applications spraying high horse power levels will no longer need dual nitrous bottles to aid in the pressure drop you normally have without them.

Disadvantages:

1. Tune up change- By adding a compensation system your nitrous tune will change. By compressing the liquid nitrous you will see about 20 percent more flow out of the same nitrous jet. (No air bubbles = 100 percent compressed liquid nitrous). As a result on a wet nitrous system you will need to either increase your fuel jet by 20 percent or decrease your nitrous jet by 20 percent.

2. Sanction approval- Not all sanctions have approved these systems for some races and events. Check with the class rules before investing into a system you may not be able to use.

3. Added cost- There is an added cost into using one of these systems. You will have the system cost and additional bottles if needed. You will also have another bottle to have filled. Compressed air pump stations are a little pricey.

4. Bottle fills- Not everyone fills compressed air or nitrogen bottles. Since most systems are now using compressed air check with local paintball shops and speed shops to fill your bottle.


The Nano System:

The Nano system is the first system brought to market as a complete off the shelf system designed to compensate in bottle pressure loss.

This system comes in 10 and 15lb configurations.


Universal and Competition Systems:

Universal- The universal system is designed to work with other nitrous manufactures bottle valves. Not all bottle valves will work. The bottle valve needs to have a port in the side of the valve that vents into the bottle. This port has to be separate from the main valve’s flow that feeds from the bottle’s pick up tube.

Competition System- The competition system comes with a high flow bottle valve. This valve is designed to flow enough volume for high horsepower levels by feeding the nitrous bottle through the accessory port in the side of the valve.

System Design:

The Nano system consist of a high pressure hoop wound bottle and special regulated valve. This special valve with the incorporated regulator comes pre set to 1050 psi.

This system installs a one way check valve fitting into the accessory port on the nitrous bottle valve. A hose will connect the Nano bottle to the nitrous bottle through the Nano bottles outlet fitting to the nitrous bottles check valve fitting.

The Nano system comes with a set of bottle brackets that are designed to hook under your current bottle brackets attaching the Nano bottle to the Nitrous bottle.

I hope that after reading this most of your questions have been answered. If you have any questions please feel free to give our tech department a call at 1-254-420-3630.