Challenger Owners Turbo or Supercharger?

[wephillips]

I have found both a procharger supercharger and a STS twin turbo setup? If it were your car what would you run, they both have their pros and cons.

[X's Revenge]

wep, this has been a big toss up for me as well. I have run a turbo setup in another car, so here is my opinion and i know it will rub those turbo/SC guys the wrong way... but not intended to offend.

I find turbo setups a bit more maintanence and a bit more tempermental. I think turbos belong in 4cyl/6cyl cars as it works with the better compression. I had a turbo 4cyl Lancer, and blew the 4th rod bearing 2 times, not a cheap fix, but it was also due to a poor design with a 5th injector. Anyways, I learned the hard way but by no means would this scar me from turbos.

Now this is where I'm going to get flamed... but I'm old school, but I tend to think that SC's belong on big blocks. And my reasoning is this: They are more efficient on big blocks, they look cleaner, and I find they have better reliability on V8 engines. Now if I'm wrong, than I'm wrong. I'm not dissing the turbo all together on big blocks, but I'm of the thinking that turbos spool up to assist smaller engines and big blocks don't need that assistance to produce power. Now track applications that's a different story, turbo's work better because they spool fast and deliver that punch of power immediately.........

My opinion is to go SC, I think it is easier to maintain, it's more efficient, and I think it tends to work alot more effective with a big block, my neighbor has his Challenger SRT8 with a Vortech Sc on it, and he took me out in it lastnight and I have to admit, f$%K me it was all balls and lots more room to open up as well. I enjoyed it.

[MagnumRT05]

Id suggest a turbo kit, but def not the STS stuff. Do you see how far back the turbos are?! Grab your favorite turbo(s) and make your own kit. It cost me $1000 for wastegates, BOV, intercooler and piping. Add another $1000-2000 for a turbo(s) and other universal/random stuff and you can make a great kit for under $5000. And it will make more power than most of the supercharger kits

[Flmango1832]

Will have to agree that turbos are at times a pain in the ass but i strongly believe that if you willing to be patient with them they perform better than a S/c. So if your lazy and don't want any problem a S/C will make plenty of power and be much less of a hastle

[8yourM5]

Yea but good luck tuning at part throttle for those turbos. I would stay with a supercharger till we get some better tuning that is what I am doing

[FlyByU]

Well until I see a few turbo cars laying down some consistant numbers and decent reliability, Superchargers seem to be the front runner on our platform.

This is strictly on a tuning standpoint and what has been proven to date.

[Flmango1832]

Exactly supercharges are proven that they are reliable and throw down good, consistent times. Turbos have lots of potential.... we'll see

[Ghostface Mag]

wep, this has been a big toss up for me as well. I have run a turbo setup in another car, so here is my opinion and i know it will rub those turbo/SC guys the wrong way... but not intended to offend.

I find turbo setups a bit more maintanence and a bit more tempermental. I think turbos belong in 4cyl/6cyl cars as it works with the better compression. I had a turbo 4cyl Lancer, and blew the 4th rod bearing 2 times, not a cheap fix, but it was also due to a poor design with a 5th injector. Anyways, I learned the hard way but by no means would this scar me from turbos.

Now this is where I'm going to get flamed... but I'm old school, but I tend to think that SC's belong on big blocks. And my reasoning is this: They are more efficient on big blocks, they look cleaner, and I find they have better reliability on V8 engines. Now if I'm wrong, than I'm wrong. I'm not dissing the turbo all together on big blocks, but I'm of the thinking that turbos spool up to assist smaller engines and big blocks don't need that assistance to produce power. Now track applications that's a different story, turbo's work better because they spool fast and deliver that punch of power immediately.........

My opinion is to go SC, I think it is easier to maintain, it's more efficient, and I think it tends to work alot more effective with a big block, my neighbor has his Challenger SRT8 with a Vortech Sc on it, and he took me out in it lastnight and I have to admit, f$%K me it was all balls and lots more room to open up as well. I enjoyed it.

Everything you stated in this post,I've heard sooo many times...Even before the LX's were born...

[JimIsland-SRT8]

I'd say heads/cam and a 150 shot. Sorry, I'm not comfortable with either choice of forced induction on our cars YET.

[viper3ez]

well, i never owned either and while superchargers r more popular, i'ld go with a turbo from sts. i've seen their kit on a charger and a 300 and if i had the coins, u cant stop me from gettting it.

notice i did not identify anyone as better. i just am more impresses by the turboed cars i've seen

[X's Revenge]

^^^ I'm hoping that is a good thing hahaha,

I don't hate either application. Turbo's are sweet sounding with the BOV, wastegates etc.... then again, the rumble of a big block with that SC whine is also damn sweet.

This is one answer you'll never get agreeance on from either side. It all boils down to this, what you think is right for your ride, and right for your budget. Both have pros and cons to them.

I'm in the middle of the fence as I have a V6 car, however I am going to lean towards the SC only because I have the weather factor to deal with and I know turbo's are sensitive to climates with in respect to extreme temps. I still like turbo's and will run them on smaller engines, but I'll be running a SC application on my car.

[Hillbilly]

Id suggest a turbo kit, but def not the STS stuff. Do you see how far back the turbos are?! Grab your favorite turbo(s) and make your own kit. It cost me $1000 for wastegates, BOV, intercooler and piping. Add another $1000-2000 for a turbo(s) and other universal/random stuff and you can make a great kit for under $5000. And it will make more power than most of the supercharger kits

Have you laid down some numbers yet?

[MagnumRT05]

Have you laid down some numbers yet?

Not yet. Im just waiting for the FMIC to ship and thats the last step finally. I went with a big single to begin with, but spooling up at 3200 RPM is a waste. Im hoping to get some dyno runs in within the next 2 weeks and then track times to follow.

[srt007]

wep, this has been a big toss up for me as well. I have run a turbo setup in another car, so here is my opinion and i know it will rub those turbo/SC guys the wrong way... but not intended to offend.

I find turbo setups a bit more maintanence and a bit more tempermental. I think turbos belong in 4cyl/6cyl cars as it works with the better compression. I had a turbo 4cyl Lancer, and blew the 4th rod bearing 2 times, not a cheap fix, but it was also due to a poor design with a 5th injector. Anyways, I learned the hard way but by no means would this scar me from turbos.

Now this is where I'm going to get flamed... but I'm old school, but I tend to think that SC's belong on big blocks. And my reasoning is this: They are more efficient on big blocks, they look cleaner, and I find they have better reliability on V8 engines. Now if I'm wrong, than I'm wrong. I'm not dissing the turbo all together on big blocks, but I'm of the thinking that turbos spool up to assist smaller engines and big blocks don't need that assistance to produce power. Now track applications that's a different story, turbo's work better because they spool fast and deliver that punch of power immediately.........

My opinion is to go SC, I think it is easier to maintain, it's more efficient, and I think it tends to work alot more effective with a big block, my neighbor has his Challenger SRT8 with a Vortech Sc on it, and he took me out in it lastnight and I have to admit, f$%K me it was all balls and lots more room to open up as well. I enjoyed it.

i would have to disagree on turbos having more maitanance than superchargers they both maintanance wise are the same
i would also disagree that but turbos work better on 4 or 6cyl than it would on a 8cyl
technically the turbo would probably work better on a v8 because of the fact that turbo system down fall is boost lag which the way turbo technology has been coming,turbo lag is a thing of the past any ways 8cyl will spool up a turbo system alot more effortlessly than the smaller motors
as for s/c beeing more efficient than turbos i cant agree with u there because of the fact s/c rob power from the motor to make some in return, turbos run off of wasted energy no power robing there
with s/c you have belt slip which equals to power loss and tightening those belts to tight after a while takes it toll on the crank nose not mention the fact to up the boost
you have to change out pullies on a turbo u hit a button on you boost controller and your done
turbos have much more power potential than a s/c
to tell u the truth to me the only downfall a turbo system has is the amount of heat turbos bring to the engine bay and the amount of space they take up dont get me wrong i love s/c's and they have their feel to them which i love, turbos and s/c are both great but turbos do have the upper hand

[adamwahhab]

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