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    How are you running this on stock 5.7 heads? Did you swap out the valve springs?




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    Quote Originally Posted by JarZ View Post

    6.1 is much easier since you don't have to remove the heads if you're only doing a cam swap.
    Is this the same "Super Spartan" that Stu & I cooked up back in '09?

    Stu had the master done for me & I got the 1st one off W/a 113 LSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToDieFor View Post
    You don't have to remove the heads for a 6.1 cam swap????????
    Nope... and if you are a careful person.. you dont have to on a 5.7l either! Done it myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    How are you running this on stock 5.7 heads? Did you swap out the valve springs?
    Yep. I was doing headers too so it all made sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    Is this the same "Super Spartan" that Stu & I cooked up back in '09?

    Stu had the master done for me & I got the 1st one off W/a 113 LSA.
    I had heard this was one you had a hand in. This one is 112 LSA, though. Nice little off-the-menu item...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Hammer View Post
    Nope... and if you are a careful person.. you dont have to on a 5.7l either! Done it myself!
    I was doing headers anyway and while springs can be done without pulling heads, sounds like a PITA...
    Now that I have headers and 6.1 springs in place, if I ever changed the cam again
    (no plans to) I would not pull the heads. The lifters lay a lot more horizontal than the old-school V8's so I would trust magnets to hold them away. I do miss the old motors where you pull off the intake and all the pushrods and lifters are sitting right there.
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    I'm running the cam I got from Powerwagon896 Super Spartan in my 5.7 and it's a beast! Very Streetable and a TON of torque whenever you want it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by injunwiz View Post
    I'm running the cam I got from Powerwagon896 Super Spartan in my 5.7 and it's a beast! Very Streetable and a TON of torque whenever you want it!
    Your's is on a 113 LSA Jon. Makes the TQ come on a bit sooner.

    Set your rev limiter to 6700 RPM, get those 3.06s in, slap on some 25.7" M/T Drag radials & hang on. Come out of the chute in drive, then slap the shifter left to hold 2nd gear in autostic. het that MTCM sorted out, hold 2nd gear for a 6500-6600 RPM shift to 3rd (you'll have to time this shift about 500 RPM below that point to get the shift @ 6600 RPM) & hold 3rd all the way to the traps.

    If you get the car down near 4000# & your tune is right, you should be knockin' on the 11 second club's door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    How are you running this on stock 5.7 heads? Did you swap out the valve springs?
    Quote Originally Posted by 07RT View Post
    Yep. I was doing headers too so it all made sense.


    I had heard this was one you had a hand in. This one is 112 LSA, though. Nice little off-the-menu item...


    I was doing headers anyway and while springs can be done without pulling heads, sounds like a PITA...
    Please tell me you milled .030" off the head decks.
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    [QUOTE=PowerWagon896;3929822]
    Quote Originally Posted by 07RT View Post
    Yep. I was doing headers too so it all made sense.


    I had heard this was one you had a hand in. This one is 112 LSA, though. Nice little off-the-menu item...


    I was doing headers anyway and while springs can be done without pulling heads, sounds like a PITA...
    QUOTE]

    Please tell me you milled .030" off the head decks.
    We can only get 91 octane out here so left the compression as is for now. Great idea, though.

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    i have the ss cam 112lsa with inertia performance heads and stu's tune. i just now started running it a little harder since i just got thru with the break in stage. I got a new 5.7 motor from him as well i cant wait to get it down to stu to have it dyno tuned for a peace of mind. the email tune runs great though, it feels like it has a ton of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1967lowrod View Post
    i have the ss cam 112lsa with inertia performance heads and stu's tune. i just now started running it a little harder since i just got thru with the break in stage. I got a new 5.7 motor from him as well i cant wait to get it down to stu to have it dyno tuned for a peace of mind. the email tune runs great though, it feels like it has a ton of power.
    How long ago did you install it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    Bout time this cam gets plugged into some more engines.

    Get some heads on it that will breath W/a 6.1 intake manifold & hang on.


    I was never able to get mine dialed in, but it wouldn't surprise me if a 4000# 5.7 powerwed LX that was geared right (3.30ish) W/the right convertor & a proper tune got into 11.5s N/A.
    I wish hitting 11's in Southern California was that easy.

    To the thread starter, sounds like a nice cam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitehemi View Post
    I wish hitting 11's in Southern California was that easy.

    To the thread starter, sounds like a nice cam.
    This cam was cooked up by Stu & myself back in the late winter early spring of '08/'09.

    What is is basically is a Comp 268 on steroids. Same basic duration but a more agressive opening ramp on the lobes & a bit more lift.

    It was supposed to be 216/220, but it came out to 215/219 @ .050" lift. Lobe lift is 3.40"/3.39 respectively IN/EX netting .561/.570 @ the valve, 113 LSA & ICL is 111. (these spec's came from the cam card) There is minimal but adequate (IN) PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    The whole idea was to achieve the mid range TQ of a "bigger" cam W/O sacrificing the low/midrange TQ of the Comp 268 class cam. Max HP is @ 6250 RPM W/a flat power band to about 6600 RPM.

    The cylinder cranking pressure is in the 230# range yet W/a .030" head deck reduction (.035: quench) it takes lots of spark advance in stride. (bear in mind that I run a 160* TSTAT @ the track & on the dyno to combat detonation @ the low end)

    & the ICL is escapes me but there is minimal but adequate PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    By Golly 235# Was Not Far Off!

    The drivability is excellent & it barely give's up the fact that the car does not have a stock cam due to a well mannered 750 RPM idle.

    Fuel economy is also great W/25+ MPG @ interstate speed W 3.23 gears in the diff. It's a good moderatye grind that is a compromise between drag strip & DD performance.

    The numbers in my sig were achieved W/this cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 07RT View Post
    How long ago did you install it?
    well i bought the entire package motor, heads, and cam at the end of november. I finished the install in my car about 3 weeks ago and have been driving it since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    This cam was cooked up by Stu & myself back in the late winter early spring of '08/'09.

    What is is basically is a Comp 268 on steroids. Same basic duration but a more agressive opening ramp on the lobes & a bit more lift.

    It was supposed to be 216/220, but it came out to 215/219 @ .050" lift. Lobe lift is 3.40"/3.39 respectively IN/EX netting .561/.570 @ the valve, 113 LSA & ICL is 111. (these spec's came from the cam card) There is minimal but adequate (IN) PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    The whole idea was to achieve the mid range TQ of a "bigger" cam W/O sacrificing the low/midrange TQ of the Comp 268 class cam. Max HP is @ 6250 RPM W/a flat power band to about 6600 RPM.

    The cylinder cranking pressure is in the 230# range yet W/a .030" head deck reduction (.035: quench) it takes lots of spark advance in stride. (bear in mind that I run a 160* TSTAT @ the track & on the dyno to combat detonation @ the low end)

    & the ICL is escapes me but there is minimal but adequate PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    By Golly 235# Was Not Far Off!

    The drivability is excellent & it barely give's up the fact that the car does not have a stock cam due to a well mannered 750 RPM idle.

    Fuel economy is also great W/25+ MPG @ interstate speed W 3.23 gears in the diff. It's a good moderatye grind that is a compromise between drag strip & DD performance.

    The numbers in my sig were achieved W/this cam.
    I sell and install a ton of Stu's parts, nothing but good things to say about Stu, it's just really hard maybe impossible to get a N/A 5.7 in the 11's at Fontana. Regular DA of 2500 to 3500 and the finish line we just surveyed Jan 7th is 12 ft higher then the start line at the staging lights. Fontana is the only 1/4 mile track in Southern California unless you count Famoso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWagon896 View Post
    This cam was cooked up by Stu & myself back in the late winter early spring of '08/'09.

    What is is basically is a Comp 268 on steroids. Same basic duration but a more agressive opening ramp on the lobes & a bit more lift.

    It was supposed to be 216/220, but it came out to 215/219 @ .050" lift. Lobe lift is 3.40"/3.39 respectively IN/EX netting .561/.570 @ the valve, 113 LSA & ICL is 111. (these spec's came from the cam card) There is minimal but adequate (IN) PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    The whole idea was to achieve the mid range TQ of a "bigger" cam W/O sacrificing the low/midrange TQ of the Comp 268 class cam. Max HP is @ 6250 RPM W/a flat power band to about 6600 RPM.

    The cylinder cranking pressure is in the 230# range yet W/a .030" head deck reduction (.035: quench) it takes lots of spark advance in stride. (bear in mind that I run a 160* TSTAT @ the track & on the dyno to combat detonation @ the low end)

    & the ICL is escapes me but there is minimal but adequate PTV clearance @ TDC on th EX/IN cycle when plugged in straight up.

    By Golly 235# Was Not Far Off!

    The drivability is excellent & it barely give's up the fact that the car does not have a stock cam due to a well mannered 750 RPM idle.

    Fuel economy is also great W/25+ MPG @ interstate speed W 3.23 gears in the diff. It's a good moderatye grind that is a compromise between drag strip & DD performance.

    The numbers in my sig were achieved W/this cam.
    So does this cam make more power/torque than the SRT MAX in a 5.7 if both are set up with the same heads and intake, or is the super spartan offer more bottom end, mid range or top end?

    Im kicking myself right now thinking if I went with this cam I could be in the 11 second club......
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