Traveling Trophy

[FlyByU]

JMatt brought up a great idea while in chat today. Lets get a traveling trophy for the fastest LX in specific classes. When you are the record holder, you get the trophy/plaque mailed to you. You sign it and keep it until your record is broken. When its broken, you mail it to the person that then holds the record.

Break it down to several competative classes. These are just an example:

removed what I had before and replaced with this spread sheet that Carfinish came up with.

[FlyByU]

Not sure how to handle the Density Altitude issue. Guess we can get as technical as you want. Sounds like fun to me

[Leadfootluke]

Hey I had input as well!

lol.

I like the idea!

[rtr0id]

How does the NHRA and other sanctioning bodies deal with records and DA?

You want the record? Do what ya gotta do, spend what ya gotta spend.

It only takes one thing to go fast....MONEY.

[FlyByU]

Talked to a couple of the guys. First we need to firgure out who are the current record holders in each class. Once we have established that, we can get that person to pickup a plaque of their design to start the process. Once their record is beat, pass it on.

How do the classes sound to everyone? The weight limit too low?

[FlyByU]

If any vendors want to sponsor it, make us up a plaque or two with their logo on it. Seems simple enough.

[CplDaugherty]

4200lbs?? I'm under that even at full street weight.

Last time I weighted I was 3950 with a 1/4 tank and no passenger seat. 3850 the weekend before that with the same (dunno why the difference)

Not that I would win any of them, but just thought I'd throw my numbers out there.

Great idea though... it'll make this spring VERY interesting.

[FlyByU]

Totally understand CPL. Not sure whats a good number to use as a limit. My car weigh's 4500 on race day. Should their be different weights for each class? Is their a significant difference? Lookin for input. This should be fun regardless.

[JMatt]

Density altitude has go to be ignored. "Corrected" times are too unreliable. The NHRA only has a couple of tracks where they index for altitude. Beyond that, power adder cars can just up the power baseed on D.A.

I realize some NA cars in Denver will need a lower track, but there's not a way to adjust for that.

I'd refine the classes and expand on definitions a little:

First: Four primary classes.

V-6 stock displacment
5.7L stock displacement
6.1L stock displacement
Big displacemet (392 and bigger)

Then within each class, I'd suggest the following:

Stock: In stock I'd allow the following mods: CAI, Exhaust mods, thermostat, PCM programming.

Modified: All mods allowed in "stock" plus heads and cams

Power adder: All mods from stock and modified classes PLUS any power adder, including nitrous, turbo, &/or supercharger.

By definition, the "Big Displacement" class only would have "Big Displacement" and "Big Displacement w/Power Adder" classes.

Finally - an "Unlimited" class. I'd suggest the car starts out as an LX, and the block starts as a block originally sold for the LX platform.

I'd suggest no weight rules, because they're impossible for many to verify. However, at a minimum the "stock" and "modified" classes should have full interiors.

In this concept - the more classes the better. In my eyes, the "travelling trophy" could be as simple as a dollar bill that people sign when they hold the record, then forward on when they lose the record. It could be a "LXForums" certificate that people add their name to.

The idea isn't to be pricey, but to encourage some comraderie amongst racers from around the country, regardless of vendor affiliation, location, etc.

Any comments?

[CplDaugherty]

I totally agree buddy.

Not sure why my car is so light, prob the lack of options on her. But there may be others that are the same. Maybe not any weight limits but limit what can or can not be taken out of the car? That'd all be on the honor system I guess...

EDIT:

Well putt Matt. I agree 100%

[FlyByU]

I like it, we are making progress.

[HEMI~C~]

Dan/Matt, this sounds like a lot of fun. Just taking a quick look at the rules as they are being developed and I see we are leaving some of the 5.7 stroker guys out....those that are in between the 370 cube 6.1 class and 392+ cubes of the Big Displacement class.

Maybe the big displacement class could be more of a "stroker class" anything outside a factory configuration? This is class is similar to power adders in that no one can tell how much or little to go with here.

[JMatt]

Dan/Matt, this sounds like a lot of fun. Just taking a quick look at the rules as they are being developed and I see we are leaving some of the 5.7 stroker guys out....those that are in between the 370 cube 6.1 class and 392+ cubes of the Big Displacement class.

Maybe the big displacement class could be more of a "stroker class" anything outside a factory configuration? This is class is similar to power adders in that no one can tell how much or little to go with here.

I guess I didn't realize there was a stroker motor setup smaller than 392.

Don't the 5.7L guys at least go up to 392 anyway? What other size exists?

I'm sure we could have "5.7L Modified displacment" and "6.1L Modified displacement."

That might make it simpler.

[FlyByU]

Ya, thats how i had it. Just trying to think of setups that would compete with each other. 392 is pretty close to the 6.1

[JMatt]

Ya, thats how i had it. Just trying to think of setups that would compete with each other. 392 is pretty close to the 6.1

Actually, 6.1L is closer to 5.7L than it is to 392.

I was just thinking anyone who's modified displacement would be in the biggest category. Otherwise you're arguing about 425 vs 426, 392, 395, 396, etc.

I think it's safe to say that most of the people who've gone to the lengths to change displacment are at the peak of the pyramid regardless of which version they chose.