***SEE POST #17 FOR POST-CAM DYNO RESULTS***
Decided to head out and have some fun today and have a baseline dyno done on my AWD Magnum RT. Dyno was done at ESP performance in Sterling MA on a Mustang Dyno and peak values are corrected.
Mods are: Shorty Headers, High Flow Cats, Catback Exhaust, aFe CAI, 85mm ported throttle body, SLP 25% underdrive pulley, 180* thermostat and Diablosport Predator tuner. All pulls were done in ESP Dyno mod (ABS/BAS/ESP all turned off).
I did two baseline pulls with a Level 1 tune from HHP, best one with AFR's shown below.
Results sheet for HHP Level 1 tune shown below.
Now here's a CMR tune from Johan at Diablosport with AFR's shown below.
Results sheet for Johan's CMR tune shown below.
Now here's a comparison of the two curves.
I'm pretty pleased with my baseline results on the Mustang dyno and it being an AWD.
Final Numbers with Johan's tune yielded a little better hp/trq/AFR results.
298 AWHP, 329 AWtrq and it looks like the AFR's could be leaned at WOT in the 3800-4800 rpm ranges. I'll take away a little fuel in those RPM ranges, as I know I have a little added.
Videos were taken and I will post them on youtube later.
Now I can't wait to see how she fairs after I get my sidewinder cam installed!
Last edited by cleary524; 10-22-2010 at 07:16 PM.
2005 Magnum RT AWD 344AWHP/358AWTRQ
FRI Sidewinder Cam, Johan Tune, Edelbrock Headers, JBA Hi-Flo Cats, Magnaflow Catback, 180* T-stat, aFe Stg II CAI, 85mm Throttle Body, SLP 25% UDP, Catch Can, Taylor Shortys, Freak351 Trans Box , Eibach Pro Kit Springs & R1's. Interior, Engine & "M" Emblems by Billet Tech, R/T Emblems, Magnum R/T Grille, Black Heads & Tails, Eyelids
Great looking numbers! I know the tune Johan did for my car made a huge difference and I hadn't even had the Airhammer on yet!
2006 Charger Brilliant Black R/T w/R&T Package
6.1 Arrington based 426 Hemi @ 13:1 compression
408rwhp/425rwtq on MustangDyno @ TDP Automotive
on very conservative (safe) tune
do they have tuning capability ?
Lou -05 Magnum RT AWD ---> FRI'd 392
I have been interested for a while to make the trip down to ESP performance to get some tuning done ever since I had my Sidewinder cam installed. How was the overall experience you had with the shop down there?
2006 Jeep GCSRT-8
Mods:Mopar CAI-SW Long Tube Headers-High flow mid-pipes-Corsa/Mopar Exhaust-Diablo Trinity-Custom Tune
-FRI Little Boy Camshaft-Mopar TCM-Innovate LC-1
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
-Gone but not forgotten
I'm happy.......for now!
Last edited by cleary524; 08-18-2010 at 03:42 PM.
That's awesome Kevin ... your car is up about 30 hp and 30 ft-lbs over what mine did on the same dyno (at the time, mine was running the canned 93CAI tune, with Mopar CAI and JBA cat-back) ... those guys are great to work with .... I so wish that they were closer ... lol
- Former owner of a 2007 Charger R/T AWD -
Rest In Peace Mom (1947-2010) ... I will love you forever ... I miss you ...
'13 Mustang GT 6-spd man, Sterling Gray, Recaro seats, Track Pack.
- ordered 6.6.12, born 7.25.12, mine 8.11.12 -
'10 Focus SE sedan, auto, Sangria Red
Definitely make sure you get with Johan to fix that AFR, one its all over the place and two its way too rich all across the range. Would be nice to see the results once you actually have an AFR "CURVE" opposed to the massive dip and then heartbeat afterwards.
Charlie - 07' SXT Brilliant Black
It took me about 45 minutes to get to ESP from where I live....how far away are you?
Doesn't really matter anyway....this pig is getting a bump stick in a month...tune time all over again!
Last edited by cleary524; 08-18-2010 at 11:20 PM.
Kevin, what wideband setup was being used do you know (not sure if it were yours or the Mustang Dyno's)?
With the cam, then sorting the AFR curve out some more, then playing with some advance you should be sitting very healthy powerwise. For NA I like to tune to 12.2-5 peak torque then lean it out some to 13.1-3 for peak horsepower, trying to keep a nice gentle AFR throughout the transition from pk tq to hp, then richen it up in case it over revs. GL and will keep an eye out on the post cam figures.
Looking forward to the after numbers!
2005 Mineral Gray AWD Hemi Registry # 1154 Comp Cams 260 cam, Blastin' Bobs 9db, Dual Flowmasters, Gibson Shorty Headers, JBA High Flow Cats, Frankentake CAI, Techco Strut Barce, Taylor Shorties, 180 thermo, 85mm TB, Flastech Halos, Predator-tuned by Diablotoona. 2008 Magnum BB R/T Hemi Registry # 1584 PPP Stage 2 Cam, JBA Shorty Headers, JBA High Flow cats, Heartthrob Exhaust, Eagle Intake, 85mm BBK TB, LMI Intake, SMF Strut Brace, lowered, Tuned by Diablotoona
The Hemi engines like an A/F ratio of 12.5 for safest/best overall combo, for a naturally-aspirated engine.
Boosted applications need it richer, something in the 11.xx:1 range I believe ...
FRI Econo Heads & FRI Sidewinder: Installed @ BFNY by Hemi31 with special guest Fnkychkn, JBA Shorties, JBA/HHP hi-flow catted mids, stock SRT8 cat-back, C&L CAI.
HUGE thanks to Hemiwagn and HalfFast Performance for making it all possible.
Kevin, correct on the 12.5'ish for maximum safe peak torque, however by leaning out your AFR slightly you will transition your power curve higher up and quicker for peak horsepower. Rather than making +5rwhp at peak, you can make +7 at peak, but the entire area under the curve will increase more than the before dyno. This my friend is what puts you first place, the area under the curve.
Once fueling is done, sort back through the timing, one or two degrees of advance may also net you more power under the curve. Just make sure your tuning for no knock retard, and once advance is set, take another look at your AFR (retarding timing may richen up the AFR, and advancing may lean it out).
Again, best of luck with it and will be looking for the progress on the cam.