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    05 vs. 06/ 4spd vs. 5spd

    So I was doing some research and noticed that the SXT went from 4-speed to 5-speed, is there a huge difference in the two, I noticed mine is real laggy with LONGG gears..anyone experience both?

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    You kinda have to describe which one you have man.
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    I'm guessin he's got the 4speed (like me), with the lonnnng comment... 3rd gear redlines way up past 80mph.... forget exactly where...
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    My wife gets mad if I let the rpms go redline when I am passing someone.

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    I have an 05 Magnum with the 4 speed and my wife has an 06 300 with the 5 speed. Her car feels peppier off the line and seems to get better gas milage. This could also be due to the Magnum being heavier though. The 5 speed also seems to shift better and hold the gears and rpms better. The 4 speed seems to have the engine rpms drifting around maybe unlocking the torque converter when the load changes such as going uphill. If I had the choice I would pick the car with the 5 speed.
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    I have the 06 SXT with the 5 speed. I would be curious to know if one is quicker than the other off the line. Anyone know what the gear ratios are for each?

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    When test driving the 05 AWD felt pepier than the 05 RWD. I can't imagine that the diff gears are that much different between the two, so I'd think the 5 speed is the main difference. Also not long after I bought the car I stumbled across a SXT RWD Maggie that wanted to race me on the highway, and while I wouldn't say I walked him, he did never stand much of a chance ether. Keeping in mind the AWD is heavier I'd have to guess that the trans was the main advantage.

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    I have the 4 speed stock box. My father has an '06 300 Touring with a 4 speed auto stick, just like I used to have in my 1998 Intrepid ES, (but did not have in my 2002 Intrepud ES!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagNite View Post
    I have the 06 SXT with the 5 speed. I would be curious to know if one is quicker than the other off the line. Anyone know what the gear ratios are for each?
    42RLE (4 speed)
    1st Gear 2.84:1
    2nd Gear 1.57:1
    3rd Gear (Direct) 1.00:1
    4th Gear (Overdrive) 0.69:1
    Reverse Gear 2.21:1

    NAG1 (5 speed)
    1ST 3.59:1
    2ND 2.19:1
    3RD 1.41:1
    4TH 1.00:1
    5TH 0.83:1
    REVERSE 3.16:1



    Quote Originally Posted by CANDYAPPLE View Post
    I have the 4 speed stock box. My father has an '06 300 Touring with a 4 speed auto stick, just like I used to have in my 1998 Intrepid ES, (but did not have in my 2002 Intrepud ES!)


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    in LXs, autostick is only available with the 5 speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnkychkn View Post
    42RLE (4 speed)
    1st Gear 2.84:1
    2nd Gear 1.57:1
    3rd Gear (Direct) 1.00:1
    4th Gear (Overdrive) 0.69:1
    Reverse Gear 2.21:1

    NAG1 (5 speed)
    1ST 3.59:1
    2ND 2.19:1
    3RD 1.41:1
    4TH 1.00:1
    5TH 0.83:1
    REVERSE 3.16:1



    in LXs, autostick is only available with the 5 speed.
    Thanks Pete. I thought the 300 was a five speed, but when I drove it on Friday and used the auto stick, it only showed 1, 2, 3, and 4! Is it supposed to show 5th gear on the selection indicator?

    I know my Intrepids were 4 speeds.

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    No, when it is in D that is the fifth gear

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    Now, I wonder which is the more reliable of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CANDYAPPLE View Post
    Thanks Pete. I thought the 300 was a five speed, but when I drove it on Friday and used the auto stick, it only showed 1, 2, 3, and 4! Is it supposed to show 5th gear on the selection indicator?

    I know my Intrepids were 4 speeds.

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    those using superchips can get it to display 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnkychkn View Post
    those using superchips can get it to display 5.

    Veeeerrrrrryyyy Interesting!! Thanks!


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    My old '93 Eagle Vision had the 4 speed, no sure if it had the same gearing as used today but by Fnky's ratios I'd bet they're at least very similar today.

    It's the 1st and 2nd gears which are the "money gears" in the NAG1 vs. the 4 speed (though I've grown to love 3rd too and wish I could hold 3rd while dropping the pedal on the highway but the TCM insists on downshifting below 3700 rpm).

    The NAG1 keeps pulling in 2nd where the my old 4-speed LH would go flat in 2nd. This certainly jives with Fnky's posted gear ratios.

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