What kind of deals on 2012's are people seeing?

[srt8_hmi]

SuperBee for $38k

New 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8 Superbee For Sale in Atlanta & Marietta, GA | 2C3CDXGJ8CH209273

[karfreek]

My dealer has them marked down on the lot $3,600 on the tag on the mirror before you even talk to someone.

Jay

[furious70]

just bought my 2012 SE with 8spd, BT, Sat, sport appearance for $4510 below sticker.

[ekaz]

I got my '12 300 SRT under sticker as well.

[frank1966]

I got a 2012 RT road and track with STP, forged al wheels, for 6k under invoice back in Early Feb, i also missed the beats radio and the pearlstreak blue! Iam wondering there were better deals in early year because i ordered that car. I suspect you can get a better deal erly in the year in winter even with an ordered car? I could be wrong

[dline]

they have employee pricing on srt's now

[drksyd]

I'm in the process of getting a pretty much fully loaded 300 SRT8, just don't have the panoramic moonroof. I've been looking all over the web for a black SRT Charger or 300 and this one just popped up on eBay today (for me, Sunday). Jumped on it before somebody else beat me to the punch. MSRP is $56830 and the auction was a buy it now for $49995. Shipping would have costed me $2600 so I offered them $52000 shipped, so in essence I got the car for $49395. I think that was a pretty good deal at nearly $7k off MSRP.

[jojofry]

I got my r/t with track pack w/beats audio the brushed wheels in blue for 31,500.. It stickerd for 36,500 .I wanted a superbee i just didnt want the payment..[ATTACH]43878

[fabian421]

I don't understand the concept behind taking thousands off of MSRP for a new car. If you want it that bad, pay for it. There's no reason to grind your salesperson down to the point where he's making almost minimum wage selling $40k+ cars. On average we spend over 4 hours with a buyer! This is one of the few businesses that is villified for making a reasonable profit. Unfortunately greed gets the best of most people...managers AND buyers. The most pleasant sales experience is had by the buyer who doesn't give himself an ulcer trying to save another $500, after the car has already been discounted.

Here's a neat experiment ... walk into WalMart, pick something up off the shelf, and demand to pay less than what they paid for it. And then proceed to get laughed at.

[karfreek]

MSRP is a starting point. Everything is negotiable, if you pay full retail for anything you are not valuing the hard work it takes to earn your money.

I will never buy the car salesman that cries poverty. I know plenty that make $100,000 plus. If you do it right, it is very lucrative. You want the sale, work for it.

That being said I got my 2011 Challenger in the spring buying season for less than I could buy a used for.

You don't want to make the deal, I will find the dealer that will. It's one sale for you, 60 payments for me.


Jay

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[Hank1946]

I don't understand the concept behind taking thousands off of MSRP for a new car. If you want it that bad, pay for it. There's no reason to grind your salesperson down to the point where he's making almost minimum wage selling $40k+ cars. On average we spend over 4 hours with a buyer! This is one of the few businesses that is villified for making a reasonable profit. Unfortunately greed gets the best of most people...managers AND buyers. The most pleasant sales experience is had by the buyer who doesn't give himself an ulcer trying to save another $500, after the car has already been discounted.

1. What I want and what I can afford are two different things!!!!! What you got and what you will sell it for are two different things!! That is why I got a $39,000 2011 300C for $27,995 + $595 FOR PRE INSTALLED LO-JACK WHICH I CONSIDER STOLEN FROM ME. I say that because I did not need it and did not lower my insurance 1 penny. So that is why my payment is 318.85 instead of $439.00 that's with $10,000 down. This was the most interesting thing I ever bought! The ad said $27,995.00 guaranteed when I got there they said somewhere around $31,000 as always that salesmen goes away and another comes back with a paper with $3,854 in tax's in the county I live in it is 7.75% which is $2169.61 there county no more than .5 % more. They try to say I have to pay tax on the sticker price well that does not work as tax is only on the discounted part of the sale there were no factory rebates just a discount listed!!!! First shady part of the deal second salesmen leaves and third person from financing comes back says that the car is 28 plus 1400 for lo jack and some chemical spray they say they put on it this time proper tax and 10% financing we go around a bit. As I don't go to buy without finding out what I should pay. I Let him know that I should be in the lowest % which was 2.9 at the time and I was not going to pay for the extras. Now he says what do you expect to pay I pull out the ad which says $27,995.00 guaranteed he say let me see. He comes back and now he wants to add the extras and now has a 2.9% financing well I am not happy with that I let him know. My wife and I are getting up and going out the door we are at the car and they had parked another vehicle behind it. I turn around and as I get to the door the very first salesmen I talked to on the phone comes out and says they will split the cost of the package. As I really did not know about Lo jack and did know the spray is gimmicky I thought LO JACK would help I asked my wife and could tell by the look in her face she wanted it as much as I did. I said yes and the rest is history. So if "I don't understand the concept behind taking thousands off of MSRP for a new car" I would have paid $39,000 and about 13% tax + $1,400 extras so I would have walked out without a car I could not afford and they would not have gotten there commission. Then neither of us would have been happy? Answer your question? By the way it does not give me a ulcer to save $500 it also tells me how much money you make on a deal when they can knock off almost $11,000 on a new car AND what you make on your deals.

Here's a neat experiment ... walk into WalMart, pick something up off the shelf, and demand to pay less than what they paid for it. And then proceed to get laughed at.

When a dealer sells at a markup of WalMart we will not have to. It is funny but I know they still got more than they would have sold the car for if I would have still tried to leave. If there is a next time they won't be so lucky.

[Hank1946]

1. What I want and what I can afford are two different things!!!!! What you got and what you will sell it for are two different things!! That is why I got a $39,000 2011 300C for $27,995 + $595 FOR PRE INSTALLED LO-JACK WHICH I CONSIDER STOLEN FROM ME. I say that because I did not need it and did not lower my insurance 1 penny. So that is why my payment is 318.85 instead of $439.00 that's with $10,000 down. This was the most interesting thing I ever bought! The ad said $27,995.00 guaranteed when I got there they said somewhere around $31,000 as always that salesmen goes away and another comes back with a paper with $3,854 in tax's in the county I live in it is 7.75% which is $2169.61 there county no more than .5 % more. They try to say I have to pay tax on the sticker price well that does not work as tax is only on the discounted part of the sale there were no factory rebates just a discount listed!!!! First shady part of the deal second salesmen leaves and third person from financing comes back says that the car is 28 plus 1400 for lo jack and some chemical spray they say they put on it this time proper tax and 10% financing we go around a bit. As I don't go to buy without finding out what I should pay. I Let him know that I should be in the lowest % which was 2.9 at the time and I was not going to pay for the extras. Now he says what do you expect to pay I pull out the ad which says $27,995.00 guaranteed he say let me see. He comes back and now he wants to add the extras and now has a 2.9% financing well I am not happy with that I let him know. My wife and I are getting up and going out the door we are at the car and they had parked another vehicle behind it. I turn around and as I get to the door the very first salesmen I talked to on the phone comes out and says they will split the cost of the package. As I really did not know about Lo jack and did know the spray is gimmicky I thought LO JACK would help I asked my wife and could tell by the look in her face she wanted it as much as I did. I said yes and the rest is history. So if "I don't understand the concept behind taking thousands off of MSRP for a new car" I would have paid $39,000 and about 13% tax + $1,400 extras so I would have walked out without a car I could not afford and they would not have gotten there commission. Then neither of us would have been happy? Answer your question? By the way it does not give me a ulcer to save $500 it also tells me how much money you make on a deal when they can knock off almost $11,000 on a new car AND what you make on your deals.

[fabian421]

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a ripoff store. I sell out of a small, 2-lane road store, so we can't 'smoke-and-mirror' customers through creative advertising.

On the flipside, no one held a gun to your head and said you had to buy the car with Lo-Jack. You could have easily gone to any other store and gotten what you were looking for.

By the way, a $100,000/year salesman in upstate New York is the slimeball who lies, cheats, and steals. Trust me, I work with more than one.

I happen to hold myself to a higher standard. "And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?"

[karfreek]

By the way, a $100,000/year salesman in upstate New York is the slimeball who lies, cheats, and steals. Trust me, I work with more than one.

I happen to hold myself to a higher standard. "And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?"

Hmmm...interesting. Some of them are good friends of mine, car guys. Guys who know their stuff and are straight shooters with plenty of repeat business and tons of referrals. They work 70-80 hour weeks and will bend over backward to make the sale. I bought my Challenger from one.

These guys know their inventory like the back of their hand. I go to shows and cruises with them and they can recall a name and car that they sold someone from 6 months ago and engage with them at the show. These guys are true professionals who know the art of the sale.

Paint with a smaller brush.



Jay

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[Hank1946]

Unfortunately the bible was not written for Car Dealers at least not a Dealer training book. No I could not have gotten what I wanted for the price as it was the last with this option set I found in California. Your dealer doesn't pay any more for his car's than any other dealer. Unless he can't keep up with the quota? I have had the same kind of problems with all the dealer's in the area. In 97 I went to a dealer who was 20 mile's away we had made a deal of about 22,000 for a extended cab pickup not base but not fully loaded. When we sat down to fill out the papers he wanted to charge $150.00 for the mats in the truck. Needless to say I left. I went to the dealer in town and talked to a salesmen and told him what happened. I got the same truck color everything as he found the truck by msrp at another dealer. I went back to this dealer to buy a 99 Dodge van I went to the same salesmen HE this time did the exact thing to me. So for $150 they both lost a deal. As I went back to the first salesmen knowing he would remember not to cheat me again. He sold me the van for the same price my local dealer had quoted before trying to get that extra $150 for mat's.
IN 74 I bought a Toyota pickup and about 4 years later I started having problems with the engine the local dealer wanted about $500 to fix the seats in the head. I took it back where I bought it and they fixed it for free as it was a recall as long as you were under 200,000 I think which I was under the mileage limit. I have almost never went to a dealer and had them stick with there ads or anything else they say except the dealer who fixed my head problem. I also don't remember any thing done wrong when he sold it to me either. Be that as it may I would bet you don't sell your car's at the best price for the customer when they walk in the door. I never bought a Saturn they were supposed to be a no haggle company I don't know that for sure. But where are they today?
I am sure you don't go in and say give me that car at sticker price fill out the papers and walk out remember they might add a few thousand for availability. At least I hope you don't because the bible principles also expect you to be thrifty and wise with your money and use it for good.