I put new wheels and tires on my Mag about 3 weeks before bagging her and got her aligned. After putting bags on, she pulls pretty hard to the left. My rims aren't hubcentric so I'm thinking of getting some hubcentric rings (provided they don't add any "space" to impact my tuck) and obviously I have to get it aligned again (which wit 22"s) isn't cheap at a reputable spot.
What's your take on alignment as it applies to Bags? Should I be good once I have it aligned again?
Here's a pic by the way:
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Last edited by Skizza; 08-09-2010 at 12:58 PM.
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Car looks awesome!!
What are you driving at for your height? Is it close to the height that it was before, or is it pretty far off? Do you happen to know if they poped just the upper ball joint in the front, or did they take anything else off? (upper arm bolts etc)
Its best to align your car at your normal "ride height" This will help with the un-even tire wear if your driving with your car alot lower then "stock". Generally, you don't "need" to get an alignment after putting the bags on, unless there was something else taken apart then just the balljoint/spindle connection or, your driving at alot different of a height.
Now, your camber will change when you lift or lower the car, but when you go back to your normal ride height, or at least semi-close to it, the alignment will be good. Now, if you have it aligned for a high ride height, then drop it down to a low ride height, it will be out of alignment when your driving at that lowered height. So if its a height that you now want to drive at, you should have it re-aligned at that height.
Generally though, its only the camber that gets thrown off when your alot lower, for the car to pull, that sounds like a toe issue.
*EDIT* Double check your wheels also, it looks like you have staggered and maybe two of them are mixed up
Last edited by UniversalAirSuspension; 08-09-2010 at 03:13 PM.
Zack,
This is the one that I installed the bags and the Accuair on. When I did the front, I just pulled the upper ball joint nut. Control arms, tie rods, lower control arms and strut rods did not come off. The #2 height was set close to what it was before when it had springs on it. Like you said, it may just need to have the toe set to correct the pulling. When I drove it lower than #2 it did not seem to pull. There was some wandering when it was lifted higher, which may just be due to the change in camber vs. where the car was aligned.
Skizza,Originally Posted by Skizza
I would set it where you like it on start up or where you drive it on a normal basis and have them double check the toe setting if anything else. For you to have someone try and adjust the camber (which is a bolt and there are only 3 settings) would not change much. Especially since you are probably driving around at different heights all the time.
Zach,
Thanks, I go to my window to look at her squatting out front all day long, like when I first got her! I love it!! My wife just shakes her head when we're driving and the Accuair system adjusts..lol
Zach & Danny,
99% of the time I'm riding at the #2 setting which like Danny said is pretty close to the height it was when I got her aligned. She pulls pretty hard to the left especially at highway speeds. Just yesterday i took a slight left curve on the highway without touching the wheel at all. I'll try to see if it pulls the same on the 3 setting today.
It's random, but it doesn't happen when one would think, like in the first 5 minutes or so of driving, but usually after a decent ride (at least 15-20 minutes). Yesterday for example after driving 30 minutes to Marina Del Rey, we're sitting at a light and it adjusted all of a sudden. A few times last week after my 20 min drive home, sitting at a light after I exited the freeway, it adjusted.
Okay, so its doing it when your stopped.
I agree, lower it down a little, or drive around some more and let it "learn" more on how the car is. Because the accuair system is always active learning how the car moves, sometimes you just have to "play" with it to get it to learn faster. If it keeps it up, i would suggest to lower the sensitivity. If it goes ways, then it just learned that it doesn't need to make those adjustments.
Ok thanks guys. One more thing, recently I noticed that going from 2 to 3 setting and vice versa, either nothing adusted, or maybe one corner front or rear did. I reset the 3 ride height today, so I'll see if in the next few days it sticks or I run into the same issue.


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