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    Here is the part number info for the NIVOMAT Self Leveling Shocks...

    Also, if you look at the bottom of the shock, where it mounts to the suspension, there is about a 3/4" post that comes out from the bottom of ths shock tube and connects to the "eye' that the bolt goes through. If the mouting "eye" is welded drectly to the shock tube, you don't have self leveling shocks.

    Hope this helps,
    Bob

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    So can anyone just install these on a 300C that doesn't have them already? Any alterations needed or is it just a straight install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern300 View Post
    So can anyone just install these on a 300C that doesn't have them already? Any alterations needed or is it just a straight install?
    They will bolt right on. You might want to get the matching springs, too.

    I installed them in our RT Magnum and it took only a couple of hours.

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    Are the springs any different? Are they a different part number?

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    Yeah, the springs are a different part number. They didn't appear to be any longer, shorter. I'm sure they have a different spring rate...

    I was fortunate enough to purchase a complete set of shocks and springs from a NVRDUN. We tow a small camp trailer with our Magnum and the shocks and springs really improve the handling and stance of the car with the trailer attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diboblo View Post
    Here is the part number info for the NIVOMAT Self Leveling Shocks...

    Bob,
    Is that the p/n for the Magnum rear drive Nivomat, or for your Charger?

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    The PN is for a Magnum Nivomat.

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    Thanks!!

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    Talking P/Ns for Converting to load leveling rear suspension

    I recently bought a set of Nivomats & rear springs for my '05 Magnum R/T from someone who'd lowered their '05 Magnum. I also looked up the part numbers I received in the 2006 Magnum/300 (LX) parts PDF & after decoding all the build options, verified that they're correct & didn't change between '05 & '06 Magnums. They are:

    SHOCK ABSORBER, Suspension: 4895 563AA
    Spring, Rear Coil: 4895 538AA

    I've had my lift tied up with another project, so broke down & scheduled a local shop to install them tomorrow.

    Why am I doing this? I bought the Magnum to tow things. First my pop-up camper, & now we've bought a JAYCO Jay Feather Ex-Port 17Z camper that weighs in at 2900 lbs dry.

    I hope this helps someone else doing converting to the tow package suspension as it took me about 3 evenings of digging to find & verify the part#s. Seems there's a lot of bogus info out there!

    BTW, the Charger load leveling package DOES NOT FIT the Magnum: the ride heights & suspension dimensions are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verell View Post
    BTW, the Charger load leveling package DOES NOT FIT the Magnum: the ride heights & suspension dimensions are different.
    As far as I can tell, the height of the rear springs is the only difference, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verell View Post
    I recently bought a set of Nivomats & rear springs for my '05 Magnum R/T from someone who'd lowered their '05 Magnum. I also looked up the part numbers I received in the 2006 Magnum/300 (LX) parts PDF & after decoding all the build options, verified that they're correct & didn't change between '05 & '06 Magnums. They are:

    SHOCK ABSORBER, Suspension: 4895 563AA
    Spring, Rear Coil: 4895 538AA

    I've had my lift tied up with another project, so broke down & scheduled a local shop to install them tomorrow.

    Why am I doing this? I bought the Magnum to tow things. First my pop-up camper, & now we've bought a JAYCO Jay Feather Ex-Port 17Z camper that weighs in at 2900 lbs dry.

    I hope this helps someone else doing converting to the tow package suspension as it took me about 3 evenings of digging to find & verify the part#s. Seems there's a lot of bogus info out there!

    BTW, the Charger load leveling package DOES NOT FIT the Magnum: the ride heights & suspension dimensions are different.
    I swapped my RT shocks and springs out for the Nivomat damper/spring package so I can tow with my Magnum. While the ride height is a bit higher, the improvement in performance when towing is a fair trade-off. My wife actually pointed out the difference. I didn't notice it at all...

    We tow a 1957 Shasta Camp Trailer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg View Post
    As far as I can tell, the height of the rear springs is the only difference, right?
    The Nivomats have a built-in ride height. The Charger Nivomats have a different part # and ride height from the Magnum Nivomats, so can't be interchanged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diboblo View Post
    Hi, didn't notice that that was a hot link till tonite.

    As towed, how much does the Shasta weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verell View Post
    The Nivomats have a built-in ride height. The Charger Nivomats have a different part # and ride height from the Magnum Nivomats, so can't be interchanged.
    They may have a different #... BUT, the Nivomats work in conjunction with a specific spring rate to perform the leveling function.

    I have Charger SRT8 nivomats with Magnum SRT8 rear springs (with Charger SRT8 front spings/shocks) on my '05 Mag. RT. They're the same rear spring rate, just 1/2-3/4" taller. Car rides and sits just like a factory Magnum SRT8.

    From all i've read, the Nivomats work off the spring rate for leveling, and the spring height sets the ride height(as with any other vehicle). My car would ride like a brick truck if this weren't true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jg View Post
    From all i've read, the Nivomats work off the spring rate for leveling, and the spring height sets the ride height(as with any other vehicle).
    I suggest you read in more depth. The external spring is optional depending on vehicle weight, it just offloads some of the vehicle weight from the Nivomat. The Nivomats have height sensing valves in a vehicle specific fixed internal position. The Nivomat's piston actuates the valves when in the appropriate position.

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