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    Question What would make you not buy one?

    I currently own a Magnum and obviously it is not light on it's feet (but that isn't why I bought it!).

    My other car is a Subie WRX.

    I want the Challenger (though I would also jump on a new Supra).

    My concern is that it might not be 'nimble enough' for me. I've driven a Mag and 300c, I can only imagine that the Charger is close to the 300c perhaps more agile. Logic would dicate that the Challenger would be the most athletic of the bunch, but still not close to the WRX/Supra/350z?

    I love the Mag, power, looks and comfort and I love the WRX, zippy and tight. I want the best of both worlds and I don't know of the Challenger is going to be that car. I'll have to wait for reviews I guess.

    One other thing that would make me not buy one is if they stuffed the current LX interior into it. Instant no sale for me.
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    I'm on the list for the Challenger. My opinion would be too biased.

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    I'm on the list at my dealership too. Went to the dealer the day they made the announcement official (I actually met the owner that morning when he showed up to unlock the place... that got his attention :-) ).

    A 6.1L engine will probably make me not buy one. Too much weight to push around. We'll see what they do for the SRT version.

    And if you want the Magnum to be nimble, drop it about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4". You'll be amazed at what happens to it in a corner. Do coilovers and don't waste your money on springs. You'll just have to replace your shocks and then you'll have spent as much as coilovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xen
    I love the Mag, power, looks and comfort and I love the WRX, zippy and tight. I want the best of both worlds and I don't know of the Challenger is going to be that car. I'll have to wait for reviews I guess.

    One other thing that would make me not buy one is if they stuffed the current LX interior into it. Instant no sale for me.
    Sounds like what you want is an Audi RS6 or an RS4 if you can go a bit smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattRobertson
    I'm on the list at my dealership too. Went to the dealer the day they made the announcement official (I actually met the owner that morning when he showed up to unlock the place... that got his attention :-) ).

    A 6.1L engine will probably make me not buy one. Too much weight to push around. We'll see what they do for the SRT version.

    And if you want the Magnum to be nimble, drop it about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4". You'll be amazed at what happens to it in a corner. Do coilovers and don't waste your money on springs. You'll just have to replace your shocks and then you'll have spent as much as coilovers.
    I can 2nd. this statement about the KW coilover and how it changes the handling characteristics! I have cornered way faster on turns that I used to start loosing it on, all I get now is the need to use the dead pedal and wedge myself in to counteract the G force!!
    I really need some heavily bostered seats now!!
    Maybe velcro on my butt and the seats would work, he, he!!!

    BTW, it sounds like you have your mind set on something other than the Challenger anyway, good, more available for us that really want 'em!!!
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    provided it looks like the concept car the only thing that would make me not want to buy one would be the lack of a hemi + auto option, the rumored manual only = no sale for me.

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    If you want nimble, get a Mazda Miata or MX5, or maybe a Lotus. If you want the coolest ass kicking car, well Challenger imho. The interior looks sweet to me btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGNUM8R
    BTW, it sounds like you have your mind set on something other than the Challenger anyway, good, more available for us that really want 'em!!!
    Oh hell no! Put the 6.4 in the SRT and I am running to the dealer like a crack addict with a $10 bill.

    You know I've been bitching about the 6.1 and the 4100 lb curb weight for awhile. But thinking on it, I guess we could live with a 6.1, depending on how DCX handles it. Look at what Hennessey has done with their Magnum SRT, bored and stroked. And what if DCX leaves room in the equation for the SRT to have better gears than the Challenger RT? A 12-second car?

    I want a Cobra killer. Plain and simple, no ifs/buts. Ideally, I could have a shot at not embarrassing myself against a Vette (yes I know... I'm dreaming). I'm hoping that by the time the Challenger is out the next gen Viper will be out so DCX will have a big open spot in their HP/performance range to slot in a 500 hp Challenger SRT.

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    i also find myself wanting something smaller (came from the import scene originally) and i think if i had it all to do over i would of went the wrx sti route.

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    I have two fears re: the challenger. 1) too heavy and 2)too expensive.

    DCX needs a Mustang killer, and to do that, it needs to be priced accordingly. If they start these at 38k, why would I want this over a Mag SRT8?

    The too heavy plays into this. If it is only slightly more expensive, but is rated at the concept vehicle specs of 4k lbs - yikes. I'd have to drive it to see.

    If it is too expensive, I hate to say it, but I'm going to trade in the wife's Stratus on a Mustang GT. She'll drive the Mag, and I'll get the easily mod-able Stang. I used to be a Mustang guy - I even owned 3 at one point - and I said when the 2005 design came out that if anything brings me back to Ford, it would be the new Mustangs.

    The other option, depending on avazilability and price, would be a charger SRT8. But that would involve lots of luck, while I can get an Mustang GT w/ all of the options I want for 27k minus whatever rebates/incentives there are at the time.

    The clock is ticking, folks - 2 years until the 3 year/36k warranty expires on her Stratus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67alecto
    I have two fears re: the challenger. 1) too heavy and 2)too expensive.
    I'm hoping for 40 grand MSRP tops on the SRT. Less would be better and in line with the current SRT's. Luckily my dealer refuses to charge markups, if you can believe that (on the flip side they won't do discounts either, but I'll take the good with the bad).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawsonMagnum
    Sounds like what you want is an Audi RS6 or an RS4 if you can go a bit smaller.
    That is what I was thinking, nimble, comfy, fast...yet completely bland styling. Don't get me wrong, Audi's look nice, but not Challenger noice!

    I'd be all over an M3/S6 'Luxury Coupe' if it weren't for the styling, hell the WRX was pushing it, if it wasn't for the scoop

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    There are rumors that DC might produce a version of the next gen Mitsu Evo and possibly revive the Stealth name, since they still have ties to Mitsubishi. Maybe that would work for you.

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    Personaly i'd rather the current big and heavy Challenger concept over a small light one that looked the same, while small wouldn't stop me from buying it, small is why I would rather my Magnum over a sports car, I like having room in my car to fit 4 people very comfortably with a lot of cargo as well and still have a fast car

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiltz
    ...small is why I would rather my Magnum over a sports car, I like having room in my car to fit 4 people very comfortably with a lot of cargo as well and still have a fast car
    Exactly why I got my Magnum. For me, it's a very practical car that also has good power, handling, and great looks. It's impossible to put the best of everything in one vehicle. But, for me, the Magnum comes the closest of anything I've seen that combines all these traits into one vehicle.
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