It's not worth it. Do you really want to be pumping more expensive fuel into a vehicle that isn't "quick" to begin with? The fact that you're looking at the Predator tells me you want a little more out of it, or that you're not satisfied with the stock performance. I was the same way.
I went through the experience. When I first got my Predator in the mail, I was happy like a kid on Christmas Day. I loaded it up, and for awhile I was happy. It was all placebo.
The "throttle boost" feature is something that I hear people praise, but I have no idea why. All it does is take throttle input and amplify it. If I want the car to shift at 6500 rpm, I will floor the pedal. With 20% boost turned on, all it did was give me 6500 RPM when the gas pedal was pushed down half way. No extra performance to be had there, just a useless gimmick. To top that off, the Shell gas bill for 91 octane was on average costing me $5-8 more per tank than regular 87. Would I have minded paying extra if the Predator gave me a "boost" in performance? Not at all. Did it give me a boost in performance? No.
What it did give me was jolting WOT shifts, and a louder engine. (I was also experiencing random misfires at idle when my Predator tune was loaded. I never had these before the tune, and never had them again once I removed the tune. Were these misfires due to the 91 tune? I can't say for sure, but the fact that these misfires only occured while the tune was loaded is a bit troubling). The only real useful feature I see with the Predator for this v6 is its ability to read error codes and run datalogging, but let's face it, that's all a bit of a joke on this Chrysler v6.
Save your $$. Or if you can find somebody in your area with a v6 Charger who has a Predator loaded, take it for a test drive, and honestly assess whether or not you feel the "performance" gain is worth the money. I really encourage you to do that if possible, my friend. The Predator is not a "cheap" item, and filling your car up with high octane gas over a long period of time will add up.
My advice is to enjoy your vehicle, enjoy the fact that it takes 87 octane fuel, and for the extra $$ you save between fill ups by running the stock tune, take the car for a cruise and have fun.
Last edited by SilverSteel300; 03-01-2012 at 08:23 PM.
SilverSteel300, you say you are just giving your account of the Predator, but you also keep trying to keep people from buying it. You are one of very few people who did not like the increase in driveability the Diablo tunes gave the car. You say it adds no performance on the 4-speed cars, but I have dyno and track proof that it did on my car. I do not have harsh shifts, the throttle boost eliminates the hesitation or delay in response when you push the gas pedal. Instead of pushing the gas pedal down and the car thinking about it before going, with the throttle boost(anymore than 15% only hurts from my experience) you get instant reaction from the car when you push down the pedal. As for running more expensive gas, only use the 89 tune and you should not have any problems with more expensive gas. Since Dodge recommends you run 89 octane in the 3.5 anyways.
I searched high and low for a used one... didn't want to pay the shipping up to the the Great White North. When I finally did find one I felt like a kid at christmas opening that present you always wanted, and dreamed of getting because all of the other kids were playing with theirs... I digress...
It will wake up your ride... period...
2008 Magnum SXT
SRT8 honeycomb grilles | 10x20 Vipers | Daytona chin spoiler | Predator | Solo Mach-X Cat Back |3GCustomz Big Bully CAI, catch can, ABS cover |T Kutz Custom sill covers | Drake Billet Strut Brace and pedal covers | BT Mopar badges and engine bling | 20% tint | de-moulded |tinted tails | engine LEDs, blah blah...
SilverSteel300, I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience with what everyone else sees as a definite performance-enhancing product. I had surging and misfires but that was LONG before I had my Predator. Loading the tunes didn't increase or decrease the frequency. Rather it allowed me to read the codes that led to Dodge paying for a TSB that fixed my misfires--saving me hundreds.
Extreme polar opposites and unique experiences, like those had by SilverSteel300, should be viewed as the exception and not the rule. An overwhelming majority of users found better performance and excellent usability with the Predator/Trinity/inTune. The 4spd doesn't get the benefits that the 5spd does, but that doesn't change the benefit to the engine. There are dyno proven results and there's a saying: 'the dyno don't lie'. If you run the 89 tune and 89 octane gas (which is what's recommended by Dodge anyway) you'll notice better performance. If you stay out of the skinny pedal, the engine will be more efficient and should result in better mileage as well. Whether you run the higher tunes (and higher fuel) will be your choice so it doesn't HAVE to cost you more at the pump. Overall, you will find MOST people recommend getting it.
2005 Magnum SXT: Fiberglass Hood, smoked LED tail lights, billet grille, Airaid CAI, Magnaflow Cat-Back, Polk Audio speakers, BT Catch Can, Debadged, Demolded, Ported & polished lower manifold, TB, and Jet Coated valve covers, front & rear R/T sway bars, longtube headers, Modern Muscle Supercharger, Inertia Big-Valve heads, Inertia custom cams
To Do Still: tint the front windows, wheels and rubber, freshen up the paint, and maybe a little more...
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Well, having mine for over a week and the differences are like day and night. Yes, even though I have a 4 speed, I feel as though the car shifts smoother and it's faster under WOT. So all in all, I'm happy.
2008 Dodge// Charger SE Plus 3.5
TORRED exterior, daytona matched spoiler, honeycomb grille insert, matte black grille, trunk blackout, chally style rallye stripes, visor disguisers, cobra radar detector, aac hod highs and lows bulbs, black side markers.. more mods will come soon(I hope) to do: chin spoiler, wheels to pd....
Charger bought new, 10 minutes from Chrysler headquarters on December 30, 2008.
I have a 2010 CHALLENGER SXT,did the CAI and the duels thing and i was also wondering about getting a predator. Is there anyone out there that had it tested on the dyno before and after installation? That would be interesting to!I have to admit i don't know much about them. I know bears sh88t in the woods but i don't want to by a cat in a bag! lol
I guess there's only one way to find out. But instead of a predator why not get an intune. I just bought one and waiting for it to come in. If not my predator will be up for sale just as soon as I get my new toy. Where do u live at?
trufiber ram air hood, diablo sport tuner w/ 93 oct. gas on the 91 oct. tune, ported and polished lower intake manifold, ported and polished throttle body, magnaflow muffler, blastin bobs 10 db exhaust system with the 4" tips, big bully cia, big bully catch can, 160 degree stat, jet hot coated jba shorty headers, lowered and ridin on nitto 420's 255 45r20
fastest time- 15.532@ 89.52
"Speed never killed anyone. suddenly becoming stationary, now thats what kills you."
didn't test it back to back on my car, but I have dyno'd my car the same day as another 3.5L SE+. The only real difference between our cars was I had the predator and he didn't. Both had the same CAI, and both had the R/T dual exhaust. I made 193RWHP he made 185RWHP. I had the 91 tune on the car at the time.