Rear Shocks with Air Suspension

[mlb12]

Right up front with an apology as this has probably been addressed previously, but if so, I certainly can't find it!

What rear shocks have various owners used when installing an air ride suspension system, the Easy Street system specifically? And when the car is an SRT8 and equipped with the Nivomats?

I picked up a set of Monroe Sensa Tracs(P/N 5797s) that are supposed to be for the Magnum RT and right off the bat they are 1 1/2" longer than the Nivomats.

When they're in the car won't settle to it's fullest extent, but when they're out it does-so obviously they are holding the car up.

Does anyone have any solutions, ideas.............?

[eldiablosrt8]

find yourself a set of stock non nivo ma shocks( a non r/t package rt shock) i have been using factory shocks for over 50k on my bags and no problems

[SXT6]

If you want to lay as low as possible, get KONI. Either the adjustables or the non-adjustables, both are shorter and will allow you to lay lower than a stock shock

[mlb12]

find yourself a set of stock non nivo ma shocks( a non r/t package rt shock) i have been using factory shocks for over 50k on my bags and no problems

That seems to be one of my problems-finding a listing on rear shocks is a bit of a problem in the jobber marketplace. And the ones at the dealer level are twice the price.

[eldiablosrt8]

post up here many rt guys go to srt suspensions... get a set cheap that way

[mlb12]

If you want to lay as low as possible, get KONI. Either the adjustables or the non-adjustables, both are shorter and will allow you to lay lower than a stock shock

Have you found that the Konis allow your car to drop right down as far as it would go should there not be any rear shocks in it?

One further question, do you have a part number at your finger tips?

[SXT6]

Have you found that the Konis allow your car to drop right down as far as it would go should there not be any rear shocks in it?

One further question, do you have a part number at your finger tips?

It will drop as far as your wheel/ tire combination let it I believe. Check around for pics of guys running stocks and then guys running KONI's. The difference is a good inch-inch and a half. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KONI-...Q5fAccessories
Heres an ebay link, got mine from these guys.

Probably not the cheapest way, but worth it to me

[MOL SRT-8]

It will drop as far as your wheel/ tire combination let it I believe. Check around for pics of guys running stocks and then guys running KONI's. The difference is a good inch-inch and a half. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KONI-...Q5fAccessories
Heres an ebay link, got mine from these guys.

Probably not the cheapest way, but worth it to me

i do not see how this is possible. i have a srt magnum and i can not get any lower, my exhaust is already touching the ground and my axle are less than 1/2 inch from hitting the body. besides if i get the body much lower i would have to trim the pinch seams.

[SXT6]

i do not see how this is possible. i have a srt magnum and i can not get any lower, my exhaust is already touching the ground and my axle are less than 1/2 inch from hitting the body. besides if i get the body much lower i would have to trim the pinch seams.

Aftermarket exhaust? Ok, maybe I should rephrase.....I can only speak for Chargers for certain, those I can compare all day. Maybe the Magnum lays lower for some reason? If that in fact is the case, the stock shocks would be a better choice, a whole lot cheaper and I have a couple I would give ya pretty dang cheap

[mlb12]

Can you give me the collapsed length? And what kind of price would you be looking at?

[SXT6]

Can you give me the collapsed length? And what kind of price would you be looking at?

Sure will, I'll collapse them in the a.m. and get back to ya

[Simans82]

It will drop as far as your wheel/ tire combination let it I believe. Check around for pics of guys running stocks and then guys running KONI's. The difference is a good inch-inch and a half. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KONI-...Q5fAccessories
Heres an ebay link, got mine from these guys.

Probably not the cheapest way, but worth it to me

Yeah, there's definitely plenty to be said about the 1"-1 1/2" comment. I've been asked about this many times, and there's no truth to it unless you're comparing the Nivo's to a stock/Koni shock. Here's something a fellow LX'er and I did for comparison reasons. Many were asking how much lower the Koni's would get them, and it was time to put the myths to rest. It's unfair for people to think that they'll see that much more drop out of the Koni's. Maybe you can do something similar between two Charger's/Magnums on the same wheels, only difference being the rear struts. It'd be interesting to see the results as things could obviously be different for whatever reason.

Just to preface this thread, this is not AT ALL in reference to the Koni's performance when used with the UAS setup VS the OEM's. In my opinion, that's not even comparable as the Koni's SMASH the OEM's in the performance arena. This is simply to clear up some of the off-the-cuff statements made about how much lower the Koni's get you than the OEM's in many air ride threads. I've gone back and forth with many that the Koni's will only get you SLIGHTLY lower. I've never heard anyone that has the Koni's installed (with me being the second person in the country to have purchased them, the first to have them installed on an LX with UAS) outright state that they got them that much lower simply due to the fact that no one was really measuring pre/post Koni. I measured both before and after on my 300C, and there wasn't a noticeable enough difference worth posting. Now from a performance and all around ride comfort aspect, the Koni's are next to priceless.

I sent HEMIPHIL a message earlier asking him if I could snag some measurements from his Koni/UAS setup from the bottom of the fender lip to the ground (measuring through the hub). As you all know I sold my previous set of factory SRT8's to flaminhotkustoms, and today I met up with TommyZ and grabbed a set of factory SRT8 wheels from him to throw on for a few weeks (puttin' some miles on the SRT and didn't want to worry about the 22's). So I thought what better time to try to get some numbers on paper and see what the Koni's are really doing from a lowering aspect.

Thanks to Phil for taking the time to get some measurements. Here are some results and pictures of Phil's UAS setup with Koni's versus my UAS setup with factory Bilstein fronts and factory 300C non Nivomat rears with removed bumpstops.

Phil's measurements:

Front completely aired out - 25 7/8"

Rear completely aired out - 25 3/8"

My measurements:

Front completely aired out - 25 31/32" (Approximately 3/32" higher than Phil's)

Rear completely aired out - 25 17/32" (Approximately 5/32" higher than Phil's)

As you can see, this is only marginally lower than my OEM's. For those of you who haven't taken a close look at a tape measure in quite some time, please note that 32ths are the smallest notch on the tape. :D The Koni's are definitely still worth the purchase, but it's been grinding me lately as to many people's assumptions only from hear say and/or from those who never even had air ride on the OEM's prior to installing the Koni's/UAS.

Here are some comparison pictures. You can notice the 32ths by looking at how much rubber is exposed below the fender, although if I were to raise the camera 6"-12" higher I could make that gap look smaller in my pictures. Hence the reason why I wanted to take measurements as they're foolproof. It's no 3/4"-1" lower though as many state on the forums. Please keep in mind though that Phil has the most "fair" pictures I've seen taken on the forums. Basically bending down to a squat to snap the pic. Standing right next to the car and taking a picture down towards your own feet of the fender isn't a fair shot to give a good perspective. You can definitely notice the slight difference as it can be seen with the naked eye, but if the Koni's were truly 3/4"-1" lower, those with Koni's would be tucking the factory wheels. This may be an extensive write-up just just to show this, but as you can all probably tell, I'm tired of hearing it on the forums in all of my air ride threads. lol

Side shot (Koni first, OEM second):





Rear (Koni first, OEM second):

[Jayboy]

I have the konis and the UAS and I don't think I could get much lower. Don't know about the difference in stock but I know its about as low as you can go!