Pedders or Racer Edge Bump Steer Kit. Which is better and why?

**Gentile Giant** · 11-04-2008, 08:58 PM

I'm installing Hotchkiss bars and Eiback Springs on my MRT. I already have bump steer issues which are only going to get worse. So while it's up in the air a bump steer kit is only logical. However.... This is apparently fixed by using two different methods based on two different theories.
Pedders uses offset bushings while Racers Edge changes the angle of the Rods.
Both these vendors are class acts and I appreciate thier efforts in our market. I don't want to make this a pissing contest either!
RE's product is the newest kid on the block and I haven't seen any feedback on thier product. Pedders has had mixed reviews but I can attribute it to a "Chebbie" dealer not knowing anything about LX's.
What is your experiance guys?

**Pale Rider** · 11-05-2008, 11:33 AM

I'd like to hear more about the RE setup, haven't seen someone comment on them yet.

I have the Pedders, but I can see that possibly the Razors is going to move the angle of the tie rod more than Pedders does.

btw, Pedders claims to not need MORE angle change. That may be true with a very mild drop, (like mine, with SRT stuff), but I just have a hard time buying that for people using coilovers or bags, and having more drop than an SRT or Pedders ride height.

Oh, just to be clear, you mention....
"Pedders uses offset bushings while Racers Edge changes the angle of the Rods. "
They both change the angle of the rods, they just achieve that differently.

**MikeEast** · 11-05-2008, 11:40 AM

I've only had experiences with the Pedders version, but I must say that it makes a huge huge difference in how my RT steers - feels way better.

Mike

**crhemi** · 11-05-2008, 11:42 AM

I am in the market for one or the other.

**momad** · 11-05-2008, 12:52 PM

I'm leaning towards the Razors Edge set up because my tie rods ends are shot anyway. I would like to hear from someone using them b4 I buy them though......

**Gentile Giant** · 11-05-2008, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by MikeEast

I've only had experiences with the Pedders version, but I must say that it makes a huge huge difference in how my RT steers - feels way better.

Mike

Hey Mike, Is your RT lowered????

**Gentile Giant** · 11-05-2008, 06:55 PM

Bueler.............Bueler............

**OLJustice** · 11-05-2008, 09:21 PM

Yeah I can't think of one person on the forums who have the RazorEdge setup. But to be honest I can see how their method can adjust the angle of the tierods signifcantly more than a simple bushing offset that Pedders users. I'm curious to hear from someone who has these installed (other than RE) since I am strongly considering Pedders' Touring package.

**Ron380** · 11-05-2008, 09:46 PM

I haven't seen or heard anything regarding the new RE piece either... I DO have their Front and Rear Shock Braces and they're VERY good quality!

I have the Pedder's Touring Package (+ the Rear Tie Rod End Links) and LOVE it!!

**dudeiwin86** · 11-06-2008, 02:28 AM

the issue is 2 things

1- no one has really tried the RE setup that ive seen
2- the pedders setup is 2 bushings in teh steering rack, the RE setup i belive is at the sway endlinks? so its like.. 2 different approaches to the same problem..

from the looks of the RE piece, you could use it in combination with the pedders bushings. they go in very different locations

**momad** · 11-06-2008, 08:01 AM

They have sway links as well, but their bump steer kit replaces the tie rod ends...... ??????? Sway links would not effect the toe.

**dudeiwin86** · 11-06-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Hail-Wagon

They have sway links as well, but their bump steer kit replaces the tie rod ends...... ??????? Sway links would not effect the toe.

ok sure, tie rod ends.
its still not the bushings in the steering rack like the pedders kit

**MikeEast** · 11-06-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Gentile Giant

Hey Mike, Is your RT lowered????

I told Pete that I wanted it to sit as low as it did with the Eibach Prokits and that pretty much where it sits now. I got in on the Pedders May Madness springs-n-shocks sale they did.

It's pretty low, I had to take the wheels off my jack to get it underneath the car...

Mike

**MattRobertson** · 11-06-2008, 11:27 AM

My Pedders kit eliminated my bump steer, which was very noticeable and extremely annoying.

I would think adjustable tie rod ends would be useful too, yes? As in why not use both for a more comprehensive suspension rework? Probably unnecessary unless you are getting serious with the car though.

**Gentile Giant** · 11-06-2008, 01:39 PM

My thinking is that the tie rods are crap anyway so I'm killing 2 birds. However the stock bushings aren't any better either!
I just got off the phone with RE and the guy that knows ( Mike) is at the SEMA show. However the tech (installer) I spoke with said using both systems should work even better. I think I'll wait and call Mike on Monday about that one!
Either way, I've decided to be the Guinea Pig ( yes I'm a fat Italian ) for the Forum and start with the RE product. It'll be at least a couple of weeks before any of this happens but I'll keep you posted.
We'll still need input on this subject guys, don't let the thread die!