Options for lowering if I have Nivomats?

[NVRDUN]

I want to lower my Magnum but I have the Nivomats. What can I do beside bag or coil over? Are those my only options?

[MattRobertson]

You have to remove the Nivomats and replace them with something else, as they will level the car out to where they think its supposed to be no matter what you do.

You can do an SRT suspension which will lower it some, improve your ride performance enormously and be cheap.

You can put on stock non-leveling shocks and the do springs... but since that will usually ruin the shocks in a few months don't do it.

And then there's coilovers and bags.

[NVRDUN]

Alright, what about mopar springs with stock shocks (non nivomat). Would that put about the same height as SRT take offs?

[UPS92008]

Im in the same boat as you nvrdun. I cant lower the car to much cuz it will not get into the driveway, and that is bad.
How much lower is the SRT8 suspension?
How do springs ruin the shocks? I remember that my koni's didnt last long on my mustang.
Will keep a eye on this one.

[MattRobertson]

I don't know how far the Mopar springs will lower the car. I am going to guess that the SRT springs/shocks lower it less but I really have no idea. The SRT suspension lowers the car 1/2" from stock, so its not so much in the lowering dept.

Aftermarket springs kill stock shocks because they reduce the shock's ability to travel. An Eibach ProKit reduced my spring travel to about 4"... and that was before they settled. The shocks can't handle that and they blow out. They may last a long time if you are a cruiser, and if you drive on uneven roads or bumpy highways you can expect near-sudden death. Mine lasted less than six months but I drive like a madman.

What do I mean by blown out shock? Check this video out:

http://foohbar.com/ul/mOV00439.mpg

You are pogo'ing on your springs with shocks like that. Note how easily I pushed the shock down, too. Thats a very typical result.

[NVRDUN]

Alright, lets say I decide to get Eibach springs. What shocks/struts would I need to get?

[MattRobertson]

uh... bad ones. The only alternative with Eibach springs that I know of is Eibach shocks, and there were a buttload of horror stories on those, and how Eibach handled the warranty claims (you pull the shocks off, you buy and install new shocks -- all at your expense -- and send in the bad ones to Eibach and they decide whether to give you a refund). The shocks, as I recall, are around $600. Between that and the springs that would put you awfully close to a set of coilovers, wouldn't it?

[SRT8U]

If you are not going to do Coilovers...although that would be my suggestion since the price for coilovers is not that much more...but you could do the Eibach Springs and Dampers. You can buy them individually or as a kit.
Here is the kit.
http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/product_p/eib-2873-780.htm
And the Dampers
http://www.bmcspeedshop.com/ProductD...B%2D2873%2D840
Let us know is we can help.

[chibow]

If you decide to pull your Nivomat shock off let me know. I am looking for a set and have had very little luck.

[NVRDUN]

Yea, thats what Ive noticed. The only shocks ive found are the Eibachs. But the price with eibach springs and shocks is close enough to coilovers that I may as well just get the coilovers. Oh, well Ill just keep saving the pennies till I can get some coilovers.

[MattRobertson]

HHP sells what I think are the lowest-cost coilover systems here. Most of the coilover systems out there are actually made by KW. Including Eibach's and those ST's at HHP, which are basically KW V1's. Even the Mopar coilovers are KW's - with the KW label still on them.

[Hotnslow1]

Monroe makes standard rear shocks for LX's
SENSA-TRAC® PASSENGER CAR SHOCK ABSORBERS #5797
Ebay for $35.00 each http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...3286.m20.l1116
2 of these and a set of lowering springs could be the cheapest route. The springs still may ruin the shocks since they are OEM style but $70.00 for two would be a cheap replacement.

[moonstreaker]

You can get the Eibach Pro-kit (springs and dampeners) to your door for around $625 if you look hard enough. And this is from a very reputable company that everyone here knows. So it is actually a much cheaper option than coil overs if you do your homework.

[ko4000]

You might as well pick up some coilovers.
I just picked up some TEIN SS Coilovers that will be installed this weekend..
There is a thread on here about how the KW's were giving people problems and then I did some research and realized (like MattRobertson said) a lot of the coilovers that we can choose from are made from KW, including Mopar. So I opted with the TEIN's and I will let you know how it goes. You can also get what is called EDFC that will change you dampening on the fly.. pretty neat but a bit pricey for something you might only use for the 1st couple months after installing teh CO's

[Andrew@pm-fl.com]

Pedders Rear coils (2941) can be used with the nivomat shocks or any shock that is 59mm+

Check out their website for some more info.

www.peddersusa.com

If you need any help, please give me a call (727) 494-0694.

Thanks,
Luis
Precision Motorsports
luis@pm-fl.com