Well I have had my toyos on for 1000 miles now and I would rate them a 9 out of 10(10 being the best). The tread wear is 99% in the front and 97% in the rear(burnout and a few dounts). On the dry they get a 10 for grip. In the turns I gave them a 8(I dont have my new sways yet so this will be a 9 to 10 when I do). They grab the road like no tire..But when you want to spin them you can. The wet roads are a 8-9, There a solid tire and I have had to make 1 evasive move(sp.) in the rain on the interstate at 60 and if they were on my GOODYEARS I would of been sideways, My TOYOS on the other hand stuck and I never felt like I was in a bad situation. On/Off ramps in the rain feel just like the dry. I turn ESP off and I can slid my car around still...but with it on they dont break. Im sure it dosent matter but this is my review of the toyo proxes 4.