Anyone with Pedders bushings all the way around?

[Blendzol]

I had all my bushings replaced with pedders and had the front and back shocks and springs changed to theirs too. The ride is OEM level and every time I go over a speed bump or a dip there is this loud creaking noise from the front. I have taken it back and was told that they will regrease the bushings but the prob is still there. Went back again and was told that it is not the bushings but the Hydraulic fluid in the front dampners????!!! Is this possible? I've never heard of such bull**** to be honest. I even spoke to their west coast rep and he says it is the fluid in the shocks. Any one experiencing the same? I also have hotchkis front sway bar and have regreased the bushings but the noise is still there. The sway never made a noise and now with the pedders crap on there the rep and the installer blame everything in the book but their bushings. DON'T BELIEVE THE BULL**** THEY ARE SLINGING RE: THEIR SUSPENSION. IT'S ****!!!!!! MY CAR RAN BETTER BEFORE ALL THIS... If anyone else is experiencing the creaking noise please let me know. Thank you

[Redfox0099]

Hey, you need to contact Mike White 248-522-8165

mike.white@peddersusa.com He helped me get my car ready for SEMA and did a damm fine job of it

[Super T]

First problem w/ creaking I've read... say what you will about their pricing but their quality is pretty up there. Who did your install???

[dudeiwin86]

yea seriously, who installed it?

hotchkis sways are known to be a huge noisy PITA from what i ive heard.

[Super T]

yea seriously, who installed it?

hotchkis sways are known to be a huge noisy PITA from what i ive heard.

Put them on both of my Magnums, neither one made a peep...

[formerice]

I've got all Pedders bushings , but Hotchkis sways and SRT 8 shocks and struts. I drilled out the front Hotchkis bushings and put in zerk grease fittings like the rear ones have. As long as I grease the sway bar bushings at every oil change, no problem. No complaints with the Pedders, the car handles like it's on rails. The rear SRT Nivos are pretty firm, but I can live with them. Sorry your not happy.

[Rob@WretchedMS]

I had all my bushings replaced with pedders and had the front and back shocks and springs changed to theirs too. The ride is OEM level and every time I go over a speed bump or a dip there is this loud creaking noise from the front. I have taken it back and was told that they will regrease the bushings but the prob is still there. Went back again and was told that it is not the bushings but the Hydraulic fluid in the front dampners????!!! Is this possible? I've never heard of such bull**** to be honest. I even spoke to their west coast rep and he says it is the fluid in the shocks. Any one experiencing the same? I also have hotchkis front sway bar and have regreased the bushings but the noise is still there. The sway never made a noise and now with the pedders crap on there the rep and the installer blame everything in the book but their bushings. DON'T BELIEVE THE BULL**** THEY ARE SLINGING RE: THEIR SUSPENSION. IT'S ****!!!!!! MY CAR RAN BETTER BEFORE ALL THIS... If anyone else is experiencing the creaking noise please let me know. Thank you

Well, before we go throwing Pedders under the bus, The first couple of LX's we did we got a bit of noise from the upper control arm bushings, as we lubed them as we would a GTO bushing, but these are different and require more lube. With that said, I've gotten more noise from the Hotchkis sway bars than anything else.

The shocks should not squeak either, so if it is a shock that is making noise it will be covered under warranty.

Can you PM me info on who did the installation, and who you have talked to?

again, please don't jump all over Pedders, our products work as advertised, and we need to get to the bottom of your noise.

[Trojan]

My car works like a champ with 42 bushings replaced on it from Pedders.

[DMS Motorsport]

the poster went to the dealer to have things re-inspected at Mike Haddads in LA. He also had a complaint and told us that the lower control arm bushings were moving 1/2 inch. this seriously concerned me. So Mike checked the car out personally and with the poster. The poster could not duplicate any movement. Mike Haddad roadtested with the customer for some time. The only noise that they could duplicate was taking speed bumps and the only noise that Mike heard with the customer was the sound of fluid movement in the shocks. It was barely noticeable. With the suspension hydraulic noise, I took my personal car out and heard the swishing noise.

So Mike did what he could. Roadtested with the customer and had the customer try and duplicate the looseness he called me on when I was on vacation in Yosemite. And the poster could not duplicate any looseness. Mike did check to see if all the bolts were tight and everything was.

So I am at a loss to know how to assist you. We may have to wait for the next time Pete or myself go to any of the events.

Now one thing we do know about is the weak upper strut bushings that are in the LX. Mike's guys were instructed to put washers top and bottom of the strut bushing. They were instructed this a couple of days before when we did Trojans Challenger.

I have not roadtested one of our LX vehicles in about 6-8 weeks or so. So we will need to wait for one of us to roadtest it.

thanks
mike
dms

[OLJustice]

You guys want some work? Roadtest mine.... but better bring a seat pad and mouth guard. lol.

[Blendzol]

the poster went to the dealer to have things re-inspected at Mike Haddads in LA. He also had a complaint and told us that the lower control arm bushings were moving 1/2 inch. this seriously concerned me. So Mike checked the car out personally and with the poster. The poster could not duplicate any movement. Mike Haddad roadtested with the customer for some time. The only noise that they could duplicate was taking speed bumps and the only noise that Mike heard with the customer was the sound of fluid movement in the shocks. It was barely noticeable. With the suspension hydraulic noise, I took my personal car out and heard the swishing noise.

So Mike did what he could. Roadtested with the customer and had the customer try and duplicate the looseness he called me on when I was on vacation in Yosemite. And the poster could not duplicate any looseness. Mike did check to see if all the bolts were tight and everything was.

So I am at a loss to know how to assist you. We may have to wait for the next time Pete or myself go to any of the events.

Now one thing we do know about is the weak upper strut bushings that are in the LX. Mike's guys were instructed to put washers top and bottom of the strut bushing. They were instructed this a couple of days before when we did Trojans Challenger.

I have not roadtested one of our LX vehicles in about 6-8 weeks or so. So we will need to wait for one of us to roadtest it.

thanks
mike
dms

Wow!!! great defense there buddy!!! The BS being shoved in my face here is overwhelming!!! The swishing sound you are fantasizing about is in your imagination. I have emailed you numerous times and keep correcting you in your use of words but to no avail!! It is not a swishing sound, It is a creaking/squeezing sound. Biggggggg difference!!! The car must be driven at least 5-10 miles and then put on the alignment rack. Then the car must be raised by the cross member and then the you grab the wheel from the top and bottom and then you jerk it back and forth. The lower control arm on the right shows a play of about 1/4-1/2 inch. When Mike tested my claim the car was there overnight and more importantly, when I went there the next day one of their guys told me that they had regreased and retightened the nuts and bolts so maybe the reason why I could not duplicate the problem like the previous day. They probably did fix the problem by going over their work again.I keep telling you not to insult my intelligence but you still do. I have had my share of hours under the hood of many cars and know the difference between a bushing noise and hydraulic fluid noise in the shocks. I have had three other cars which I personally installed shocks with Hydraulic fluid on and NEVER, I say NEVER heard a creaking noise out of any of them. As the west coast rep you should try to investigate this more hands on instead of disrespecting and accusing me of being a liar or someone who in your mind not knowing what he is talking about. The creaking/squeezing sound that I hear is most likely from the upper arms and need to be looked at again. If there are no washers up top, then it needs to be corrected. I will take a look later to see if there are any washers installed. As far as the test drive with Mike Haddad goes, he heard the noise and it's is not slight so do me a favor and brush up on your customer service skills and listen to your customers first and tackle the problem yourself before your draw up your own baseless conclusions. I know of this first hand being in the front lines dealing with customers in my business day in and day out. I know there is a problem with these bushings/install and will pursue this until it is fixed.

[Blendzol]

Hey, you need to contact Mike White 248-522-8165

mike.white@peddersusa.com He helped me get my car ready for SEMA and did a damm fine job of it

Let me know if you wanna see all the emails I have sent him. I've spoken to him numerous times too and he keeps dishing me the same crap.

[Blendzol]

Well, before we go throwing Pedders under the bus, The first couple of LX's we did we got a bit of noise from the upper control arm bushings, as we lubed them as we would a GTO bushing, but these are different and require more lube. With that said, I've gotten more noise from the Hotchkis sway bars than anything else.

The shocks should not squeak either, so if it is a shock that is making noise it will be covered under warranty.

Can you PM me info on who did the installation, and who you have talked to?

again, please don't jump all over Pedders, our products work as advertised, and we need to get to the bottom of your noise.

Haddad Motorsports did the install and they've been real good about trying to fix the problem but it hasn't happened yet. This is bushing noise and nothing else. I don't care what both Mikes are telling me. I know my car. I drive it everyday. This noise was not there before. I have had the hotchkis sways for over a year and never heard a noise. Again, THIS IS BUSHING NOISE AND IT'S FROM THE PEDDERS BUSHINGS. If spacers/washers have not been installed on some of them, then of course they will cause this creaking/squeezing noise.

[DMS Motorsport]

Wow!!! great defense there buddy!!! The BS being shoved in my face here is overwhelming!!! The swishing sound you are fantasizing about is in your imagination. I have emailed you numerous times and keep correcting you in your use of words but to no avail!! It is not a swishing sound, It is a creaking/squeezing sound. Biggggggg difference!!! The movement in the lower control arms, especially the right side, is still there. the car must be driven at least 5-10 miles and then put on the alignment rack. Then the car must be raised by the cross member and then the you grab the wheel from the top and bottom and then you jerk it back and forth. The lower control arm on the right shows a play of about 1/4-1/2 inch. I keep telling you not to insult my intelligence but you still do. I have had my share of hours under the hood of many cars and know the difference between a bushing noise and hydraulic fluid noise in the shocks. I have had three other cars which I personally installed Hydraulic shocks on and NEVER, I say NEVER heard a creaking noise out of any of them. As the west coast rep you should try to investigate this more hands on instead of disrespecting and accusing me of being a liar or someone who in your mind not knowing what he is talking about. The creaking/squeezing sound that I hear is most likely from the upper arms and need to be looked at again. If there are no washers as you you say there should be then this needs to be corrected. I will take a look later to see if there are any washers installed. As far as the test drive with Mike Haddad goes, he heard the noise and it's is not slight so do me a favor and brush up on your customer service skills and listen to your customers first and tackle the problem yourself before your draw up your own baseless conclusions. I know of this first hand being in the fornt lines dealing with customers in my business day in and day out. I know there is a problem with these bushings/install and will pursue this until it is fixed.

As I was told, the both of you I believe roadtested i well over 20 minutes. One of the concerns I have is the rubber, and especially poly, is not intermittant when it comes o movement. It either has it or it doesn't.

So I would suggest your Lx for the amount of time you determine will show up, and make a prior arrangement with Mike to check it out again.


I will also remind you there is nothing I wrote here, that I did not review with you on the last followup call.

mike

dms

[Blendzol]

As I was told, the both of you I believe roadtested i well over 20 minutes. One of the concerns I have is the rubber, and especially poly, is not intermittant when it comes o movement. It either has it or it doesn't.

So I would suggest your Lx for the amount of time you determine will show up, and make a prior arrangement with Mike to check it out again.


I will also remind you there is nothing I wrote here, that I did not review with you on the last followup call.

mike

dms

You can't fix this over the phone!!! I do not have the time to go down to Haddad for the same issue over and over again. Usually, when the problem is not fixed by the dealer/installer you go up in rank and contact the makers/distributors and that's what I have done. I have contacted you. You keep telling me to go back to Haddad. If they don't know how to fix this problem what's the use??? Let's not get off the subject here. My issue here is the noise form the bushings. The lower arm movement problem has been fixed as my previous reply states. I need to know why the uppers are making such noise...