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BK_300DUB
09-27-2007, 11:47 AM
I have a Touring, and I'm about to buy a C... mainly for the 340 HP.

Do you have some kills that you've made etheir on the highway or on a start ? I wanna be sure a mustang won't see me in its retro.

Please gimme somme kills.

Thanks !!

MomsR/T
09-27-2007, 12:06 PM
use the SEARCH function and use the key-word KILL................quite a few actually.

Fastest 5.7 is in the 12.5's on all motor...............there are 3 cars with stock 5.7 bottom ends running real real close to one another in the 12.5 - 12.6 zone.

With a touch of nitrous all of them would be in the 11's

With those numbers, you can challenge most anything on the street other than the extreme cars...........

Ruff n Tuff RT
09-27-2007, 12:11 PM
its not fast from a start
but once you hit that 3rd gear
your gone

as soon as my engine broke in and i punched it
i wasnt amazed

MomsR/T
09-27-2007, 12:15 PM
once its modified, it goes 60 feet in about 1.7 to 1.8 seconds and does 0 to 60 in the mid 4 second range.........now thats fairly quick out of the hole for a 4500+ pound car. Is there another one quicker?

SVT2MagnumRT
09-27-2007, 12:28 PM
I know we all have a lot of pride here. But to be honest with you when I went from my Cobra to the magnum I was more than dissappointed at its quickness. Now its ability to gain speed quickly in third is one of the most impressive I've been in and with all that cladding it doesn't feel as brute force fast as my Cobra did. But if you look at the numbers, its a 4500lb beast with leather seats and interiioir luxury goodness, can fit 2x4's, sub 30k price, a roaring v8, and a sub 6 second 0-60. Like MomsR/T said, I dare you to find a quicker car with these credentials. If you are looking for all out performance get the 6.1, I would have if I could have afforded one. But remember, just like any other car, if you got the green you can make anything go! and the 5.7 is a good base for mods. Just my .02

SVT2MagnumRT
09-27-2007, 12:29 PM
Oh, and with the SC and Exhaust, you can make GT mustangs cringe all day, especially ones who are a little unschooled in the ways of the manual tranny.

formerice
09-27-2007, 05:30 PM
When I look at a 300C I see a beautiful luxury car, along the lines of a Mercedes Benz, Jaguar etc. Fast but not Vette or Viper fast. However if you go to the drag strip and see SRT8 300's ripping off mid 11 sec quarter miles, well, now that's damned impressive. If you want an 8 sec car look elsewere- Mustang or 440 or hemi Dart. I think Srt hardware's mid 11 sec 300 probably don't catch a lot of shiat from anyone!

MomsR/T
09-27-2007, 06:11 PM
The poster wanted some kills........bottom line..................at 11.4 to 12.8's and everyting inbetween............I think their are pletny of "kill stories"

MomsR/T
09-27-2007, 06:13 PM
I know we all have a lot of pride here. But to be honest with you when I went from my Cobra to the magnum I was more than dissappointed at its quickness. Now its ability to gain speed quickly in third is one of the most impressive I've been in and with all that cladding it doesn't feel as brute force fast as my Cobra did. But if you look at the numbers, its a 4500lb beast with leather seats and interiioir luxury goodness, can fit 2x4's, sub 30k price, a roaring v8, and a sub 6 second 0-60. Like MomsR/T said, I dare you to find a quicker car with these credentials. If you are looking for all out performance get the 6.1, I would have if I could have afforded one. But remember, just like any other car, if you got the green you can make anything go! and the 5.7 is a good base for mods. Just my .02

add four 6' tall buddies weighing 250# each to your CObra and retest.............

:wink::wink::wink::wink:

JetBlack300c
09-27-2007, 06:14 PM
I've beaten Mustangs (guessing they were Stock) not by much but by enough.

Beaten Camaros (again guessing stock), BMW M3, Nissan 350Z, Nissan Maximas and a few others.

from dead stops, rolling starts and on the highway...

gotten my arse stomped by a Lexus IS350, and a Nissan Altima Hybrid that was Turbo'd on the Gas 2.5L motor..


gotten edged out by a Mustang SVT/Cobra and a hopped up Camaro SS..

got the floor wiped by a 1971 sleeper El Camino rust bucket with a blown LS6 (thing was a total rust bucket, looked like hell (on purpose I found out) with a 1000 hp blown LS6 that was shiny and clean).

Ruff n Tuff RT
09-27-2007, 06:21 PM
Now what other 4dr car can bust donuts like it aint no thang without
being modded?

BESIDES a BMW M5

Mr.Mopar
09-27-2007, 06:21 PM
5.7 Hemi... is it that fast ?

...no not really. Fast is relative, and to me its more than adequate but far from fast.

2005rtmag
09-27-2007, 08:48 PM
Yeah, If fast is what you want, buy the SRT or something lighter. I'm happy with my hp of my RT but I don't drag race. If I did, I'd buy something else. Maybe, a 6 speed 400hp GTO, or Cobra Mustang.

MomsR/T
09-27-2007, 08:56 PM
but those cars don't make the LX not fall into the catagory of "fast"...........they merely fall into a catagory of "fast and light"


But just because the LX's are not the FASTEST don't mean they're not fast...........


Meister's top speed w/ heads and cam was 176 mph, NorCal runs 11.4's, more than a few run in the 11's, all motor 5.7's running 12's all over the place, and full exhaust and a CAI run 13's


Def. not slow and way too fast to be considered average.........

2005rtmag
09-27-2007, 09:58 PM
There are lots of cars out there today that will run close to the RT, including 268hp V6 Toyota Camrys and Nissans. Like I said, I'm happy with the performance of my RT, but a drag racing machine is not what it is. It's just too heavy. Of course with modifications you can make anything run faster.

My Magnum has tons of room for 4 people, luggage, and it tows my boat. It is also faster than my last car, a 280hp 95 Mark VIII. It does not handle as well as the Mark though. I need a larger rear sway bar.

MikeEast
09-27-2007, 10:28 PM
I don't street race, but have been a regular at Atlanta Dragway for Friday night test-n-tune nights, where you run against whoever is next to you in the staging lanes. Might be a 10-second nitrous car, or a 20 second junker.

It's real nice to have a "Big Fat American Station Wagon" that can humble the unwary - no bracket racing on Fridays, all heads-up starts. I've been crushed by 4-wheel drive diesel pickups and Corvettes as well as several classics bits, olders Camaro, El Caminos and the like.

But one poor dude in a red Mustang GT and I have raced easily 35-40 times and he's not beaten me once. Every week or two he'd show up all happy-like, thinking his new throttle body/CAI/headers/drag radials/3.73 rear gear etc etc would finally beat me this time. Every time he'd step up, my Magnum RT was up for it. My best is a 13.7 @ 100.2 and haven't ever broken 2.0 for a 60' time. But it's real consistant and with a good launch surprises a lot of folks. Nope, not a real good dragster, but a whole lot of fun. People do not expect this car to be this quick.

Mike

06magnums.x.t.
09-27-2007, 11:37 PM
There are lots of cars out there today that will run close to the RT, including 268hp V6 Toyota Camrys and Nissans. Like I said, I'm happy with the performance of my RT, but a drag racing machine is not what it is. It's just too heavy. Of course with modifications you can make anything run faster.

My Magnum has tons of room for 4 people, luggage, and it tows my boat. It is also faster than my last car, a 280hp 95 Mark VIII. It does not handle as well as the Mark though. I need a larger rear sway bar.


Now that's sad. I too have read that Car and Driver got 5.9 seconds to 60 which is unbelievable for a boring family hauler.

MomsR/T
09-28-2007, 01:09 AM
i think the difference is that a couple of bolt ons and on street tires the RT goes 13.3 - 13.5

The toyota's are NOT keeping up and the mods market in the LX stuff are just going to surpase the import.

But once again, the question was is it fast........

If its not, what full size car is?

MagnumFan7
09-28-2007, 06:48 AM
I appreciate the power at cruising speed (like for passing on a two-lane). Just hold the autostick left, and drop the hammer. Sweet.

rander
09-28-2007, 07:50 AM
I killed a C6 corvette, not the C6 z06, with my mods. Of course, i had the juice and was at the track. I think this is the best accomplishment yet for me.

formerice
09-28-2007, 07:55 AM
The other performance aspect, handeling, for a few $$ you can make these beast handle pretty decent. I kept the stock RT springs and rear Nivos, but replaced the front struts with the SRT ones, then put on the Hotchkiss sway bars. Sticks like glue with the big BFG's.

LX HEMI
09-28-2007, 08:06 AM
You can't call any kill a kill if you use juice. It's an unfair advantage. It take the real competitive aspect away. You might as well take steriods and go beat up on 4th graders.

bklynmag
09-28-2007, 08:26 AM
You can't call any kill a kill if you use juice. It's an unfair advantage. It take the real competitive aspect away. You might as well take steriods and go beat up on 4th graders.

My two cents:

If racer A goes out and spends a grand on an exhaust and racer B spends that same grand on a nitrous set up, they both just made different choices on how to mod. Both are power adders. Just like turbos or superchargers. This has always been an ongoing debate so I don't expect to change an opinion but it has to be one of the best bangs for your buck . . . what is the down side?

TimR/T
09-28-2007, 07:12 PM
in my opinion, juice counts! Anything to make ya go faster.:racing:

Mr.Mopar
09-29-2007, 10:47 PM
You can't call any kill a kill if you use juice. It's an unfair advantage. It take the real competitive aspect away. You might as well take steriods and go beat up on 4th graders.
Are you for real? I mean you can't be serious? Where have you been racing? :blam:

daddystoy
09-30-2007, 12:14 AM
:popcorn:

JimIsland-SRT8
09-30-2007, 01:34 AM
So if someone beats me with a CAI, B&G, and whatever, and i'm stock, that doesn't count as a kill??? COOL!!! I'm going to keep my sled stock and stay un-defeated.....unless of course we are both stock:Na_Na_Na_Na:

cm2005300
09-30-2007, 07:56 PM
Beleive Me Going From Touring To The 5.7 Is Fast Enough

gremlinsteve
09-30-2007, 08:49 PM
is a 12.46 fast enough for ya?

steve

Bo
09-30-2007, 09:09 PM
You can't call any kill a kill if you use juice. It's an unfair advantage. It take the real competitive aspect away. You might as well take steriods and go beat up on 4th graders.

Clearly..... words spoken by someone that has been killed by a nitrous car.

Run what you brung.... and hope you brung enough! :thumbs_u:

--Bo

392Stu
09-30-2007, 09:32 PM
Clearly..... words spoken by someone that has been killed by a nitrous car.

Run what you brung.... and hope you brung enough! :thumbs_u:

--Bo

On the street it's all about who shows who the taillights since you normally don't know what the other guys mods are and it doesn't matter if you do, not that I street race anymore. Personally I'm interested in the challange of N/A HP but I respect the potential of boost or N2O. But if you start witht he best NA package then you are just going to go that much faster on spray.

To add to the question asked in the post. A 5.7 hemi LX can more than hold it's own with whats out there and modded responds well too so you can run about as fast as your mind and pocket book allow.

Spiffywerks
10-01-2007, 12:52 AM
There is always someone faster.

The 5.7 really is not THAT much slower than the SRT when your out on the open road. Even the figures show only about 1 second or so difference on the quarter mile. Will you notice that alot in your daily driving? No.

I do have to say, the passing gear in these cars is great. When you need to get from 50 to 80+ mph to pass someone... the 5.7L does it's job very nicely.

Plus, you can roast your tires just the same as an SRT can. (Just the SRT can do it in more gears hehe.)

But really, if your looking for a very fast car, you wouldn't be driving an automatic, nor looking at this lead sled. Many smaller cars with lots of power (Subaru WRX, Mitsubishi EVO) are in the same price range and have loads of go power if you define "fast" that way. But they are way smaller cars.

Also, for the price of an SRT-8 ($45k sticker) you could pick up a C6 Corvette and then you'd have one of the best bang for the buck sports cars out there. (Let alone the aftermarket is HUGE)

MomsR/T
10-01-2007, 01:16 AM
actually..................modified, the 5.7 runs side by side with a SRT8..........as of today, InferAl ran a 12.4x with STOCK bottom end 5.7 with no nitrous, no blower, no turbo, and no stroker.

The fastest all motor, stock 6.1 bottom end car (2 actually) is a 12.4X

So, you tell me..............fast enough?

2005rtmag
10-01-2007, 08:24 PM
[quote=Spiffywerks;1125790]There is always someone faster.

The 5.7 really is not THAT much slower than the SRT when your out on the open road. Even the figures show only about 1 second or so difference on the quarter mile. Will you notice that alot in your daily driving? No.

I'd just like to point out that 1 second could be about 10 car lengths in a quarter mile. You would really notice it!

MAGNASAURUS
10-02-2007, 12:43 AM
I love catching the local ricers by surprise in my Magnum. My TA looks and sounds fast, not too stealthy. I've beaten an older 5.0 Mustang, a modded CRX, Prelude and a Turbo Jetta with the Magnum. My wife spanked me in the TA though!!

MagnumRT05
10-02-2007, 01:04 AM
I have yet to go against an SRT8 here since no one owns them by me, so I couldnt comment on it, but the 5.7s are decent. Ive never "raced" with stock tires and nothing but me in the car, so id say at about 4800+ lbs (me + audio + car + 22s), its a killer car and has beat alot of cars. I always wonder what I would do to some cars if I didnt have all the extra weight :)