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needasrt4
06-05-2004, 11:41 AM
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SPECIAL THANX TO WOODHOUSE DODGE & BILL PEMBERTON!!
Our newest toy was pulled off the trailer last night at 10pm, wheels went on at 11pm, here's a pic of it this morning after we got it cleaned up.
Tell me what you think.
PS. Anyone looking, I have a set of RT Magnum wheels & tires with less than 50 miles on them in mint condition.
Glad you got it! Only getting a red X though. :(
BlackMagnum
06-05-2004, 12:20 PM
You have to be an SRT Forum member to see that image....
http://www.runlevel6.com/dodge/photos/whitemagnum.jpg
needasrt4
06-05-2004, 12:22 PM
thanx man, it was coming through fine on our end
BlackMagnum
06-05-2004, 12:24 PM
So tell us about your wheels. Many of us don't know what options we have for aftermarket wheels. What were your options? How much?
srt4geezer
06-05-2004, 12:33 PM
Just saw this over on the SRT forum. Congrats. Wish mine was here. I went to the dealer & had them add the heated seats to the order. Well, they canceled my original ORDER & entered a new one to reflect the change. I am pissed. If I had known that is what they had to do, I would not have made the change.
needasrt4
06-05-2004, 12:59 PM
we work for a wheel & tire shop so we got a good deal on them
they are 22"X10" Limited 665 15et offset with Pirelli 265/35/22 Assymetrico
the fit could not have been any better or any worse, they are perfectly flush front & rear with the fender flares, the tie rod end bolt is a hair FROM touching the tire but does not touch and you can't get your finger in between the back of the wheel/tire and the control arm but nothing touches when you turn the wheel or when you go over bumps, in essence, they fit like a glove but barely
I keep hearing about this tie-rod issue. Seems odd they would position it so close to the wheel?
needasrt4
06-05-2004, 02:06 PM
you just gotta be careful about what your doing, we had to ORDER the wheels without HAVING the car in hand yet and just took the best guess we could and we got extremely lucky.
Stock tire is 8.85" wide and 28.6" tall
We went 10.43" wide and 29.3" tall, this I believe is the absolute max you can go without heavy modifications.
bigdaddyoc
06-05-2004, 02:15 PM
Now I'm wondering if my wheels are going to fit. I went the 20" route with 275/40/20. This tire size was almost an identical match(28.6 stock, 28.7 with the 20's) but width wise is where my concern is. Lets see...you went 265's on 10" wide..I went 275's on 9" wide....what do you think? Or wait..was it 9.5"..damn I forget now but I'm pretty sure its 9.5". Working in a wheel shop whats your opinion?
needasrt4
06-05-2004, 02:19 PM
its also gonna depend on your offset, as long as you are willing to use a spacer to bring it away FROM the control to keep FROM scrubbing your fine, we do it all the time and thought we were going to have to last night but its extremely close.
E55 KEV
06-06-2004, 09:27 AM
nice car and wheels needasrt4, I know that you will want to lower it when springs or kits are available. Do you think the 265 width tires will fit on a lowered car? I think that those using 265 and trying to use 275 tires up front will have to revert to maybe a 245 width when the car is lowered. Very few cars can go FROM a 225 OEM size to 265 and 275 without serious mods.
needasrt4
06-06-2004, 02:04 PM
It sits perfect where it is right now, there is a 2 finger width fender gap between tire and fender on both front and rear and it does not sit any higher up off the ground than stock height so we are very happy with the results. If we do lower it, it will be bagged but we will have to go with a differnet setup in ORDER for the wheels to tuck for a clean drop.
smoove7410
06-06-2004, 04:32 PM
bag it!!! that would look awesome>
bigdaddyoc
06-06-2004, 08:35 PM
The only reason I'm trying to go to the 275/40/20 is because of its match in size to stock. They don't make a 245/45/20 which would also be a near perfect match and going with the 245/40 is almost a 3/4" smaller diameter. I wasn't going with that size because I thought it needed the width.
davidl13
06-06-2004, 10:13 PM
do they fit a 2005 dodge grand caravan???
needasrt4
06-06-2004, 10:51 PM
David, send me an email tomorrow to remind me and I will call one of my distributors and CHECK your lug pattern and factory tire size. abad71camaro@aol.com
E55 KEV
06-07-2004, 10:14 AM
do they fit a 2005 dodge grand caravan???
I doubt they will fit. The offset of et24 is too low and the hub centerbore is different.
needasrt4
06-07-2004, 03:12 PM
Yeah, you have a high postive offset and the tire is way too big as well
RTon20s
06-11-2004, 12:29 AM
Congratulations on being the first person to make a Magnum look GHETTO. 22s are nice, but if you work at a wheel shop, you should know how cheap and "bling" those Limited wheels are. You could have at least shown some respect for the car buy buying some quality billet wheels.
fluxanimator
06-11-2004, 12:57 AM
Congratulations on being the first person to make a Magnum look GHETTO. 22s are nice, but if you work at a wheel shop, you should know how cheap and "bling" those Limited wheels are. You could have at least shown some respect for the car buy buying some quality billet wheels.
I think it looks nice. Everyone likes different things. Some people even hate the way the Magnum looks without those rims. Ease up. A little angry for your very first post.
BlackMagnum
06-11-2004, 09:25 AM
I'm looking for some replacement 18" brushed aluminum wheels with more performance oriented tires -- something distinctive with purpose.
To each his own -- I don't care for large wheels or polished wheels or the stock tires (and run-flats)..
needasrt4
06-11-2004, 09:31 AM
Look *******, yes I do work for a rim & tire shop. And Limited and Players is one of our major lines, its an advertising thing. 1) If your customers think that you are too good to roll on something you sell everyday, then you aren't very likely gonna promote sales that way. 2) Limited is far FROM a "cheap" line of wheels, they are actually more expensive per wheel than most other brands such as Kruz, Epic, American Racing, Helo, etc. Pardon me for not HAVING $8k spare cash to go out and put some Boyd Coddingtons on there.
You could have at least shown some respect for the car buy buying some quality billet wheels.
I'd be more concerned about showing respect for the members and their personal choices before you worry about showing respect for a car.
Congratulations on being the first person to make a Magnum look GHETTO. 22s are nice, but if you work at a wheel shop, you should know how cheap and "bling" those Limited wheels are. You could have at least shown some respect for the car buy buying some quality billet wheels.
So RTon20s, let's see your RT on 20s. Don't be afraid to SHOW us pics - I'm sure no one would think of commenting on your taste in wheels :wink:
RTon20s
06-11-2004, 02:36 PM
Congratulations on being the first person to make a Magnum look GHETTO. 22s are nice, but if you work at a wheel shop, you should know how cheap and "bling" those Limited wheels are. You could have at least shown some respect for the car buy buying some quality billet wheels.
So RTon20s, let's see your RT on 20s. Don't be afraid to SHOW us pics - I'm sure no one would think of commenting on your taste in wheels :wink:
My RT isn't a Magnum. I own a '99 Dakota R/T, and haven't purchased a Magnum, YET. If you want to see pix of my truck it is easy enough to find at http://www.streetsourcemag.com Go to the owner profiles and look under Dakota. My s/n there is the same as here RTon20s. And if you are to lazy to look the wheels on my truck are Intro Champion 6. The quality of Intro (as well as other billet manufacturers) wheels are infinitely superior to that of Limited's line up, as well as most other cast wheel manufacturers.
I am also going to be selling the 20s very soon, or maybe even keeping them to throw on when I really want to thrash my truck. It is bagged now and is set up to lay 22s all the way around. Once I get some other details worked out I will be ordering my next set of Intros.
I sure hate it when flame sessions start, but I hate it MORE when it is FROM someone that seems to have made an appearance just to FLAME someone. Best thing said so far was .... to respect the members before you respect a car! IMHO or my $.02 Purely my opinion, not meaning to fan the flames.
RTon20s
06-11-2004, 07:47 PM
I'll try and address all of the comments to me with this one post. If I miss someone I am sorry. If you have a concern I don't address, post again and I will try and reply.
Flame? Maybe... maybe not. I plan on being very active on this board. I have been following for a few weeks now, but just signed up the other night. I have read every single thread in the RT section, and quite few of these others. It isn't as if I am unfamiliar with this place, and I think all of us are pretty much noobies here. The board is too new to have veterans already.
I have respect for members, but I still think the choice of wheels is a very bad call on a wheel shops part. I am only 25, but have been around custom cars all of my life. Building my own since I was 16. Regardless of what some "expert" FROM a tire shop says in here Limited wheels are crap. I have seen plenty of sets in person, and the quality is marginal at best. And I am sorry, but comparing one crappy brand with other crappy brands does not make a sub par wheel look any better. Anyone in the wheel industry would laugh when they saw your comparisons.
And $8k for Coddington's... who do you think you are kidding?! Even at retail, and the VERY high end of retail the best Coddington's with expensive tires in the size you listed are under $5k. Anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge could get the best Coddington's out the door for under $4500. Lower end for around $3500. And something for those of you not in the know... Coddington has the loosest tolerences of all of the top billet wheel manufacturers. So poor that it can cause a wheel to be unbalancable!
Those limited don't go any where near that at retail prices and that is a direct reflection on their manufacturing and quality. Look in any Lowrider (I am sure you have one laying around) and Limited wheels can be found for under $1500 in 22" all day long and under $2500 for a wheel and tire package. And as I said... a direct reflection of their quality. Hardly precision, cheap chroming and wavy chroming, and I won't even get INTO style, since after all it is subjective.
Now some of you may have not liked the tone of my first post. That is fine, we aren't all always going to get along. But I plan on being in here for a while, and I'm not here just to stir stuff up. I make positive contributions to several other forums and newsgroups all over the internet, and plan on doing the same here. And like many of you said. Styling is subjective, I shared my opinion of the styling, and quality this member chose to "represent" his shop.
FStephenMasek
06-12-2004, 01:09 AM
I suspect that the extreme extra weight of many of the fad wheels will soon lead to legislation to ban, or at least control the sale of such items. The federal government is already working on banning aftermarket tail lights. The huge and heavy wheels can be a real safety hazard, overloading the hubs & bearings, and increasing stopping distances. If the wrong LOAD range tire is used, blowouts are also likely. It is not just a matter of style or personal preference.
I suspect that the extreme extra weight of many of the fad wheels will soon lead to legislation to ban, or at least control the sale of such items. The federal government is already working on banning aftermarket tail lights. The huge and heavy wheels can be a real safety hazard, overloading the hubs & bearings, and increasing stopping distances. If the wrong LOAD range tire is used, blowouts are also likely. It is not just a matter of style or personal preference.
As well as harsh ride due to very low sidewalls. Oh, not only longer braking, but did you know that it takes more power to get big (wide and/or taller) wheels moving? So you are also slowing the vehicle during acceleration!
But if you are just after looks, the full wheel wells do look nicer.
needasrt4
06-14-2004, 03:31 PM
Just an update, apparently someone out there does like the wheels, they sold right off the car on Saturday afternoon. We are currently searching out our next set of wheels, probably a set of 22" TIS04.
So you reference all this high dollar **** and then you say where you can find your car: Streetsourcemag.com which is an absolute joke of all jokes internet magazine company. Street Source offered us their Cover page for our SRT4 and we turned them down because we didn't want to disgrace the car like that.
Maybe it is just that we are in entirely seperate markets of the industry but here in the SouthEast, Boyd Coddingtons are the wheel to have if you ever plan on getting your car shot in a magazine. Yes, you Boyd Coddinton prices were correct for Polished Aluminum, but Boyd no longer Chromes rims, they charge a heavy additional amount for them to send them out and have them nicely chromed.
And yes, in the Lowrider magazine you can buy LIimited for $2700 wheels & tires, but the wheel scene in Cali is far different FROM what it is here. We sell Limited everyday for $3200 rims & tires without an ounce of hesitation FROM the customers.
Lastly, I think our shop has decent taste in what we do, we have held the cover of MiniTruckin magazine twice in the last 8 months and countless other features and articles including features on the shop itself. The Magnum has already been offered a full feature before it even arrived here by at least 2 magazines just because they know the quality vehicles we build. Unfortunately Shaun & I won't have the money for an all out build until our SRT4 is sold.
Hersbird
06-14-2004, 10:15 PM
I think it looks fine, personally I'd rather have 17" steel rims and dog dish hubcaps spend $4500 on a turbo, but if you work at a tire place, this makes perfect sense. I also realize some people are more INTO looks then performance, and they do look better. I don't think he needs to be flamed over it. I suppose you are used to some of the other web boards out there, where there is a lot of trash talk and hopefully it's all good natured. I don't think this board is like that, and hopefully it won't get that way. I suppose you are aware of www.dodgedakotas.com which completely went to the dogs with all kinds of supposedly like minded people finding any reason to trash somebody else's truck. www.neons.org got to be that way also. Personally I think it would be a lot better around here if you listened to your mom, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Or if all else fails I suppose RTon20s can be "that guy", every forums needs one or two!
PS I was a proud owner of a 2000 Dakota RT up until I got the Hemi Ram (also on 20's until I "downgraded" to lighter 17's that knocked .3 off my 1/4 mile times), now I'd like a Magnum but want to see the Charger and wait for the used market to spit out some better deals.
Hersbird
06-14-2004, 10:33 PM
FStephen, I don't think they will ban or control the big wheels, the 4x4's have been running around with much heavier wheel and tire combos that also make the rollover rate insanely unsafe yet that has been going on since the 80's. I think a Magnum with it's modern braking system running a set of 22's with near stock overall tire diameter, isn't anywhere near as bad a a 4 cylinder 85 Toyota pickup with drum brakes and 36 inch tall tires. This is still a free market and while they will work to LIMIT what the automakers put out stock, the aftermarket is about impossible to control. Personally I say that's the way it should be, at least on the national level.
Rev.Hammer
06-15-2004, 09:38 AM
Settle down everybody!
This is a moot point aguement. So why get all foamy at the lips about it?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and evil is in the hole of the behinder!
RTon20s
06-15-2004, 03:51 PM
I will quit commenting on the quality of your wheel choices, as it seems obvious that you have your "SouthEast" style down.
And as far as your comment on the streetsource.com site I have to agree. I hardly visit that site at all any more. The only reason I linked to there is that people wanted to see my truck. If you want to know where to get quality information in the whole truck scene I recommend http://www.sportruck.com.
What shop do you work for? And which covers did you get on
Minitruckin'?
And call me an ******* or whatever all you want... but I can't hold my tongue on a couple of things.
First: Just because you can sell a low quality wheel for 20% more than what others sell them for does not make them any better. All that it means is that you have ignorant (look it up) customers, and you take advantage of that. Congratulations.
Second: TIS or Twenty Inch Strong wheels. For those that do not know these are nothing more than American Racing wheels. Why the new name for this wheel series? Because American Racing new that they could not sell that type of wheel with their name on it. So they came up with a bling-bling type name and slapped it on. Watch the sells soar as the ignorant buy them up, never knowing they are over paying for an American Racing wheel. Shoot you have to look pretty hard at their website to even see any sort of American Racing at all.
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