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Hurst Equipped
04-07-2007, 10:54 PM
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Inked*Gamer
04-07-2007, 11:06 PM
I would go to another dealer....I went to my dealer and he told be that it just needs to be recalibarted....I also didn't have to pay, but some dealers might charge and hour -1/2 hour of labor. Hope this helps and IMO I wouldn't go back there if they don;t know how to do this.
i need to get the passenger seat air bag reset or recalibrated or something. i changed out my interior and now the passenger air bag light is on. i knew this would happen, but my dealer is clueless on how to fix it.
he said there is no recalibration of the air bag, but maybe he could clear the code. thanks, but i don't have any codes for this. anyone know what i can do to turn the light off???
STAGE 3 R/T
04-07-2007, 11:09 PM
lookin for something like this?
yes, you should be more worried about it. even if the PADL (passenger airbag disabled lamp) is off, it doesn't mean the airbag will deploy as intended.
how it should work:
- when the OCM (occupant clasification module) detects that the seat is empty, the PADL is off and the airbag is suppressed.
- when the OCM detects a weight equivalent to a rear facing infant seat, the PADL is on and the airbag is suppressed.
- when the OCM detects a weight equivalent to a child, the PADL is off and the airbag is enabled and if necessary, deploys but is limited to a low risk deployment level.
- when the OCM detects a weight equivalent to or greater than a fifth percentile female, the PADL light is off and the airbag is enabled and if necessary, deploys based on the severity of the impact.
NOTE: the fifth percentile female is determined as follows. if all potential occupants were averaged by size and plotted on a bell curve, the majority of occupants would be in the middle of the curve.at the outer edges of the curve, some occupants would be very large and those at the other end would be very small. at the fifth percentile range (smallest 5%), the majority of occupants would be female.
if the OCM is out of calibration, the airbag could deploy at too high force, too low force or not at all which may not adequately protect the occupant.
OCS calibration can only be performed by your dealer as it requires the use of a starscan and seat weights specially designed to mimic RFIS, 6 year old child and fifth percentile female.
if you value your occupants, get this done asap.
Cdn_Magnum
04-07-2007, 11:28 PM
Crucial last line there HawaiiHEMI!!!!
STAGE 3 R/T
04-07-2007, 11:35 PM
Crucial last line there HawaiiHEMI!!!!
got it from this thread
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=43797&highlight=recalibrate
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GasGunR
04-07-2007, 11:40 PM
Tony,
Try another dealer... you should get this done ASAP.
Don
fnkychkn
04-08-2007, 12:05 AM
it's not the airbag that is recalibrated, it's the OCS (occupant classification system). if your dealer doesn't know how to do this, which i find hard to believe, tell them to learn.
from starscan main menu >>> ECU view >>> OCM >>> more options >>> system test.
follow onscreen instructions.
fnkychkn
04-08-2007, 08:16 AM
if i find a smarter dealer to have this done, will i lose my B&G pcm tune?
not unless they decide to do you a favor and update your PCM. OCS recalibration does not affect software. it just forces the OCM (module) to learn seat weight sensor values at different stress levels.
MikeEast
04-08-2007, 03:40 PM
But I'd always have a 'stock' tune whenever there even the remotest chance that someone would tamper with it, and since they obviously don't know the starscan very well, they just might be tempted to try all the options out on your car.
You just can't never tell what some of these guys are going to do...
Mike
oh, and "dumbass_dealer_count = dumbass_dealer_count + 1"
RobAGD
04-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Tony - I put a post it note on my passenger side dash " If your in this seat and we are in an accident you will die" that seems to cut down on teh # of people asking for rides :)
its rather simple to recal, you just need an ass-o-meter and thats a tool only the dealer has.
Mine was finally fixed (mostly) but it seems to be very close to setting off the light andf its been flipping out over the last few days.
It was fine from when I picked up teh car until I got back from cali :/
-R
MikeEast
04-08-2007, 10:01 PM
Whenever my little white dog hops into the the right front seat the airbag light lights, so it can detect 14lbs real nice.
Rob: Very Cool Sign to have on your dash - that rocks..
Mike
GasGunR
04-08-2007, 10:12 PM
Hey!
I rode in the passenger seat at Rt 66 when we were listening for your header rattle... or did I drive it, I forget! I hate getting old:)i've never had a passenger and most likely never will, but i will ask another dealer about 20 miles south of me if they know about this procedure.
thanks guys.
RobAGD
07-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Tony its in the service manaual, they should be able to look it up in the dealerconnect system. I would hit Funky up for a copy and paste and pring that out for them if they are that lacking.
-R
fnkychkn
07-10-2007, 10:08 PM
i have a appointment at a third dealer wednesday at 4:00pm to try a solve the OCS recalibration. does anyone know the procedure to do this and maybe i can show the tech how it's done.
two dealers lacked the knowledge or the ability to recal the ocs for me. this will be my third and final try at turning off the airbag lights.
for OCS calibration procedure, see post #7 in this thread.
GasGunR
07-11-2007, 09:41 PM
Told you so;)
Bettenhausen is the best dealer in the Chicagoland area:)
Glad you got it straightened out!
Don
fnkychkn
07-11-2007, 09:42 PM
glad you got it fixed. it really isn't that difficult of a procedure. the hardest part is lifting those damn seat weights.
GasGunR
07-11-2007, 09:47 PM
Yea, but warrantying it was the sweet part:)
Bubba's Dragon
11-22-2007, 09:40 PM
it's not the airbag that is recalibrated, it's the OCS (occupant classification system). if your dealer doesn't know how to do this, which i find hard to believe, tell them to learn.
from starscan main menu >>> ECU view >>> OCM >>> more options >>> system test.
follow onscreen instructions.
what is the first weight value?
then what is the second weight value?
fnkychkn
11-22-2007, 10:34 PM
what is the first weight value?
then what is the second weight value?
it's not just the weight value, it's the position of the weight relative to the seat. that's why it is shaped like an ass. the weight must be precise and so must the positioning to maintain the proper center of gravity. the weight on the seat must be properly distributed to all 4 seat weight sensors.
the base weight which is supposed to mimic a RFIS (rear facing infant seat) weighs 17 kg/37 lbs.
the second weight (4.5 kg/10 lbs), when added to the base weight (RFIS), is meant to mimic the weight of an average six year old child for a total of 21.5 kg/47 lbs.
the third weight (24 kg/52 lbs), when added to the first two weights, is meant to mimic the weight of a 5th percentile female for a total of 45 kg/99 lbs.
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