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E8502
03-10-2004, 08:18 PM
DaimlerChrysler Press Release (login needed):

"Rear-Wheel-Drive Architecture Combined with Technology Make Chrysler Group’s Newest Vehicles Winners Year Round

Technology Gives the 2005 Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum Capability and Competence in Winter Driving Conditions Without Compromising Comfort and Performance

REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE SYSTEM

Rear-wheel drive is standard on all 2005 Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum vehicles. Using rear-wheel drive architecture for these vehicles gives them several advantages in the large-car market.

“Rear-wheel drive offers the best vehicle balance and handling, and a performance-car experience without any compromises in performance or luxury,” said Eric Ridenour, Executive Vice President Product Development, Chrysler Group. “It separates the steering and acceleration duties. This eliminates compromises and enables enhanced performance and handling.”

Rear-wheel drive architecture allowed the design studio significantly to alter the overall profile of the vehicle for luxury and performance proportions. Most notable are a longer hood and front fenders, short front overhang, and improved ride, handling and impressive stance that comes with the tires pushed to the corners.

Advancements in technology in the last five years enables a rear-wheel-drive large car to perform with all-season capability. Electronic Stability Program (ESP), All-Speed Traction Control System (TCS), advanced Anti-Lock Brake Systems (ABS) and tire technologies have reached new levels of performance.

ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM (ABS) AND ALL-SPEED TRACTION CONTROL SYSTEM (TCS)

A combined Anti-Lock Brake System and All-Speed Traction Control System is standard with the 3.5- and 5.7-liter engines; it is optional with the 2.7-liter V-6. Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum are the first Chrysler Group vehicles to offer all-speed traction control.

ABS keeps the vehicle straight while retaining steering capability when braking on slippery surfaces by preventing wheel lock-up. It benefits from state-of-the-art electronics that provide faster system response than in the past.

All-Speed TCS enhances mobility and prevents wheel slip when accelerating on slippery surfaces. Depending on how slippery it is, an automatically activated “Winter Mode” feature will select lower transmission up-shift speeds on the five-speed automatic transmission. It also provides a measure of directional stability control – an advancement beyond prior traction control systems. Using the wheel-speed sensors, it can detect excessive yaw and help keep the car on the intended course as, for instance, when accelerating around a curve.

In addition to low traction braking situations, All-Speed TCS can use throttle control as well. This makes the vehicle less reliant on brake application alone to maintain traction, increases the operating speed range and more closely modulates speed, resulting in smoother operation. With all-speed TCS reducing engine torque when accelerating, it is possible to achieve almost seamless torque application at the wheels. All-Speed TCS also benefits from state-of-the-art electronics that provide much faster system response than in the past.

ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP)

Electronic Stability Program, which includes a Brake Assist feature, is standard on 3.5- and 5.7-liter engines.* It is optional with the 2.7-liter V-6, and offered for the first time on a North American-built Chrysler Group automobile.

This system enhances driver control and helps maintain directional stability in turns, including uneven surface conditions and patchy snow, ice or gravel. If there’s a discernible difference between what the driver asks through the steering and the vehicle’s path, ESP applies selective braking and throttle input to put the car back onto the driver’s intended path.

The system is calibrated to offer safe control of the vehicle under a variety of conditions, and to operate in a manner that is not intrusive in normal or spirited driving.

ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE SYSTEM

All-wheel drive provides the solution to those who require the best in passenger-car four-season traction. It is available with the 3.5-liter high-output engine, as well as the 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine.

The all-wheel-drive system adds a front differential and a transfer case compared to the rear-wheel drive configuration. The power is divided between the front and rear differentials and is transmitted to both axles at all times. The transfer case is a planetary center differential that delivers 62 percent of the engine torque to the rear axle and 38 percent to the front.

By driving continuously through all four wheels, the all-wheel-drive system provides excellent cornering balance under all driving conditions, and better traction in snow and wet-weather conditions. Combined with All-Speed TCS and ESP, performance and stability are outstanding under all traction conditions."

Warlord187
03-10-2004, 09:31 PM
I will certainly be getting the AWD.

E8502
03-10-2004, 11:04 PM
I will certainly be getting the AWD.
I'm mad that am not!!

I really should...There still is time...But I would lose my $500 deposit.

YB Normyl
04-04-2004, 06:52 PM
The ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP) works great in the snow, I couldn't believe how good it was. I haven't driven the AWD in the snow but it should be a dream.

DMAG
04-05-2004, 08:24 AM
The ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP) works great in the snow, I couldn't believe how good it was. I haven't driven the AWD in the snow but it should be a dream.

Yup, it seems every review I read....the snow driving is just as good as a front driver. They all say the ESP is incredible. :wink:

BlackMagnum
04-05-2004, 10:46 AM
The BMW folks have talked about this for years. RWD + Traction Control is no problem in the snow or rain. However, snow tires are still a must.


The ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (ESP) works great in the snow, I couldn't believe how good it was. I haven't driven the AWD in the snow but it should be a dream.

Yup, it seems every review I read....the snow driving is just as good as a front driver. They all say the ESP is incredible. :wink:

E55 KEV
04-05-2004, 10:59 AM
I originally wanted the AWD because the Magnum will be replacing my Ford Explorer Sport Trac, however, I'd rather go for the performance.

The AWD will ride 1" higher and the standard cars desparetly need to be lowered - they have too much wheel gap for my taste and few aftermarket suspension tuners make performance lowering kits for AWD cars. I did not like the power split - 62% rear and 38% front. I also want to do a staggered wheel/tire setup and that can not generally be done on AWD cars.

Plus I don't get a lot of snow.

DMAG
04-05-2004, 11:06 AM
Plus I don't get a lot of snow.

Watch out Kev....that's exactly when you'll get the Blizzard of '04! :wink:

BlackMagnum
04-05-2004, 11:09 AM
It depends on what type of performance you're looking for. The BMW 3-series with AWD usually tests about a half second quicker than the RWD version in 0-60 times, despite riding higher. It's probably not as good on the twisties. When I think of a Magnum RT with AWD, I start thinking about the Impreza WRX.

I'm also looking forward to tire rotation options. I'm not sure about your E55, but my 330i sport had larger rear tires, and all tires were unidirectional, meaning you couldn't do any sort of rotation. So the insides of the rears go down to nothing while the outsides look nearly new. Very frustrating.

I'll also be looking closely at aftermarket suspension. I don't want to give up any comfort but wouldn't mind a bit of lowering. Bilstein usually sells sets of lowering shocks for European cars that don't require increased stiffness. I'm not sure about the Chrysler world.

I originally wanted the AWD because the Magnum will be replacing my Ford Explorer Sport Trac, however, I'd rather go for the performance.

The AWD will ride 1" higher and the standard cars desparetly need to be lowered - they have too much wheel gap for my taste and few aftermarket suspension tuners make performance lowering kits for AWD cars. I did not like the power split - 62% rear and 38% front. I also want to do a staggered wheel/tire setup and that can not generally be done on AWD cars.

Plus I don't get a lot of snow.

E55 KEV
04-05-2004, 12:10 PM
Plus I don't get a lot of snow.

Watch out Kev....that's exactly when you'll get the Blizzard of '04! :wink:

DMAG, for that type of snow fall I will just stay in and be cozy and dig the Magnum out a week later! :D

E55 KEV
04-05-2004, 12:16 PM
It depends on what type of performance you're looking for.

I'm also looking forward to tire rotation options. I'm not sure about your E55, but my 330i sport had larger rear tires, and all tires were unidirectional, meaning you couldn't do any sort of rotation. So the insides of the rears go down to nothing while the outsides look nearly new. Very frustrating..

Yeah, the E55 has staggered rims and tires also, with no way to rotate the tires. As far as performance I think I want a Performance car instead of a 'Quasi' SUV.

DMAG
04-05-2004, 12:51 PM
Plus I don't get a lot of snow.

Watch out Kev....that's exactly when you'll get the Blizzard of '04! :wink:

DMAG, for that type of snow fall I will just stay in and be cozy and dig the Magnum out a week later! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now you are talkin'!

BlackMagnum
04-05-2004, 02:04 PM
Agreed. I'm looking for a "sport touring" car; high performance but a car that can effortlessly take on hundreds of miles of pavement without jarring the passengers to death. That's not a 330i or E55 in my book (it's really not fair to the E55 to mention them in the same breath), although a 540i does a fine job, at twice the price of a Magnum. I'll find out on my 3,500 mile road trip back to California FROM my "Homeland Delivery" pickup in Cleveland.

I see the Magnum more comparable to a 540iT (wagon) than a Durango Sport. Unfortunately, the US addiction to SUV's has had what I consider negative design influences on the car, notably the ride height and the larger wheels, with flabby tires. The lack of some luxury amenities in the Magnum compared to the 300C is also troubling. I could undestand this if the cars were the same, but badged differently (Mercury versus Lincoln), but they're not.

When I heard the Magnum had 18" wheels, I was concerned about the ride quality, but with H-rated 60 series tires, I've got nothing to worry about, except my wallet when it comes time to REPLACE them.


Yeah, the E55 has staggered rims and tires also, with no way to rotate the tires. As far as performance I think I want a Performance car instead of a 'Quasi' SUV.

E55 KEV
04-05-2004, 03:11 PM
When I heard the Magnum had 18" wheels, I was concerned about the ride quality, but with H-rated 60 series tires, I've got nothing to worry about, except my wallet when it comes time to REPLACE them.

Don't worry about the cost. The Continental tire (non self-seal) used on the Magnum and 300C is only $112 each at Tire Rack. And they have a long tread wear rating of 360AA Overall I think most customers will be dissappointed in the handling of that OEM tire. They came on my 98 E430. That tire is designed for comfort and long wear.

BlackMagnum
04-05-2004, 08:51 PM
Do you know how much the self sealing versions cost? That's what I've ordered and I didn't see them on TireRack.


When I heard the Magnum had 18" wheels, I was concerned about the ride quality, but with H-rated 60 series tires, I've got nothing to worry about, except my wallet when it comes time to REPLACE them.

Don't worry about the cost. The Continental tire (non self-seal) used on the Magnum and 300C is only $112 each at Tire Rack. And they have a long tread wear rating of 360AA Overall I think most customers will be dissappointed in the handling of that OEM tire. They came on my 98 E430. That tire is designed for comfort and long wear.

Warlord187
04-06-2004, 12:36 AM
The added traction of AWD when you rip out of the hole after adding turbo/SC and NAWZ is what I'm looking for. :)


Plus I do live in the snow belt. :)

E55 KEV
04-06-2004, 01:47 AM
Do you know how much the self sealing versions cost? That's what I've ordered and I didn't see them on TireRack.

The self-sealing tire is new and not yet available to the general public. I hope that owners needing replacement can get them FROM other than the dealer.

DMAG
04-06-2004, 08:16 AM
Do you know how much the self sealing versions cost? That's what I've ordered and I didn't see them on TireRack.

The self-sealing tire is new and not yet available to the general public. I hope that owners needing replacement can get them FROM other than the dealer.

Ouch.....that could get pricey. :!: