View Full Version : HID temp, which is better?
Inked*Gamer
03-14-2007, 05:28 AM
I'm planning on purchasing a set of HID's but have question. What tempeture gives the best light output, or what are you guys running?
4300
5000
8000
9000
10000
your in-put is appreciated.
Thanks
Cdn_Magnum
03-14-2007, 07:12 AM
I'm planning on purchasing a set of HID's but have question. What tempeture gives the best light output, or what are you guys running?
4300
5000
8000
9000
10000
your in-put is appreciated.
Thanks
Best would likely be 5000. As you go up you go more blue or cool tempurature. The 4300 is a warmer colour tempurature. Keeping in mind of course that 55watts is 55watts no matter what tempurature so its the same light output for them all.
Paradog
03-14-2007, 07:43 AM
THe HID temp only impacts the color of the light, not its level of output. As the man said 55watts, is 55 watts. I have 8500 on my car now...have a really nice blue look to it!
06chargerdude
03-14-2007, 09:10 AM
got 8k on mine, i love it!!!
DaILLestWun
03-14-2007, 10:03 AM
I have 8000K on mine. Nice blue color. Supposedely, the lower the K's the brighter the light. The higher the K's, the less light output.
4300K if you're using them to actually illuminate where you're going. The human eye can not resolve detail as well, the bluer you go.
It's more than output, it's usuable output that counts.
If you like the colour of a bluer light cause it looks purdy, then you can go up in temperature. Higher temperature is not higher output, nor is is higher visibility.
Super T
03-14-2007, 12:23 PM
^^ what he said. You can't 'use' the blue as well, but it also appears brighter to oncoming traffic simply because of the color.
bookeem
03-14-2007, 12:42 PM
hids run at 35 watts btw..
i personally never get a kit higher than 6000, no lower than 4300,
3500 for yellow fog hids..not all vendors carry them that low though..
Cdn_Magnum
03-14-2007, 01:06 PM
hids run at 35 watts btw..
i personally never get a kit higher than 6000, no lower than 4300,
3500 for yellow fog hids..not all vendors carry them that low though..
;)
Kewl... i was just quoting 55 watts for standard lights cause thats the type i know, since i dont run HID's and didnt want to guess at their output.
I know that our eyes are the part that actually fools us on interpreting the colour as being brighter when its not :)
PhatPhat
03-14-2007, 01:44 PM
i have 6000k hids and people tell me they look purplish, but they look white to me, from experience the lower the k the brighter the light, but i think they will still have a blue or purplish tint to them.
desquirrel
03-14-2007, 04:37 PM
If you bought some aftermarket hack, you really have no idea what you have.
www.danielsternlighting.com (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/)
Go to the tech section.
joseph
03-14-2007, 05:01 PM
4300K is the whitest and brightest, if you want some blue in it go 6000K, but you will lose some brightness, any higher will be too blue/purple and not very bright.
here is my 4300K
Stock headlights with Sylvania ST
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/HID/th_100_1507.jpg (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/HID/100_1507.jpg)
Stock headlights with HID 4300K
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/HID/th_100_1533_00.jpg (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/HID/100_1533_00.jpg)
Projector headlights with same 4300K
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/Projector%20headlight/th_100_1839.jpg (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/Projector%20headlight/100_1839.jpg)
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/Projector%20headlight/th_100_1840.jpg (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h7/pjosephlv/Projector%20headlight/100_1840.jpg)
joseph
03-14-2007, 05:04 PM
BTW: you should get this kit so you won't have the flickering issue: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=57207
Flickering problem: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=53472
Inked*Gamer
03-14-2007, 07:12 PM
Thanks everyone for their .02 cents, I am looking for the temp that will give the best light output and not blind oncoming traffic, but also has a nice blue/purple tint to it. I guess I would say which one would be closer to factory hids, or what temp do most automobile manufacters use. Best match to OEM.
Thanks
Inked*Gamer
03-14-2007, 07:38 PM
BTW: you should get this kit so you won't have the flickering issue: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=57207
Flickering problem: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=53472
I plan on getting them from that source...which temp did you get?
joseph
03-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Thanks everyone for their .02 cents, I am looking for the temp that will give the best light output and not blind oncoming traffic, but also has a nice blue/purple tint to it. I guess I would say which one would be closer to factory hids, or what temp do most automobile manufacters use. Best match to OEM.
Thanks
6000K then
Inked*Gamer
03-20-2007, 03:28 AM
Would a 6500k be good from here I want the brightness but still want a little of the blue/purple tint.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-AUTO-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-6500K-Free-Shipping_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQitemZ13 0071572055QQtcZphoto
joseph
03-20-2007, 04:21 AM
They have a weird way of describing their K colors, and they go by numbers to describe K ranges so it's not a very accurate way of knowing what K you'll get exactly. #6500 should have some blue in it, but they don't mention it, #8000 will be very blue I think, if you want a slight blue, try the #6500.
If you don't like the color, you can always get new bulbs with a different color for $50 here: http://www.xenonrider.com/products/bulbs_ballasts_wiring.shtml
From E-bay:
Available Color temperature: Model No.
Color Temperature
Light color
#5000
4200K~5000K
White
#6500
5500K~6500K
Bright White
#8000
7300K~8300K
Bluish
#10000
9500K~11000K
Deep Blue
Also, let us know if you have any issue with that kit, no flickering... should be ok, but just wanna be sure that kit works in our cars.
Don't forget to mention to the seller that you need the kit that works with computer controlled headlights.
MattRobertson
03-20-2007, 04:43 AM
I wouldn't go any higher than 6000k, for reasons Joseph and others have done a pretty good job of explaining. In my experience the reputable HID vendors will in fact tell you their higher k-output lamps do in fact put out fewer lumens. 4300k would be brightest and would actually bathe the area in front of the car both with the most light, and the most usable light.
If I can ever find the projector housing I want to properly focus the bulbs it'll be 4300-5000k for me.
EDIT:
I googled "hid color temp" and one after another the HID FAQ's that popped up tell the story on light output. Here's probably the shortest and sweetest of them:
The colour temperature is purely a scale to measure the colour of the light output and is measured on the graph shown as an X and Y coordinate. It is a reference purely for colour and could equally be called White , Green or Blue. The reality is the higher up the scale the lamps are the less bright they become. 4100K lamps are approx 20% brighter (measured in Lumens not degrees K) than the 6000K
from http://www.autolamps-online.com/hidonline/information/whatiscolourtemp.htm (http://www.autolamps-online.com/hidonline/information/whatiscolourtemp.htm)
sdcarguy
03-20-2007, 11:32 AM
I ran 5ks in my lows and fogs and they have a slight blue but are super bright. I ran a different kit but was 100% plug and play on my charger but did require the 1.50 capacitor on the magnum we did. MOL who has some inside knowledge figured out that the magnums needed the capacitor due not to the kits fault but the fact that the magnum and the 300 share a wiring harness and the 300 comes with both a hid and regular light option. The magnum is setup for the regular option and when you put in the 35w bulb it goes in to diagnostic mode.
http://forums.srtdistrict.com/showthread.php?t=1040&page=4&highlight=hids
is a link to my pics and write up.
Also Matt from srt4store who gave us the best customer service I have had in a long time offered me another group buy price of 200 a set for anyone that was interested at the spring fling. I know there are cheaper kits and if they work great but my grandmother always taught me that cheap isnt always good and good isnt always cheap...let me know.
DaGeezer
03-20-2007, 04:40 PM
Lotsa good words here. I agree with "desquirrel" THE go-to guy for automotive lighting is Daniel Stern. This guy lives and breathes what makes cars see - and be seen - best.
pigpen
03-20-2007, 07:01 PM
Depending on the Kit 8k Is dang blue but it fads to a white version over time!!
bluv4eva717
03-20-2007, 07:01 PM
Would a 6500k be good from here I want the brightness but still want a little of the blue/purple tint.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-AUTO-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-6500K-Free-Shipping_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQitemZ13 0071572055QQtcZphoto
Hey man. I got this same kit and I asked the same question that you asked what would be the best kit with the whitest and brightest output. The guy told me to go with the 6500K because it will have "the most white and bright whiting output". So I would say go with these. I have not installed mine yet. I have a 300c.
Don Omar
03-20-2007, 10:21 PM
I got a little confused on this thread. Is there a HID kit for the Magnum that it is plug and play? I just read a lot of yes and no's. I am planning on HID kit, but would like something plug and play.
Inked*Gamer
03-20-2007, 11:50 PM
I got a little confused on this thread. Is there a HID kit for the Magnum that it is plug and play? I just read a lot of yes and no's. I am planning on HID kit, but would like something plug and play.
Yes there is a "plug n play" kit fo rthe magnum there is a link in one of my earlier post. 119 shipped from a guy on ebay. There are several people on the forums that have bought from him and they are really happy with it.
Don Omar
03-21-2007, 12:00 AM
Thanks Inked! I liked at the ebay link and it is $199 for the set of the 9006 for the Magnum. I just want to check. Is it the link you posted on #17?
Yes there is a "plug n play" kit fo rthe magnum there is a link in one of my earlier post. 119 shipped from a guy on ebay. There are several people on the forums that have bought from him and they are really happy with it.
lowriderman3
03-21-2007, 12:13 AM
6000k head and fogs here. No bluish or purplish look from that temp.
Inked*Gamer
03-21-2007, 12:25 AM
Thanks Inked! I liked at the ebay link and it is $199 for the set of the 9006 for the Magnum. I just want to check. Is it the link you posted on #17?
That's the one. I tried to look for the email that the seller sent me. I asked him about the flickering problem in the mags. He stated that when you purchase the kit, to make sure and specify the year make and model of the car. He said that they have a special harness that will come with the kit to correct the flickering problem. He also stated that it was atrue plug and play kit. If you have any other questions just let me know:thumbs_u: . I sold a couple of things this past week on ebay, waiting for the winners to pay and then I will be getting the hid kit. I keep everyone updated once I get them and install them.
joseph
03-21-2007, 03:34 AM
I got a little confused on this thread. Is there a HID kit for the Magnum that it is plug and play? I just read a lot of yes and no's. I am planning on HID kit, but would like something plug and play.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=53472
joseph
03-21-2007, 03:38 AM
They have a weird way of describing their K colors, and they go by numbers to describe K ranges so it's not a very accurate way of knowing what K you'll get exactly. #6500 should have some blue in it, but they don't mention it, #8000 will be very blue I think, if you want a slight blue, try the #6500.
If you don't like the color, you can always get new bulbs with a different color for $50 here: http://www.xenonrider.com/products/bulbs_ballasts_wiring.shtml
From E-bay:
Available Color temperature: Model No.
Color Temperature
Light color
#5000
4200K~5000K
White
#6500
5500K~6500K
Bright White
#8000
7300K~8300K
Bluish
#10000
9500K~11000K
Deep Blue
Also, let us know if you have any issue with that kit, no flickering... should be ok, but just wanna be sure that kit works in our cars.
Don't forget to mention to the seller that you need the kit that works with computer controlled headlights.
Also, they say 6500 is bright white and 5000 is white, when in actuality it's the opposite, 5000 will be brighter than 6500.
They should have called 6500=white/blue, and 5000=bright white.
HOT ROD MAGNUM
03-21-2007, 11:43 AM
4300k only way to go for optimum light.
1fastsedan
03-21-2007, 11:47 AM
Thanks everyone for their .02 cents, I am looking for the temp that will give the best light output and not blind oncoming traffic, but also has a nice blue/purple tint to it. I guess I would say which one would be closer to factory hids, or what temp do most automobile manufacters use. Best match to OEM.
Thanks
Best match to OEM is 4300K. The stock HIDs on the 300Cs are 4300K. 5000K will give you the white with a slight blue tint that you mentioned you were looking for. If you want more blue tint, go with 6000K. Below is an install I did this past weekend with 5000K bulbs, both the Charger and Magnum ordered 5000K. The kit was well-built and was a plug and play installation. PM if you want more info about the kit as I got it from a vendor on another forum I participate in.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/sdcarguy/DSC01548.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/sdcarguy/DSC01553.jpg
TorRed PJ
03-21-2007, 11:51 AM
The factory HID's on my JAG are 4300K. Higher kelvins add blue but can draw the attention of the authorities if not DOT approved which most higher K bulbs are not.
bluv4eva717
03-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Hey man. I just installed the eBay kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-...2055QQtcZphoto (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-AUTO-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-6500K-Free-Shipping_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQitemZ13 0071572055QQtcZphoto) in my 300c and I got the 6500K. These lights look very nice and are indeed a bright white no hint of blue at all they are very bright and have nice light output. They look just like the lexus, benzes and bmws. I really got to test them out last night with the weather being foggy and they were 100 times better than stock, the look is amazing!!!
I'm planning on purchasing a set of HID's but have question. What tempeture gives the best light output, or what are you guys running?
4300
5000
8000
9000
10000
your in-put is appreciated.
Thanks
Don Omar
03-25-2007, 06:56 PM
I bought the same kit for lows and fogs in 8000K. I will post as soon as I get them and install them. I am glad that you like yours!
Hey man. I just installed the eBay kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-...2055QQtcZphoto (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9006-AUTO-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-6500K-Free-Shipping_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQitemZ13 0071572055QQtcZphoto) in my 300c and I got the 6500K. These lights look very nice and are indeed a bright white no hint of blue at all they are very bright and have nice light output. They look just like the lexus, benzes and bmws. I really got to test them out last night with the weather being foggy and they were 100 times better than stock, the look is amazing!!!
Don Omar
03-25-2007, 07:04 PM
Inked, let us know when you do the buy and install. Thanks to your thread I purchased this kit in 8000K and can't wait to install them. All this information saved me a lot of cash. I almost bought a kit for $300, that then I would had needed to do the flickering fix.
Thanks! :pepper:
That's the one. I tried to look for the email that the seller sent me. I asked him about the flickering problem in the mags. He stated that when you purchase the kit, to make sure and specify the year make and model of the car. He said that they have a special harness that will come with the kit to correct the flickering problem. He also stated that it was atrue plug and play kit. If you have any other questions just let me know:thumbs_u: . I sold a couple of things this past week on ebay, waiting for the winners to pay and then I will be getting the hid kit. I keep everyone updated once I get them and install them.
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