View Full Version : rear backup sensors....question..
Mr. iNCREDIBLE
11-11-2006, 02:36 PM
I have the OEM rear back up sensors... does anyone know if it is possible to add 2 more sensors to the system and have it work properly? I am considering adding one sensor on each side that would be on the corners as recently my dealer backed my car into a pole because of the blind spot caused by the rear roof pillar......
any one know if adding the extra sensors would cause an issue?
hawkxp
11-11-2006, 06:08 PM
Also... Has anyone considered putting them on the front of the car?
I have thought about the tv to go, putting in a rear view camera, and having the "rear" sensors on the front.
Are they activated by speed or by the reverse switch
Scott
Mr. iNCREDIBLE
11-11-2006, 09:14 PM
reverse switch, I have a back up camera, but it does nothing for the corners....
SmoovC
11-11-2006, 09:19 PM
You could use a couple of alarm proximity sensors, a couple of relays & a piezo beeper....kind of crude, but effective.
Or, if the dealer is replacing the bumper cover, have them move two sensors to the outside, maybe?
fnkychkn
11-11-2006, 11:24 PM
IIRC, the factory park assist module can accept up to ten sensors. never tried to add more than the original four.
it is powered by the back-up lamp circuit.
i'm sure you could make it work on the front. would need a different power source.
ildcide
11-11-2006, 11:38 PM
I am totaly old school, if i hear crying or metal crunching i know I went to far
Mr. iNCREDIBLE
11-12-2006, 06:04 PM
IIRC, the factory park assist module can accept up to ten sensors. never tried to add more than the original four.
it is powered by the back-up lamp circuit.
i'm sure you could make it work on the front. would need a different power source.
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SmoovC
11-12-2006, 06:05 PM
I am totaly old school, if i hear crying or metal crunching i know I went to far
Damn right! :not_worth
Super T
11-12-2006, 08:35 PM
Yeah, lemmie tell ya... when you DO hear that crunching and your rear fascia is cracked, your taillight is obliterated, and your quarterpanel has a little fold in it, you'll not want to go that route anymore!!
Bubba's Dragon
11-13-2006, 06:40 AM
Im all up for installing this in the magnum, I noticed the new 7 BMW and other big $$ cars have them in the front and in the back. I am thinking about how to do this mod also. Thanks Chicken for the info. Need to figure out if I can wire a stock kit or the best thing would be go aftermarket. ^&^
hawkxp
11-13-2006, 12:48 PM
What distance is it set for? The BMW is tied to speed, so when manuvering around a parking lot, its on, but not in traffic...
Scott
Super T
11-13-2006, 02:40 PM
That was gonna be my question... how does it know when to come on? That's going to make the front install a little more tricky... you'd probably be best off just using a switch to interrupt power to the sensors. The question would be can you do that or do you have to use a switch (or separate relay) for each sensor.
ChargerGirl
11-13-2006, 03:10 PM
About how much do these go for? Mine didn't come with one, but after a scary incident on the way to Vegas last month, I want one as my next mod.
Meister
11-24-2006, 12:49 AM
What distance is it set for? The BMW is tied to speed, so when manuvering around a parking lot, its on, but not in traffic...
ScottThe first lamp brightens at around 6 to 8 feet or so. And since this is fixed, not speed-related, if you're backing up at anything but a crawl about the only thing these will do for you is cause you to hit the object all tensed up instead of relaxed. :wink:
So, if you're going to rely on the parking assist system to avoid hitting something behind you, back up very slowly keeping one eye on the lights above the rear window.
If you're waiting for an audible tone as your initial indication of an object behind you're in deep trouble - you're scant inches from contact when the aural tone sounds.
Note: For those with any form of hearing difficulty there is a TSB (free of course) for those wishing the audible warning to be louder. The controller is replaced with a new one and the audible warning is, in fact, louder. No other differences. Simply advise your service writer that you have trouble hearing the parking assist aural warning and he'll take care of you.
OoTLink
11-28-2006, 06:44 AM
The front ones should be 3x more powerful so that when you're at speed they show a number of how many seconds at the current speed until impact (hehehehehehe).
If it goes to infinity, you're fine, but if you start seeing real numbers better start hitting them brakes!
Cars with parking sensors should display some sort of "jackpot" message when the driver ignores them and hits something.
Not very funny is it.
Bandit
11-28-2006, 06:48 AM
I am totaly old school, if i hear crying or metal crunching i know I went to far
"When I hear crying"... LMAO that was hilarious.
WTF... are people really this bad at backing up that they need this system? If I had this much trouble, I think I'd trade out for a car with better rear visability.
pigpen
11-28-2006, 08:55 AM
Bandit did you notice most of these people are from out west they are use to parallel parking for there parking spaces J/K Guys. I am dang good at backing up but sometimes in MN we have a snow banks which is Bi#$h to judge at night!
Bandit
11-28-2006, 08:57 AM
Ya know, I didn't even think of that honestly. Good point.
I haven't had to parallel park in probably 10 years myself so it never crossed my mind.
OoTLink
11-29-2006, 05:54 AM
I have em and use em, they come in handy. Seriously, you can even sorta clue in how far you are from a curb with them o_O
Quick Question...
I had mine installed when I bought my maggie, but like geniouses they only had black ones so I just have the 4 black dots on my back bumper...
If I bought a vial of the color matched paint and paint over the sensors, will that effect them?
Meister
11-29-2006, 12:28 PM
I have em and use em, they come in handy. Seriously, you can even sorta clue in how far you are from a curb with them o_O
I wouldn't be without mine, OoTLink. They add a tremendous amount of confidence to the act of backing up in reduced visibility, which we're always in, BTW - day or night.
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Quick Question...
I had mine installed when I bought my maggie, but like geniouses they only had black ones so I just have the 4 black dots on my back bumper...
If I bought a vial of the color matched paint and paint over the sensors, will that effect them?
Meister
12-05-2006, 05:00 AM
PM fnkychkn. He'll know.
fnkychkn
12-05-2006, 08:09 AM
Quick Question...
I had mine installed when I bought my maggie, but like geniouses they only had black ones so I just have the 4 black dots on my back bumper...
If I bought a vial of the color matched paint and paint over the sensors, will that effect them?
IIRC, there are specific instructions on painting those that come with the kit. i'll look them up and post them here.
NAS T MAG
12-05-2006, 11:11 AM
It says you can paint the trim rings, but not the sensors themselves. My car is black, so they're not real noticeable. But I've noticed they don't work as well when they get covered with slush.
I think I'll just leave them as is then... i have enough other black things on my car that they don't stand out too much (wiper, bumper protecting plate, spoiler...)
Bubba's Dragon
12-06-2006, 04:58 AM
They have some kits that are made in Korea that are real cool Cost $100 Bucks installed. I'll try to take my lazy fat buttocks over to the vendor and see if he will do mine up.. It has distance (in meters sorry all you non metric folks) and also light guage thats separated in half... If anyone is intrested I could help them out.. But will get the box..and post the info.
I have the factory ones so it is audio and visual :) :-P just 4 big black dots on the back bumper... although it was funny because when i was shoing a co-woker my car, i said i wish they were color matched. he was like "I don't know why cars are built with those bold covers like that" I said "uhh those are back up sensors" and then laughed at/with him.... it was funny.
fnkychkn
12-06-2006, 06:49 PM
as per MOPAR park-assist installation instructions:
if painting the sensors to match the vehicle color is desired by the customer, refer to the following four steps:
1- prep surface following standard paint shop procedures for painting plastic components.
2- mix Sikkens brand autobase with diluent 1:1
3- fog-spray one coat of autobase mixture. wait 5 minutes. wet-spray another coat of autobase mixture. let dry for 25 minutes.
4- while autobase is still wet, spray one coat of autoclear (varnish/curing agent/diluent = 5:2 0:15). let dry for 15 minutes. place sensors in heated drying chamber for 60 minutes at 52*C.
NAS T MAG
12-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Sweet! Good post (among your many).
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