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RTjunkie
11-07-2006, 02:18 AM
Alrighty folks! Yet another experimentation by yours-truly!

Major props go out to Trevor who stumbled upon a pinout diagram in the service manual for the Dynamic Sensor Supply.

I would like to include a small foreword before continuing. Please understand that this mod requires disassembly of a portion of your interior in order to gain access to the DSS module. You will also be required to splice into a factory wire and wire both ends to a switch. If this is something you are uncomfortable with, but would still like to have the effect this mod creates, then please see NoESP for an alternative method that is less invasive. (www.noesp.com) Understand that the NoESP mod will cost significantly more to install than my version, but I am by no means suggesting any competition here. This method is for the DIY'ers, while the NoESP mod is designed as a "bolt-on" turn-key solution.

I'm sure some of you have read about the "snip this wire under the hood at the ABS module", etc, etc, that disabled ESP. Well, in fact, this is similar, but a MUCH better solution!

The Violet/Lt. Blue wire (#22 at the ABS module) in fact runs to a sensor under the floor console. This is the Dynamic Sensor Supply module, and is nothing more than a reasonably advanced accelerometer. Those that are unaware of what that is, let me explain.

An accelerometer's purpose is to use multiple internal sensors to try and judge the movement of the object it is mounted to. These sensors are setup internally in different positions to measure accel/decel rates in multiple directions. G-forces are also measured through this device. The rating that some might have seen about 0.8 G's being the limit before ESP/BAS begins to take over, is in fact a number that is recieved directly from this DSS module. It is this module that tells the car how many g-forces you're pulling while turning. Combine that figure with other data such as steering wheel position, throttle position, speed of rotation of the rear wheels, as well as front wheel rotation speed. All of these figures are used by the PCM to make precise calculations on what assistance the computer should apply to the car to keep itself (and the occupant) safe!

Now, on with the mod!


TOOLS AND SUPPLIES NEEDED:

1 Phillips-head screwdriver to remove the floor console
1 10mm (I think) socket to remove the floor console
1 pair of wire strippers/crimpers
2 butt-style connectors
2 crimp on connectors that fit your selected switch.
2 strands of wire, about 14" in length
1 Single Pole / Single Throw switch


Ok, now that you know what the module does, lets cover the wires. It has 4 wires running into it. A positive power wire, a ground wire, a Data-High wire, and a Data-Low wire. Obviously we know what the power wires do. The other two are the wires that communicate accross the CAN-Bus with the PCM. We're not messing with these, but this way you know what they are. :)

Now for the connection between the other versions of this mod, and this one!

The other versions of the ESP mod have you cut a wire that enters the ABS module connector. The wire that you are cutting is in fact one of the very wires that runs to the DSS module! What wire is it? Well, that's the irony..it's the positive power wire! In essence, all you've done is to interrupt the power supply to the DSS module, preventing it from having power. What does this do? Well...simple...it makes the PCM think there is a problem with the module, so it then ignores it thinking that it is malfunctioning. That means nothin but playtime! :D

Now for some pics.

First, you'll need to remove the floor console to gain access to the area you need to work in.


To remove the floor console, please use the following instructions as a guide:

Remove the chrome shifter bezel first. It has 4 tabs the go straight down from the edge of the bezel, and each tab has little ridges to help hold it in place. Place a thumb on each side of the inner rim and work it straight up. It'll pop right off.

Next, remove the semi-curved rubber tray that sits in front of the silver shifrer bezel. There are two screws there, remove those and set them aside. Next, it is easiest to remove the center bezel for the radio & a/c. To remove this, you'll use the slot just above the ashtray to get some grip. Apply a bit of pressure...enough to grip it without slipping, to the top of the inside of the slot. Kinda like you were gonna pick the dash up with that slot. You won't need to push up very hard...again, just enough to get some grip. With that grip, you'll pull the bezel towards the shifter. There are 6 tabs that you'll be releasing. Two are at the bottom corners of the bezel. Two more just at the top of the radio, on the outer edges, and the last two at the very top.

Once you've freed the bezel, carefully disconnect the wires from the back of it and set the bezel aside. Now you can move on to the ash reciever panel.

there are two clips on this panel at the very top on the outer edges. With the center bezel removed, you should have tons of room to get a firm grip on this panel to pull it out. Again, pull it towards the shifter. This panel has 3 wire sets hooked to it. (If you have the heated seats.) One for each heated seat button, and one for the cig lighter in the ashtray. You can choose whether or not to disconnect them if you wish. Either way, you'll find a screw just below the hole where the clips attatched on either side. Remember that when reassembling everything, this panel must be reinstalled FIRST after the floor console has been replaced into its proper position. If you replace the center stack bezel first, you won't be able to get this panel back in because of the cig lighter plug sticking out too far.

With these 4 screws removed, you only have the remaining 3 bolts to remove from the bottom of the bucket under the rubbery insert at the bottom. Remove those 3 bolts, and the entire floor console will be free.

To remove the console easily, put your key in the ignition and turn it to ACC. apply the parking brake firmly, and then apply the brakes. Place the car in [N] to move the shifter out of the way so allow the console to slide out easily. While you're at it, tune into your favorite radio station so you've got something to listen to. :)

Pulling the console out is pretty simple, just aim the rear vents toward the roof, so that you've got a "handle" to use on the rear of the console. With your cupholder open, use the ridge at the top of the cupholder area, where the top of the door meets the trim to grasp the console with your other hand. Easily work the console towards the rear seats, and up slightly to free it from the rear vent air passage. Slide the console back a few inches, and then lift the entire front of the console straight up. This will give you access to the cig lighter connector for the adapter in the bucket. This connector has a clip shaped like a rounded "M" that you'll need to depress to free it. Once it's released, keep the front up, and lift the back of the console and slide it back the rest of the way onto the rear seats. This will give you all the room you need to work.


Once you've completed the mod, simply reverse the entire process to put everything back together.




Once you have the floor console removed, you'll see the module bolted down to the floor, behind the shifter assembly by two bolts, with a wire harness plugged in that contains the 4 wires discussed earlier.


Here is a pic of the module taken from the driver's seat. I have already unplugged the harness here.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1574.jpg



We will be basically doing the same thing as unplugging this module, except we're doing it with a switch spliced into the positive power wire.

Here you can see the pin-side of the connector. It does has 6 pinouts, but only 4 are actually used. The only reason I can imagine for having a 6-pin connector is for future use. Potentially a different module that could be used later on that uses 6 wires instead of 4.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1575.jpg


Here you can see the 4 wires we're working with. The two we're concerned with are the purple wires with blue stripes. The negative wire is the one with the DARK BLUE stripe. We are not cutting this wire. The wire with the LIGHT BLUE stripe is the positive power wire, and the one we will be modifying.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1576.jpg



At this point, you can start your car if you want and you will see immediately that your ESP/BAS and Traction Control lamps both illuminate and stay on. This is the proper result of initiating the disable. You will also be greeted with a chime.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1577.jpg



Now lets modify the wire! We are going to cut the PURPLE wire with the LIGHT BLUE stripe, like this:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1579.jpg



Once this wire has been cut, strip a very small amount of the jacket from one side of the harness wire, and from one of the wire strands. No more than about 3/8"-1/2" should be stripped from each end. Here you will use one of the butt connectors , and the strand of wire, and splice them together. Once you have completed this, strip the other end of the splice wire (shown in red below) and crimp on one of the switch connectors.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1581.jpg



Now repeat the above step to attatch the second wire to the other harness wire. When done, you should now have two long strands that extend the length of the original snipped wire.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1582.jpg





Now you should grab your switch. It's time to test everything and make sure it all works properly. The switch I chose had a ground terminal. We won't need this terminal. If the switch you use has 3 terminals, one is a ground, and the other two will be used to allow power to pass through or not.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1583.jpg



Connect your wire ends to the terminals, like this:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1584.jpg



At this point you should reattatch the connector to the DSS module so we can test the install.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1585.jpg


Be sure the switch is in the ON position before you start the car, just for the purpose of this test. Once you have confirmed this, go ahead and start the car. Allow all of your dash lights to go out like normal. Do not touch your stock ESP Disable button, you won't need to anymore anyway. Flip the switch, and your ESP/BAS Light, and Traction Control light will both illuminate like I pictured above. You will also get a chime. If you get all of this, then your install is functioning properly!

Now you must choose a location to install the switch on the floor console. I chose to install mine inside the "bucket" where the coin holders are. I mounted it just below the slot for the quarters, and set it so that the switch in the ON position is faced towards the wall of the bucket. This will reduce the possibility of something inside the bucket from knocking the ESP off without warning.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1586.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e332/datasurge/ESP%20Mod/IMGP1589.jpg


Now you should just button everything back up, and GO HAVE SOME FUN!

Hope this was helpful to you all!!

DannyC
11-12-2006, 02:59 PM
I must have missed something since I'm new here but what's the purpose of this mod?

06SilverSteel
11-12-2006, 03:07 PM
really just do do donuts and fun stuff like that, some argue it helps 60' times and some argue otherwise. Very nice find there RTJunkie, makes me wish I hadn't already done mine up front. very discreet and effective way to do this mod.

Fondy
11-12-2006, 03:17 PM
very good write up i just might have to do this.......

HHHOGGG
11-12-2006, 08:55 PM
Nice find. Anyone interested in disabling their ESP should definitely use this method.

MAGNUM8R
11-12-2006, 09:03 PM
Is this traction control only, or is ABS effected at all???

mattready
11-19-2006, 08:02 PM
how does this compare to the "remove fuse #17"? do you get any codes other than the warning lights?

toomuchrpm
11-20-2006, 07:52 AM
Maybe it's just my car, but I tried this mod and it didn't work. I got the ESP/BAS light only (traction control light never came on). My car has a build date of 10/04. I decided to try it anyway, but the traction control STILL worked after the installation of the switch. I even had another person verify that I spliced into the right wire. Oh well... at least I can still pull good old fuse 17 to have some fun (on nice dry days)!

Giznome
11-24-2006, 03:42 AM
Great read!! After I get my headers finished up tomorrow, I might just have to go and pick up a toggle switch and go ahead with this. Great instructions, a retarded monkey could do it, thanks a bunch. This forum is great, people helping people!! Dodge/Chrysler people!!!:thumbs_u:

BrilliantBlackHemi
11-24-2006, 03:56 AM
Anyone done this on an SRT yet? I assume it works the same?

dennis808
11-25-2006, 03:03 AM
Nate,

I attempted this mod today. I'm not sure if I did this correctly but it's not working with mine. I did splice the violet and light blue wire, connected the 2 extra wires and hooked it up to the switch. My ESP/BAS light stays on even if I connected the 2 ends of the cut violet and light blue wire. Where did I mess up? Now I'm running with ESP/BAS light. Might that be a problem? Oh, would it be the kind of wire, switch and butt connectors? I'll add some pictures to show you what I used.

Thanks
-Dennis

dennis808
11-25-2006, 11:21 PM
bump

Bubba's Dragon
12-02-2006, 11:47 PM
This is an interesting mod.. hope we can get a 100% accurate shot on if this is only good for a certain build date cars.

RobAGD
12-10-2006, 03:22 AM
I would be willing to bet there is a small differnace from the 06 Chargers to 05 Magnums and 300's

-R

JonzMgnm
12-10-2006, 03:25 AM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Hemi Addict
01-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Anyone done this on an SRT yet? I assume it works the same?
Does this mod disable the traction control?

quinn
01-28-2007, 03:41 PM
Does this mod disable the traction control?
If you're asking about the SRT8 (I assume you are since you have that quoted in your post), just hold down the button longer and it will fully disable the traction control. No cutting/splicing needed.

EZCHRONIC
01-29-2007, 01:50 PM
what about a r/t, how do I do it?

Familywagon
04-01-2007, 10:32 AM
Im Gonna have to give it a try, going nuts with it fighting me!! Stupid ESP!!

Hal'sMag
04-01-2007, 01:02 PM
When I pull fuse 17, I only get the BAS ESP light and a ABS and Brake light on the left panel.

No squiggly tire light on the bottom right panel, which I get when I "partially" disable traction control with the dash button.

A 6' burnout is the end result.

FC direected me to a supporting vender http://www.noesp.com/

So I may belly up to the bar and buy the circuit board, to enable my ESP button to function like a SRT button.

Familywagon
04-06-2007, 05:10 PM
HOLY CRAP!!! Finally 100% TORQUE!! Sorry tires, but i gotta play a little bit. What an easy install, maybe 1/2 hour top. Excellent site for the instructions. Good riddance ESP and Accelerometer!! Thank you NOESP......
......I love you!!!:pepper:

noesp
04-06-2007, 11:57 PM
HOLY CRAP!!! Finally 100% TORQUE!! Sorry tires, but i gotta play a little bit. What an easy install, maybe 1/2 hour top. Excellent site for the instructions. Good riddance ESP and Accelerometer!! Thank you NOESP......
......I love you!!!:pepper:

you're welcome.

When I first hooked it up in my car, I went into an empty parking lot, did a few donuts, then went back to work with a grin from ear to ear that just wouldn't go away.

RSHugger
04-23-2007, 10:34 AM
:sad: Ok... after reading all of the info on the ESP mods I thought I would be in for a real eye opening experience. "Be careful", "better try it in an open parking lot first", "poor tires".... I was ready to see what my wife's Magnum could do. :magburno: Bought the NOESP module... great piece of equipment, well made, instructions were clear... I hate those panel clips... thought I would break them off. Install was uneventfull, all testing indicated that things were working fine. Found a nice secluded road... did a launch with ESP on and was able to get a little chirp. Tried it again with full off... Mr Squiggles was on, ESP light was on, BAS light was on, had the chime and had the relay click. Launched again, expecting to get sideways or something, and :roll: Tires did rotate a slight bit longer than with ESP on but we are talking 1 second longer type timeframe... What I have not done is compared the NOESP off to the DC ESP button off and see if I get the same results... just to satisfy my thought process. So... where is the power... I want the power... I need the power... and don't tell my wife or she won't let me drive her car anymore. The build date on this Magnum R/T is 6/06, the car has around 2k miles, I have drag raced so I know how to launch a car, I had pulled fuse 11, but other than that this is a stock Magnum.

So... where did the power go? Does the PCU have a limp mode for when it loses the accelerometer so the mod works with early builds but not late? Operator error? Thoughts?

Thanks,
Roger

Venom
11-17-2007, 05:24 PM
on my 06 300c all i do is turn the key for 3 seconds at 10 miles an hour and presto i have noesp
peace
mike

JUNIPER9803
11-23-2007, 06:00 PM
why not just do the no esp mod?

RTjunkie
04-04-2008, 03:09 AM
I have modified my original post to include a small Foreword which describes a bit about this mod versus the NoESP mod, and why one might want to choose one over the other.

This writeup is intended for 5.7L and 3.5L equipped cars, as SRT's already come equipped with functionality to completely disable their ESP system.

If anyone somehow has any doubts about the functionality of THIS mod, or the NoESP mod, then find an empty parking lot, stop, cut the tires hard left/right, and slam the gas. You'll do donuts all day long with either mod "engaged" (well, at least until the tires blow...lol). Cycle the key and NoESP will return to standard "ESP-On", or with this mod, just revert the switch back to it's other setting and restart the engine. Try the donuts again and you'll fail miserably as HAL jumps in to SAVE you from endangering the life of your rear tires! lol

Super T
07-10-2008, 10:48 AM
Bump on this mod. Any more testing or experience with this mod? If somebody has a good understanding of what is actually disabled with this mod, I'd like to chat briefly about an issue I'm having.

FloridaRT
07-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Good write up, worked for me....................

Bob

FloridaRT
07-10-2008, 02:21 PM
why not just do the no esp mod?


Because doing it this way is CHEAPER.................

Very little cost.

Bob

noesp
07-10-2008, 03:20 PM
I have modified my original post to include a small Foreword which describes a bit about this mod versus the NoESP mod, and why one might want to choose one over the other.

This writeup is intended for 5.7L and 3.5L equipped cars, as SRT's already come equipped with functionality to completely disable their ESP system.

If anyone somehow has any doubts about the functionality of THIS mod, or the NoESP mod, then find an empty parking lot, stop, cut the tires hard left/right, and slam the gas. You'll do donuts all day long with either mod "engaged" (well, at least until the tires blow...lol). Cycle the key and NoESP will return to standard "ESP-On", or with this mod, just revert the switch back to it's other setting and restart the engine. Try the donuts again and you'll fail miserably as HAL jumps in to SAVE you from endangering the life of your rear tires! lol

Thanks, RTj, for editing your post. If I hadn't seen your original post on this way back when, the NoESP mod wouldn't exist. I was simply improving upon an already wonderful mod... IMO the most important mod for fun factor!

noesp
07-10-2008, 03:22 PM
Bump on this mod. Any more testing or experience with this mod? If somebody has a good understanding of what is actually disabled with this mod, I'd like to chat briefly about an issue I'm having.

what's up? Even though you may not have the NoESP mod, and just put a switch, maybe I can help... PM me.

Dustcanblue
08-26-2008, 08:24 PM
I dismantle the console cut the wire start the car ESP &BAS light came on, put the car in gear tried it didn't work. OK so doesn't work on mine. Reassemble the wire still have ESP &BAS but this time if I hit the ESP switch I have the 3 lights on and it works the only thing is that the wire is splice back together. Could there be a blown fuse or module? I check at the end of the connector and I have power so it's not a bad connection. I just don't understand, for tonight I'll leave it alone.

Robert

Dustcanblue
08-27-2008, 06:29 AM
Good Morning

After I left last night I drove about a 1000 ft and the esp and bas light went out. Don't really understand much of what happen except that the mod did what it was intend to do for a short time and will try it again.

Robert

FloridaRT
08-27-2008, 08:36 AM
Once you cut the wire and install a switch, you just can't turn the switch off and on and get the ESP back on. You have to turn the car off, then back on to recycle the ESP module.

Maybe I can explain it better this way:

Start car up, flip switch to "off" - turning ESP off completely.
To turn ESP back on, shut car off - flip switch to "on".
Restart car, ESP should be working again.

Bob

Dustcanblue
08-28-2008, 08:27 AM
Thank you.

scoot13
11-15-2008, 03:39 AM
I just did this mod and mine actually did not work unless I wired a ground to the switch. Just a thought if someone is having a hard time. 06 magnum.

Animal451
12-18-2008, 02:02 PM
I just did my car and I love it! Works just fine in my 06 SRT8 . . .

Cenobite
12-18-2008, 06:42 PM
I followed your instructions Junkie and love the new mod.

Look where I put the flip switch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/Esproc/Flippie.jpg

Popeye's Hemi
12-19-2008, 06:14 PM
I just did my car and I love it! Works just fine in my 06 SRT8 . . .


If you have an SRT you don't need the Mod, just push and hold the ESP switch on the dash for 8-10 seconds and it's as done as if you had the NO ESP Mod. Only the RT and non SRT's would need the mod to get the same effect that the SRT's come with from the factory.

Animal451
12-21-2008, 02:46 AM
If you have an SRT you don't need the Mod, just push and hold the ESP switch on the dash for 8-10 seconds and it's as done as if you had the NO ESP Mod. Only the RT and non SRT's would need the mod to get the same effect that the SRT's come with from the factory.

No, actually the SRT8 will reduce it to 80% off after you hold it in for 5 seconds. The yaw is still in affect and if your car has any side to side movement it will still apply the brake to straighten the car. After this mod, this car will run down the street sideways if I want too . . .

I thought the same thing but after looking at a thread discussing what LSD's were available for the rear end in the SRT8 section I learned different: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=136443

The discussion turned to the ESP mods available for these cars and the fact that the SRT8 is still held back somewhat. I unplugged the accelerometer and took it out for a test drive and WOW!

InferAl
12-21-2008, 10:08 AM
Even with this mod I fell ESP a little, almost like the 80% you are saying for the SRT8

Animal451
12-21-2008, 01:54 PM
Even with this mod I fell ESP a little, almost like the 80% you are saying for the SRT8

When I was in highschool my father had a 68 camaro with a 327 and I could control my sideways pitch with the throttle input and even spin the car. The SRT8 would would always stop the sideways pitch abruptly (had to be the ESP/BAS).

When I test drove it (after unplugging it but before I put in the switch), I could drive down the road sideways controlling the car with the throttle. It was a blast! I grew up in the snow and it reminded me of driving the car on snowy roads except the SRT8 has enough hp that with cold roads (45 degrees) I could throw the back end around. There is no advantage in racing (unless you have drag radials and a LSD) or even everyday driving but it is just plain fun!
:racing:

Popeye's Hemi
12-21-2008, 08:22 PM
No, actually the SRT8 will reduce it to 80% off after you hold it in for 5 seconds. The yaw is still in affect and if your car has any side to side movement it will still apply the brake to straighten the car. After this mod, this car will run down the street sideways if I want too . . .

I thought the same thing but after looking at a thread discussing what LSD's were available for the rear end in the SRT8 section I learned different: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=136443

The discussion turned to the ESP mods available for these cars and the fact that the SRT8 is still held back somewhat. I unplugged the accelerometer and took it out for a test drive and WOW!

Animal, I stand corrected. Thanks for the update.

TINNMAN
04-10-2009, 05:02 PM
Not working on my 2005 magnum r/t (did not disable traction ctl) just bas and esp.

EXTREME
04-10-2009, 05:34 PM
Thought i'd post my ESP button/switch. It's the two on the left.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-29-09-03.jpg

I wired in an On/Off switch and a Momentary switch. That way i can either cut it off and leave it off for a weekend OR just hit it for a run or two with the momentary switch!

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-12-09-15.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-12-09-14.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-12-09-13.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-12-09-16.jpg

Little night time action

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/EXTREMELX/LED%20ESP%20Mod/3-29-09-01.jpg

EXTREME
04-10-2009, 05:35 PM
Not working on my 2005 magnum r/t (did not disable traction ctl) just bas and esp.

BAS and ESP are your traction disable lights

Paywithdeath
04-11-2009, 12:54 AM
Im gonna try this this weekend in my go mango.

TINNMAN
04-18-2009, 12:52 AM
05 magnum r/t bas esp light coms on, light wich comes on when you push the esp button stays off and will not come on even after pushing the button with the yaw power switch open, trac still fully active. Any one have any luck with this one a 2005?

Green_Manalishi
04-18-2009, 10:35 AM
05 magnum r/t bas esp light coms on, light wich comes on when you push the esp button stays off and will not come on even after pushing the button with the yaw power switch open, trac still fully active. Any one have any luck with this one a 2005?

Once you turn off ESP with this mod, it stays off until you turn off the ignition. If the switch is open at the next restart, the ESP will be back on.

SLOPONY
04-28-2009, 06:08 PM
i just did this today in my 06 R/T charger. Flip the switch, and ESP/BAS light come on, but Mr. Squiggles stays off, and the traction control IS still active, if i turn it off via factory switch and the newly installed switch, PRESTO its off and you can rip doughnuts till your hearts content.

Great MOD.

I popped out the power outlet in the ash tray and hot melt glued my new switch in there. Its totally hidden which is what i am all about.

Ultra103
04-28-2009, 11:59 PM
I did this mod on my '06 300C, I get the ESP BAS and he squiggly car icon but the car still has sideways control. This is crazy. I have tons of HP and no access!!!

I wonder if it's the momentary VS on / off switch.

Green_Manalishi
04-29-2009, 12:53 PM
Not the switch. Once disabled, it stays disabled until the next restart.
I have an on/off switch in my '06. I turn it off, then right back on after disabling. I don't want the wife driving with it off, unless she wants it off. I should have used a momentary switch.

You did splice the correct wire, right?

turbohips
06-19-2009, 03:06 PM
I need to find a radio shack and do this.

turbohips
06-22-2009, 11:32 AM
OK so I have an 2004 build and after doing the really simple RTJunkie no ESP mod I have questions.

Once I hit the switch only the ESP light comes on and not the tire marks sign. I can not get the tire mark sign to come on if I push the ESP button either.

Now if I hit the ESP button first, the tire mark sign pops up but then turns off when I flip my switch.

I'm I just screwed or does the mod actually turn everything off even though the tire marks light isn't showing up?

Dr.Omega
07-08-2009, 06:01 PM
I have an '05 Mag RT. I just did the mod as well...after starting, I hit the switch, and ESP/BAS come on... no squiggles. The squiggles appear after I hit the ESP button on the dash. With everything lit, it seems to boil the treds better... but not the "Holy Crap!" reaction I was looking for. Anyone else have experiences? I'll test this mod out some more later...

FloridaRT
07-09-2009, 06:29 PM
I have the same problem with my 05' Magnum RT, was built 04/04.

The only thing I notice is that my "Dynamic Sensor Supply" module is different than shown in the photos. The wires and harness are the same, just the module is different.

Bob

gooeytek
07-09-2009, 11:04 PM
I probably have the earliest-built Magnum here (1/6/04), and I did this mod also. It works fine if I do the following steps:

1. between 0 - 15mph, disable ESP via the switch on the dash (even a slow roll will do, as long as the wheels are turning and you dont have the brakes on). squiggle light comes on.
2. hit my momentary NOESP switch installed as per RTJunkie's writeup. BAS light comes on.
3. burn it up.

Hope this helps.